Start11 RC2 Issue Report Thread

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With the Start11 RC2 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining Start11 RC2

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and links included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that Groupy does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 RC2 Changelog

  • Tweaked quick access link popup menus to resolve an issue where they may not close on loss of focus correctly
  • Tweaked quick access link popup menus to not cause a menu close when closing one and opening another via clicking directly
  • Fixed paint issue on Win11 menu quick access links area when switching between monitors
  • Fixed appearance typo in config
  • Fixed crash introduced by some RC1 work with quick access link menus
  • Added support for quick access menus in Win10/11 style. They do not auto-expand on mouseover but require a click to open
  • Holding down shift when clicking on a quick access link that's a menu will open it as a window where possible
  • Added missing W filter option in all apps for Win10/11 style
  • Fixed issue with quick access menus not always closing on loss of focus
  • Fixed issue with Win10/11 apps list loading up icon for application exe vs shortcuts
  • Fixed issue with Win10/11 apps list not loading up multiple shortcuts to apps in some circumstances
  • Fixed issue with Win10/11 pinned items lists loading up app exe icon vs shortcut exe
  • Fixed issue with Win10/11 pinned apps not launching correct shortcut but exe instead
  • Added option to hide recent documents on Win11 menu style
  • Added option to change icon size on Win10 and Win11 menu styles
  • Added option to change tile color on Win10 style menu
  • Pressing escape when in all programs list in Win11 style menu simply goes back to the previous page now rather than closing
  • Fixed drag & drop offset issue in Win7/Modern menu styles
  • Limited Win10/11 menu size based on current screen resolution
  • Fullscreen mode for Win10/11 menus
  • Fixed Win11 menu rearranging issue where items would sometimes rearrange inconsistently especially after a lot of rearranging
  • Dragging on the Win11 menu no longer highlights the page title area
  • Fixed Win7/Modern Quick access links showing as menus will now open correctly when clicked
  • Prevented Win7/Modern quick access link menus popping up under the menu
  • Win7/Modern quick access link menus now dark mode aware
  • Fixed universal apps quick access menu potential crash issue
  • Win7/Modern quick access menus now have rounded corners when rounded menu mode is enabled
  • Fixed pinning from Pin to Start11 from explorer menus pinning items to first index in list for Win11 style menu.
  • Fixed pinning issue for Win10 menu replacing last entry in pinned list when pinned from explorer windows or search page
  • Added missing run as admin option on store apps which support it on Windows 10/11 menu (Terminal etc)
  • Internal frame rate for animations moved to 240hz
  • Fixed issue with mouse getting attached to the top of the menu when opening the menu with Start11 search disabled.
  • Fixed issue with clock and tray area missing when using custom start button on Windows 11 Dev channel builds
  • Fixed issue with custom start button left visible after disabling custom start button or making button centered on Windows 11 (believed to be Dev channel only again)
  • Fixed issue on Win11 menu where creating a new page when on a lower page number caused the page to be inserted as a group on the next page instead
  • Fixed issue on Win11 menu where deleting pages could cause a blank page to appear
  • Tweaks to button handling on Win11 when not using custom start button
  • Config UI now responds to touch input
  • Rearranging quick access shortcuts list in Win10/11 styles now saves the changes correctly
  • Now able to scroll menus using touch and drag items - to drag an item either drag sideways initially or hold down until you get the right-click indicator box and then drag the item if the list has a scrollbar, otherwise drag as usual.
  • Fixed possible crash issue when moving things on the Win10/11 grids
  • Adds support for wider groups in Win10 style
  • Fixed Win11 style to show user name as friendly name vs account name
  • Fixed issue with Win11 style losing shutdown button if you set Win7/Modern style to have a very high number of icons on display or lots of grid columns
  • Fixed quick access shortcuts showing display as menu sometimes incorrectly for Win10/11 style
  • Stopped jumplists showing for MS store and settings as blank
  • Fixed issue with being able to get multiple menu options on config appear in mouseover state
  • Added option to hide recently installed applications section in Win10/11 all apps list
  • Fixed changing icon size on Win7/modern menu requires two opens of the menu to see the change fully
  • Fixed desktop search carried out last so didn't always appear in results as quickly as wanted
  • Fixed search getting stuck in some searches
  • Fixed issue with taskbar at the top of the screen losing the mouse over thumbnails on one monitor if multiple monitors on Windows 11
  • Fixed clicking very left of the leftmost start button can open Win11 menu on Windows 11
  • Fixed explorer hang issue if replacing start button on computer with multiple monitors (3 ideally)
  • Fixed start menu open offset issue on multiple monitor setups with centered start button
  • Fixed Cortana search mode causing Start menu to close when renaming a group/anything else
  • All apps list for Win10/11 styles now also includes url files and help documents etc
  • Removed surplus MS edge link in all apps
  • Double-clicking on the style image opens the settings drop down in the config now
Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Known issues

  • There are still some scrolling issues on menus using MS precision touchpad.  Still being looked into. 
  • Windows 10 menu has disabled option for hiding apps list.  This is not currently implemented hence the control being greyed out.
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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

***Reserved***

With the release of RC3, we are closing this thread.

Thanks to all that took the time to test and provide feedback.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

W11 22000.258

Start11 0.91 - W10 Style

 

issue: Start Menu application list returns to last position after you close and re-open it

expected behavior: start menu should go back to the top

 

 

when I close the menu to this position, next time I open it, it opens to the exact same position instead of going to the top

is it a feature? meaning it was coded to behave this way or is it unintended behavior 

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Recently Installed apps still can't be hidden

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Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting zme-ul, reply 4

W11 22000.258

Start11 0.91 - W10 Style

 

issue: Start Menu application list returns to last position after you close and re-open it

expected behavior: start menu should go back to the top

 



 

when I close the menu to this position, next time I open it, it opens to the exact same position instead of going to the top

is it a feature? meaning it was coded to behave this way or is it unintended behavior 

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Recently Installed apps still can't be hidden

There are advantages to both ways.  If you are launching a few things from the list in the same folder then remembering location is useful.  That said the Win10 menu jumps to the top so we should probably copy that.

