I don't know about anything else but that Human Commander is just ugly as sin. Immediately makes me think I'm playing a game designed for 5 year olds. I don't know what it is. I've never studied art in any sort of a technical or professional sense. But just as a consumer I can say that the human commander gives me the impression that this is a lower quality game. The other aliens seem OK for the most part. I can live with them. But the human commander just looks like a cotdamn Disney princess. 

^ This. But it doesn't matter, art is set in stone, Frogboy has stated that we are to reserve critique for things we still CAN change. Done deal.

Happy with the SC:O styling. I agree that the styling (both visual and audio) needs to be approachable to the younger generations. It would help if we had an idea of the order in which aliens will be encountered as there needs to be a fairly even distribution of the alien types throughout the game. SC2 did this well with the aliens surrounding Sol - Ilwrath, Vux, Yehat, Sylandro Drones, Orz, Spathi, Pkunk, Melnorme. Most of these are on the 'lighter' side of the races. SC2 became far more serious with aliens as the storyline unfolded and the player was far more invested. It would have played very differently if the Druuge and Utwig were close at the start and the Spathi and Pkunk were on the other side of the sector.

I feel the uniform styling for the Commander is about right. Remember Earth doesn't have a Space Naval fleet yet, so having a military uniform doesn't make sense. Your ship will be the first ship capable of reliable travel within the solar system, let alone interstellar travel. Having it closer to a jumpsuit is more realistic to the tech, political, and social structures that should be in place on Earth at the time - feels closer to Star Trek Enterprise uniform styling. What could be interesting is if the uniform styling changes with game progression, representing the militarisation of Earth's fleet.

In SCO, you will first meet the Tywom and  then the Scryve.

The Tywom, of course, have been watching humans for decades and really admire our culture.

The Scryve have a massive but faltering empire who are destroying any civilizations they believe are a threat.  They intend to wipe us out but have not yet triangulated our home location by the start of the game.

Is it even better?   

That neck though...reminds me of this...

"I'll swallow your soul, I'll swallow your soul."

Weren't they sending a fleet to attack Earth, that got destroyed, a while before the game's story starts or would it have been the fleet's job to find Earth?

I think the commander looks better with the black uniform.

The dark uniform isn't anything official, just something I knocked up in Photoshop. On discord there's also one where I gave her the black pants and yellow/gold top of James T. Kirk . I was just playing, really (although I tend to agree that IMO the dark grey/black looks better than the cheery blue uniform of the original).

Quoting bleybourne, reply 33

The dark uniform isn't anything official, just something I knocked up in Photoshop. On discord there's also one where I gave her the black pants and yellow/gold top of James T. Kirk . I was just playing, really (although I tend to agree that IMO the dark grey/black looks better than the cheery blue uniform of the original).

I was aware it is not official, thanks for making it.

We are going to revisit her neck. But it's non-trivial.

They don't know where Earth is.  They only know the sector.  One of our jobs is to communicate how big space really is.  Space is big.

I've been lobbying for years that games need to quit talking in terms of galaxies.  

Our signals have only made it out roughly 100 light years so far.  Which is nothing.

The Scryve know we are orbiting one of around 40 stars which is pretty specific (and scary).

We have two things going for us:

1. The Scryve don't know where we are precisely yet.

2. The Scryve 5th fleet (that is responsible for this particular star cluster) was destroyed by an unknown enemy which buys us time.

Our part of the galaxy is a pretty rough place.  Luckily, we are hanging out on an outer arm (and not even a main one).

BTW, next time someone asks why we haven't detected aliens, you can show them that image and smack them.

Anyone who doesn't understand that probably thinks screen wrap is confusing.  

On a serious note..glad you are looking at the commander's neck.  It might be non-trivial but leaving it would be a poor decision.

Quoting Hunam_, reply 30

 

Is it even better?   

Yes from the standpoint of the coloration changes is an improvement, but honestly still bad. The face, the posture, the body dimensions...I absolutely can't take her seriously. 

I do like her better in the photoshop above.  Many of my complaints are still true, but the uniform change and removal of the rogue hair helps her look more serious. 

Here she is with a short neck. I may have made it slightly too short

(although it does highlight just how  long and giraffe-like her neck is in the original)

Ugh. It really just doesn't help enough. That art style is a poor choice.

I should clarify: I don't have a problem with the art style. I don't love love it, but it's fine. I just did the various photoshops because people were asking for them and I'm a bit bored at work right now.

Although if I'm being honest I do like the dark grey uniform look over the cheerful blue original, but the original is fine too. The only thing I actually do dislike is the white highlights/bangs in her hair, and that's a totally minor point that's not even worth discussing IMO.

There were several prototypes for a commander. That one won internally as I understand. I wonder if there were any 3D model attempts at any other.

Just goes to show how important it is to give feedback on your preferences before it’s way...way...way too late.

there are two elements. Art style and character design.

I like the art style. I haven’t liked some of the character designs so I’ve been asking for changes which started around 9 months ago. Hence the new menkmack, measured, and other races.

The commander will eventually get a neck tweak but otherwise, she’s complete.

REKT.   

Pretty sure I'm on record as not liking the design of the commander right from the get go.  The snowball started when you started swinging the axe at other races.

uhhh. Also for the record, here's my post from May........

https://forums.starcontrol.com/477437/page/1/#3635435

Seems like there might have still been time................ at that point.

^ What Brad basically said in the voice chat is that it doesn't matter what we talk about here as long as it's not an absolute majority in an uproar about something unacceptable. And to be honest not everyone was discussing the Commandress back then. Even though she was changed from the concept pics that were posted in the vault, which by the way make her look less attractive, but more fitting IMO.

Also, everything we see is WIP and some of us feel like there's no sense in pointing out "obvious" missteps/imperfections, so that adds to "no feedback" problem. Coupled with no explicit feedback request from Stardock on specific things, we get our final "Ledditgo" Commandress. And I'm gonna call her that from now on until we get her real name.

^Sing with me now...... I can't hold it back anymore.