I believe in no FX 8 core humbug whatsoever..... both my AMD rigs perform admirably and I've never had power consumption or overheating issues with either of them...

.... but then you must be an Intel fanboi who hates it when people like and opt for AMD instead.

Okay, so you like Intel, we get that, and so do I, but I also like the AMD processors I've used as well.  So what if Intel's CPUs have been faster than AMD's thus far, though for a price, and not everyone is prepared to pay the extra for a little more speed.  At the end of the day, it boils down to peoples needs, what they like best and what they can afford, and yes, you're entitled to your opinion/preferences, but to continually mock/ridicule the opposition benefits no-one and just fans a flame war.

As for Intel vs AMD, I hope humble pie is on the menu when AMD releases a great and truly competitive CPU series at a great pricepoint.

That's pretty much what I've been saying, that AMD is an important cog in the scheme of things... both in pushing Intel to lift its game and by helping to moderate pricing.  Without AMD releasing cost effective CPUs. just try imagine what Intel might charge in a monopoly market?????  And while AMD has struggled to keep pace with Intel, performance-wise, much less rival it, I believe the change in leadership and engineering staff, with the new 14nm architecture will produce better than past results.

This is probably because the 8 physical cores(yes, there are 8 physical cores, it's not hyper-threading) on the AMD chips have some shared resources that result in lost performance.  It's supposed to be about 20%, hyper-threading on the other hand has a very minor performance gain over just the individual cores.

The problem with calling people fanboi's over not being impressed with the FX 8 core is that it truly is a terrible CPU.  Vishera's perform like 4 year older Intel's with half the cores, running at 75% of the clock speed.

The FX-9590 is as hot as you can get one, the thing burns 220 watts, an i7 4770k gives almost identical performance for multi-threaded applications, and 50% more for single threads, at 84 watts.  The physical reality is that they run extremely hot for their performance.  If you keep your system for more than a couple years, the cost benefit of buying an AMD would be depleted by their power consumption even with only light use, and who needs an 8 core for light use?  If you really work it, you could blow a hundred bucks a year in extra electricity.

The humbug is that the first line of AMD FX that were thrown on the market claimed to be a true "8 core CPU" that was just after intel released the first generation of i7. Did it had 8 cores or was it just a clever marketing act…
Google it and you will know.

The power consumption is lower on Intel.
Meaning that it will save you some money over the year... why is that interesting for me? Well as I stated my PC runs 24/7 and not only 2-4 Hours a day
And this means by the end of the year i will be able to buy another middle class GFX card or a new SSD from the saved money only by using an Intel CPU.
Is that worth paying 50 USD more for the brand?

If making smart decisions is making me an Intel Fanboi - I’m gladly accepting the title J

I'm just hoping AMD produces something faster than Jafo's setup. Then he will have no choice but to abandon Intel. 

Considering Jafo's setup will be surpassed by Skylake, which comes in the third quarter of this year, before AMD's next generation rolls out in 2016, it's a bit of a foregone conclusion that his system wont be the top of the food chain next year regardless of whether Zen does better or not, unless Intel decides to stick with 4 cores as the max.

People are trashing previous processors, and expressing doubt about their ability to deliver, not trashing future processors.  Maybe Zen will be the best thing since sliced bread, but aside from the economy market they haven't accomplished squat since Intel's Pentium 4 flopped over going with sdram instead of rdram and being unable to actually utilize it's bandwidth capabilities and knock the K8 architecture off it's pedestal.

My old 900mhz Athlon was still operational when my mother switched to a laptop, K7 and K8 are the glory days of AMD, it would be nice to have them back, but their current offerings have been... depressing?  Even the K8 wasn't really the performance beast it looked to be, the problem on the Intel side was that sdram was an absolute dog, even after it went to a double data rate, and the architecture had been based around rdram's superior bandwidth capabilities.  I was running a dual 2.4ghz Xeon workstation, with 512 megs of dual channel 533mhz rdram, and that p4 architecture screamed with the proper bandwidth available.  Of course, the memory chips set me back 500 bucks, even if they did bring twice the bandwidth of their ddr competition, and were still smoking it even when DDR2 released two years later.

AMD has potential to unseat the king of the hill, they've done it in the past, but that doesn't mean we should expect them to just because they say they'll be able to compete for the enthusiast market again.  They're not even claiming it, competing with and surpassing are two different circumstances.  Anyone expecting Zen to be faster than Skylake is setting themselves up for disappointment, because it wont be unless AMD is suicidal and doesn't want to advertise a superior product that will, unfortunately, release after it's competition does.

@ Xavier Mace,

I've had a rough few days healthwise and I'm not up for debating the issue in dept with you.  I neither have the strength or desire.

Thing is, I've already conceded that Intel has had the better of it in recent years.

I've also conceded that AMD did itself no favours during that period.... and was often its own worst enemy.

Point is, that's done and dusted now.  Is there a need to keep rehashing it over and over?

The other point: AMD has a new leadership and a new team of engineers working on 10nm/a new architecture, thus throwing out the old and bringing in a new era.

So, in reality, nobody but AMD knows what Zen will be capable of.  In other words, nobody should be mouthing off using past examples that no longer apply.

Okay, think what you will.  I know the 2 machines, and the FX 8350 iin some ways is snappier than the i7 4790K.  That may have something to do with the Gigabyte GA Z87X UD5H board the 4790K is currently on.  It was the best I could manage at the time, but it should get a performance boost next week when I upgrade to a Z97 chipped board.  BTW, the FX 8350 is on an ASUS 990FX Crosshair V Formula-Z ... just take my word for it,  it fechen flies.

That's my whole point, AMD's past performances are not necessarily anything to go on, not with new management and new engineers working on a whole new die and architecture.  Okay, sometimes the new boss is the same as the old boss, but indications are that a major shakeup has gone through AMD, beginning with the top echelon and going right through those with hands-on roles in development.  If true, those fools who kept rehashing old architectures and old ideas are gone and AMD, realising its past mistakes, has hired better, more efficient people to get the job done.  If/when I can relocate the article I read regarding the new AMD regime I'll repost it here... it is a most interesting read and gives rise to hope and optimism for AMD.

Were they just rehashing the Bulldozer architecture I'd have to agree with you, Zen would be bottlenecked from word go... and you don't win the race by putting new shoes on an old horse.  It's why I keep saying let's wait and see, because we have no way of knowing what Zen will actually be capable of.  It may not be released until 1Q 2016, some months after Intel's Skylake, but one would think that AMD's thinking right now would be more about putting out the best CPU it can in 2016, not on what Intel has done recently and if they can beat it.

Oh, and thanks for your kind words, I do appreciate them.  And yes,  I am feeling better than I was, but the issue remains and I need to get it sorted if I am to enjoy a better quality of life.  I am seeing some new [to me] medicos, however, so my hopes are higher and my attitude [toward it] is more positive.