Recent installed apps should now be able to be hidden now.  Click on the box below Windows 10 style in Start11 settings and pick settings.  Then scroll to the bottom and untick Show recently added apps.  This should take effect after a short period.

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Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 5

There are advantages to both ways.  If you are launching a few things from the list in the same folder then remembering location is useful.  That said the Win10 menu jumps to the top so we should probably copy that.

Recent installed apps should now be able to be hidden now.  Click on the box below Windows 10 style in Start11 settings and pick settings.  Then scroll to the bottom and untick Show recently added apps.  This should take effect after a short period.

1: I'd like to be an option to behave like standard W10 

2: I absolutely missed the tick to remove recent apps :-"  

 

thanks

Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

I just installed RC2 and all 11 items that I had reported appear to be fixed. Great Job Stardock!

Thanks for so quickly addressing mine and others issues. If only MS would be so attentive...

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Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

I too hope to have option to make the All programs default back to the top

Also can we get option for Modern Style to not highlight recently added apps please?

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

Windows 10 style:

Option to "Show app list in start menu" is grayed out and is turned on. I'd like to turn it off.

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

Je viens d'installer la version 0.91 et l'utilise dans la version windows 10 style. Je sais que je ne ferai pas avancer le logiciel, mais je tenais à vous féliciter pour votre travail. :congrat:  Bravo!!!!!

 

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Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Slightly visual issue in the settings.



W7 style is the one that is being hovered on with the mouse, W11 style is the selected one. As you can see, the frame/border displays normally top and bottom, but is cut off at the sides.

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting JOHN30011887, reply 8

I too hope to have option to make the All programs default back to the top

Also can we get option for Modern Style to not highlight recently added apps please?

You can achieve the second one by adding a registry key.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8 Add a REG_SZ called Highlight and set it to 0.

Then sign out and in again.

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Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Mike, reply 11

Slightly visual issue in the settings.



W7 style is the one that is being hovered on with the mouse, W11 style is the selected one. As you can see, the frame/border displays normally top and bottom, but is cut off at the sides.

What scaling factor is your display set to?

Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting rj79048, reply 9

Windows 10 style:

Option to "Show app list in start menu" is grayed out and is turned on. I'd like to turn it off.

That option is not yet implemented fully hence the disabled option in settings.

You should be able to adjust that in future updates but not RC2.

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

I have W11 style selected, when I go to its settings, scroll down and then up again, the highlighted text gets distorted. When I scroll down and up again, the text displays fine again. Scroll down and up again, distorted, etc... Looks like the ink has run out or something.

Edit: cannot consistently reproduce this. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top

Windows 10 theme still does not allow groups to be easily moved. Actually, it's impossible to locate them to a new position without another group automatically filling the old space. But it's still better than the Windows 11 Start menu.

Thanks for fixing Discord not loading.

Those were my only two issues. Maybe you'll be able to fix the group reordering on the next go-round.

Reply #18 from Stardock Forums Top

W11 style, set to full screen. Taskbar set to automatically hide, top of full screen gets cut off. This is a screenshot of the very top left of the screen.

When the taskbar is set to not automatically hide, it displays normally.

W11 Pro.

Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Mike, reply 18

W11 style, set to full screen. Taskbar set to automatically hide, top of full screen gets cut off. This is a screenshot of the very top left of the screen.



When the taskbar is set to not automatically hide, it displays normally.



W11 Pro.

It is being caught out by the screen size changing after it has opened up.

Will see what we can do on that.

Reply #20 from Stardock Forums Top

Using the Windows 10 style menu, still unable to collapse or remove the empty pinned apps space.

Would it be possible to add the functionality to delete the empty page, or allow the "Pinned" right hand portion of the menu to be collapsible all the way onto the main menu like you can in Windows 10 when it's empty?

Currently I can enlarge it, and shrink it back down by dragging the edge but the smallest it will shrink to is the size shown below.

Windows 11 21H2 (OS Build: 22000.258)

Reply #21 from Stardock Forums Top

Is version 0.91 downloaded as 'Start11_setup_sd' the same as release candidate RC2? -  I don't use Object Desktop as found I use few of modules & a little confused as to the version I'm using - As I use few of the Universal Apps is there to be the possibility of either hiding them as in Start 10, or them being in there own folder in Start11>  Thanks :-)

Reply #22 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting pwtrolley, reply 21

Is version 0.91 downloaded as 'Start11_setup_sd' the same as release candidate RC2?

Yes.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #23 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello Stardock Fellas. 

 

I report an issue in windows 11, when you have the taskbar on top,  the quick access button get cut off. this do not happen when you have the taskbar on bottom. 

 

TaskBar on Top

Taskbar on Bottom

 

Thanks 

Reply #24 from Stardock Forums Top

Anyway to disable 'highlight newly installed programs' on the modern style menus? I don't see that option anywhere.

 

Also whatever you are doing differently to draw the start menu seems to have fixed this issue I had way back when.

https://forums.stardock.com/500173/page/1/#3785516

Intentional or not, thanks for resolving it!

Reply #25 from Stardock Forums Top

Just have to say - am (so far !) LOVING RC2 !  For a start, I can have a custom windows icon and still manage to have the clock, system tray, etc. all working perfectly.  Other tweaks seem to be all good.

Great job, guys !!!

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