Political Discussion Online II

It's been 12 years since there was any decent political discussion here.  Was fun & educational while it lasted but all the people I enjoyed debating (and enjoyed watching debate) evaporated after W's re-election. 

The ones I didn't enjoy debating left, too, though, so there's that.   

If Ann Coulter doesn't have the right to make a speech then you don't have the right to peaceful protest.

 Its fairly interesting to see how our views have changed over that time. I remember having some different views than I do today... its not that I changed my beliefs to a large degree, I just that I think some things and world events worked out poorly, and its fairly easy to do that kind of thing given how hindsight is always 20/20. So I can generally change my mind if I think a politician of either party shoveled a steaming load of horse crap on us. Most of George W Bush's administration  is one of those things that changed. At first I thought his ideas were good ones, especially with the wars, but as time passed, I came to believe that it was botched severely by bureaucrats who sat in air conditioned offices telling sweaty, dirty soldiers how to "send Afghan girls to school," become painters and electricians when they were actually trained as warriors, not Captain Americas seeking to win hearts and minds of people who hate our guts. The reality of the Afghan and Iraq war should have been much different. Destroy the enemy with as much violence on the ground as possible, declare victory, and go home. Bush was a disaster not only in the wars, but Justice Roberts was a total piece of crap. Obamacare should actually be called "Robertscare after Justice Roberts found a way to make the law work... yeah, he actually said that. We got Alito thank god, but that was only after a brutal backlash against Bush's decision to appoint his own liberal attorney Harriet Myers, a person Harry Reid couldn't say enough kind things about. Anyhow... enough ranting for now

Maybe you should hold off on those speeches for pay until the tax rates go down.

Is there anything more popular than free stuff?

We could move all the democrats to the border they make a great wall.

 

We need a big beautiful wall... and we have to get MS 13 the hell out of our country.

Keith Olbermann, Chuck E. Cheese Todd and Chuck E. Cheese Schumer

are getting together for a game of miniature golf.

Don't forget your spit wads.

 

A brief rebuttal:

Bill Kristol describes himself.

I don't believe leaks and anonymous sources.

They might as well be lies and delusions.

What happened to evidence,proof and people testifying on the record?

 

We are all being drained by the swamp.

The media is being played by their own wishful thinking and their sources.

 

It's all about narrative-building now.  Facts are simply too boring.

I think Dimmowits are using the tactic of keeping something out there the way Republicans kept Benghazi alive even though there was no real smoking gun. They must feel that they were damaged by the cloud even though no one was impeached or driven from office. So, they went and built a cloud of their own that Trump is now somehow an agent of the Russian Government and those of us who voted for Trump are now communists and comrades. Its gonna take some time for me to get used to being called comrade by liberals who have espoused communist and socialist beliefs for as long as I can remember.

Was ISIS blowing up historic monuments?

They believe the rapture is nigh.  That they are about to force Trump from office.  Based on no evidence of wrongdoing whatsoever.

I wonder if the media is aware of how it is damaging itself. If this blows up in their faces, they won't be able to a seat at a Communist Party rally. I'm also concerned by the lack of investigation into the Democrats involvement with the Russians. Seems $500k speaking fee's, uranium deals, and foundation donation aren't getting any love. Not a peep from the media. If we are going to get to the bottom of it, let's look at all of it. The media is way too influential with partisan agendas, and no accountability.

It's already blown up in their faces, they just can't see, smell or feel it - the intellectual propafol they've been mainlining is too powerful.

I just don't believe they or their faithful see it. For years now I comment a lot on Yahoo, who wouldn't post a positive article on Trump if he cured cancer, and the numbers that fail to grasp it is staggering.

The TRCCT

Trump Russia Collusion Conspiracy Theory.

Its not surprising to me that large numbers of Yahoo users are motivated against Trump... consider that in California, 4 million people voted against Trump and all Yahoo can muster up is a thousand or so seething leftists who approve of Trump bashing comments, most of them live in Los Angeles, or ISIS controlled regions of the Mid East.

I am a quote-unquote "liberal" and I'm pretty nice. One of the reasons you don't have people testifying and speaking on the record is some who did that were prosecuted and jailed during Obama's 2 terms.

"Despite the constant negative press covfefe"

Coffee not beer.

covfefe

coffee

This explanation works for me.

You are free to come up with your own explanation.

 

Who do you think of when you look at this picture?

Why are people in a bad mood?

Because for a large segment of the population the economy

has been in the toilet since 2008.

Costs and taxes are going up and up but pay checks are not keeping up.

People can't find the jobs they need.

People who are working don't know for how long.

Climate change is just a magicians distraction to take our attention

away from the real danger that is artificial intelligence.

 

It's a money grab. When has anyone of any political persuasion ever seen the number of politicians, that never care about anything that wasn't making them money, so involved in anything since  Climate Change? I'll tell you. It's the perfect crime. They can suck billions of dollars of taxpayer money over years without ever producing any evidence of any scheme working. Who is going to be around in 100 years to hold them to the .2% of 1 degree change in temperature? They smell blood in the water, and the liberal/progressive lemmings are jumping in feet first. The climate changed before man, and will after man is gone. Yes, let's do try and keep the planet clean. That's sound thinking, but CO2? A gas of life for plants on earth (no plants, then no animals). We aren't even close to the highest levels of CO2 on this planet has seen.

But tornados, hurricanes, and wildfires their killing more and more each year, right? Wrong, yes more people are affected because there are more people. The 1970 US census have the US population at 203,392,031, that's 120+ million less people than today. So where are these people at? Fly over country where the tornado's are. The southern and east coasts where hurricanes are, and dryer areas of California where wildfires occur.

You better bet that if solar ever becomes dominate as a power source, there will be a sun tax. They try to get you in by saying how you can sell excess power back to the utilities (some places are all ready blocking this) an that is true, now. They will find some way to get you to pay a monthly fee for it. Remember when internet was $19 a month (or less Juno), sure it was dial-up broad band was $25. Today I pay $70 for cable internet, and those companies are making money hand over fist. They could charge $25 and still make money. The Electric companies won't let you off the hook either n matter what natural resource is used.

If liberals want to feel good about themselves, give up your car and electrical devices, and plant a tree. It will do much more than giving money to the government.

Nicaragua, Syria, and the USA.....

 

 

Strange bedfellows if ever there were ones.

Could the liberals have Stockholm syndrome?

Would this explain their views on terrorists?