So you have to spend more than $600.00 and it has to come from the Microsoft Store. I'll pass. 

Both my laptops are 17" screens and better than what Microsoft is offering. I run 8.1 on one and the other has already been upgraded to Windows 10. Pass.

They all are laptops, despite what was quoted from the source article...What laptop or pc were you planning to get...if you bother to check the links I supplied, you'd see a wide range of devices.

And, from that list price, deduct $200. That's a bad deal? Just how?

I think you'll find you can't...but I'd be happy to see where you can get one of the ones on the Qualifying devices link for $400...

Still, good thing we got Doc to inform us about new things. -This might suit some people, who knows

-Thanx Seth

Microsoft must be getting desperate that Windows 10 market share didn't remotely reach their projections even despite their bullying tactics, i.e.; preventing users from easily opting out of upgrading to Windows 10 by repeatedly surfacing kb3035583 on Windows Update even though users have selected to uninstall and hide it, and this week getting to the point of putting a *pre-selected* (by mistake, according to them yeah, right, we believe you) 'Windows 10 Upgrade' hidden in the 'Optional Updates' queue.

This is just evil! How many users were forced to upgrade to Windows 10 because of this without wanting to?!

Microsoft has clearly shown what they are trying to do by now, first with Windows 8 + Metro/Windows RT and now with this 'Windows 10 for free' stunt they want to shove down our throats whether we like it or not.

This is not about a unified OS experience, except where that is a by-product of what MS is really trying to accomplish here, but about trapping users into a 'walled garden' so MS can do as it pleases. With Windows 8 and Metro MS tried to change Windows into a closed OS, a 'walled garden', one where developers could only sell their wares through the Microsoft store (with MS profiting 30% from the sale of every application without having done anything to deserve it), and with MS having the final say on what was approved and not. But because that required turning Windows into non-Windows (Windows RT) it failed.

So now they are trying a different approach with Windows 10, but make no mistake, their intention is still the same (i.e.; evil). Once everyone is trapped in Windows 10, they can, for instance, change Windows into a 'service' which you then have to pay for annually or lose access to your PC.

In my opinion the lunatics have taken over the asylum! This is pure madness.

kb3035583 comes up on my machine on every update and it already has a check on it.  I have to uncheck it.  I figure at 68 I'll stick with W7 as they first have to unsupport vista before they get to W7.  Guess then I'll have to decide on what to do but by then I'll be way into my 70's.

While I find that the dl W10 thing might or might not be intentional (statistics/marketing, etc.), my purpose here was not to encourage W10 sales, but to help folks to whom the $200 might make a real difference in choosing to invest in a new machine...the W10 involuntary dl thing isn't to my liking, and although motives can be found for doing it 'on purpose', it could be a glitch...after all, we're talking about a Windows Update thing, and that can indeed be problematic on several levels.

Doc don't stop posting things you feel may be of interest to others. I agree with Ross the your post are appreciated even if one doesn't interest or effect me. I just read it and let it go. Doesn't mean I didn't get some knowledge from it.

I don't use win 10 and have no intentions of using it. Some like it and some don't. You should know by now anything posted about win 10 always goes into a debate. Find more post you think may be helpful go and make a thread. If it runs wild let it go and don't worry about it.

Some of the comments here are something else.

Windows 10 market share is actually doing quite well, even despite the nonsense that it's "spying" on you, stealing your personal data and somehow going to lock you out of your PC.

Microsoft has retails store and are offering a promotion to get rid of your device and get a new one. Is it a great deal? I don't know, but it might help someone get a new device. If not, no big deal. Just about every big electronics retail store does some type trade-in promos. 

Nonsense? The notion that the NSA was spying on normal people was also deemed complete nonsense and the realm of tin foil monkeys... right until Edward Snowden blew the whistle, of course. I don't know, I was never one for conspiracy theories, but I do see the danger here.

Some are just too blind to see or prefer not to notice.

The tools are already there, together with users who seem to be letting a private company transfer *undisclosed* data from their own *Personal* Computers in a completely unregulated fashion. Personal as those being computers that have their pictures, home made movies, documents, browsing history, love letters, divorce papers, etc, etc... If you don't see a problem with that, I don't know... Eventually someone is going to fall to the temptation of using that same data.

Microsoft is also already pushing ads into their Start Menu, disguised as 'suggestions', of course.

Could you imagine just a couple of years ago that such a think would actually happen? Microsoft's flagship OS becoming adware?! Microsoft itself has already admitted that it is going to sell your data to 3rd parties. Not if, but when, if it's not happening already.

As for locking people out of their PC, come on, it's obvious what Microsoft is aiming for here. They want to sell Windows as a service, as software rental, so the money keeps flowing in every month or year or whatever. And what happens if you don't pay the rent? I don't know how it is in your part of the world, but in mine you get evicted out of the house you're living in.

That's why Windows 10 is, according to Microsoft itself, the last Windows version ever. There will be no Windows 11, just a continuous stream of upgrades. And you think those will be free too, that Microsoft will just turn their back on the revenue they made selling new Windows versions? I don't think anybody is that naive. 

As for market share, according to my own data, Windows 10 is now on almost 30% of all Windows computers, with 47% of users still on Windows 7 and about 18% on Windows 8.x. Not too bad... until you remember Microsoft is actually giving Windows 10 away for 'free' at the click of a button. And even though the percentage is very slowly climbing, it kind of stalled once it reached 25% in the first couple of months.

In my humble opinion Windows 10 is going the way of the biggest 'ransomware' in history. You don't pay...you don't play. In what way is that fair to people who pay good money for a machine that they won't be able to use because the rent wasn't paid? If I buy a computer that machine and all the pre-installed software belongs to me, no one else. I can keep what I want and 86 the rest (bloatware). No one has the right to dictate what I can and cannot do with something that belongs to me. MS is going the way of Uncle Sam, i.e., legalized extortion.

Ok...rant over...again.