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kona0197
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IDE vs SATA

May 31, 2014 3:35:09 AM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

I have a sneaky suspicion that my hard drive is going south. The only other drive I have is a 200 GB IDE hard drive. I was curious if I would see much of a speed drop. Been looking it up, but figured you all would know.

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kona0197
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Reply #1 May 31, 2014 4:02:15 AM
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Don't know what your drive is, but it will be the drive, not the interface, that costs you performance.  ATA 133 is 133MB/s bandwidth, far beyond what that 200GB drive will likely do.

 

The top end modern disk drives will pull 200MB/s max, sustained around 160MB/s.  Odds are your IDE drive you've got is more in the 70MB/s range though, 200 is pretty small to be current tech.  Your failed drive was probably south of the 133MB threshold, but it's cache would have put a great deal more spring in it's step for small write operations.

 

If you're falling off the SSD bus though, your performance loss will be cataclysmic. 

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Reply #2 May 31, 2014 5:17:37 AM
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Yeah, you're going to notice a performance hit going from SATA to IDE; however, if you have an IDE to SATA adapter you can reduce that hit to some extent.  Do not expect a huge difference, though.

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Reply #3 May 31, 2014 12:13:12 PM
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I mostly just cruise the internet, run really old games, and use Microsoft office all day. Would i see much of a slow down?

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Reply #4 May 31, 2014 1:30:15 PM
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Kona I've gone back and forth between SATA and IDE a couple of times and honestly, it's not a big deal.

Sure a smooth-running SATA will be a little smoother than a smooth-running IDE, mainly for huge files such as DVD or DVD temp files, and of course a little bit up front for boot.  A smooth-running IDE is however a clear improvement over a sputtering SATA - sometimes drives are out there sputtering for a while before actually failing, and that will suck your machine down.  As psycoak said, a lot of it just depends on the individual drives.

I'm on an IDE root drive right now after being on SATA and it doesn't bother me a bit.  Now I have to tell you I don't stare at performance numbers, seriously that stuff can make a person crazier, I just want things to work well without throwing piles of cash at them.

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Reply #5 May 31, 2014 2:06:48 PM
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I just had a thought that really drives home my opinion of it:

Last time my root drive died I had the option of re-loading to a SATA or to an IDE, both at no cost.  I re-loaded to the IDE simply because it was easier and faster because of formatting and file-shuffling.  That pretty much tells you what I think about it. 

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Reply #6 May 31, 2014 2:31:44 PM
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SATA shmatta.

Say the word and I'll send you my muthaboard:

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Reply #7 May 31, 2014 2:36:32 PM
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^  

My motherboard's just like that, only I have the deluxe version with the little hamster. 

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Reply #8 May 31, 2014 2:42:57 PM
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Great, DaveRI. You show off!

You belong to the 1% so you just gotta brag. 

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Reply #9 May 31, 2014 2:46:58 PM
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Yep, that's me, just rollin' in the hamsters. 

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Reply #10 May 31, 2014 3:50:36 PM
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I got yas both beat. Mine has three rubber bands, ultra deluxe.

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Reply #11 May 31, 2014 5:10:50 PM
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Good choice Uvah, don't have to feed the rubber bands.  I've gotta feed that darned hamster, and he's a chubby little sh*t too. 

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Reply #12 May 31, 2014 6:29:09 PM
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Finally!

My drone photographed DaveRI's computer!

(sans hamster droppings)

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Reply #13 May 31, 2014 7:21:46 PM
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Now that's a neat system Doc! 

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Reply #14 May 31, 2014 7:30:19 PM
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 Nice pic.

Caught the little guy doing his usual I see - thinking about lunch.

Good job getting the drone past my air defenses too - my buzzards must have been napping again.

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Reply #15 May 31, 2014 8:34:04 PM
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Quoting DaveRI,
reply 14
Good job getting the drone past my air defenses too - my buzzards must have been napping again.

Buzzards, you say? Hmmm...

 

Oh well...

How was your dinner, DaveRI? 

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Reply #16 June 1, 2014 1:14:01 AM
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Ah, so that's where the ol' buzzard went.  Knew he wouldn't just go AWOL.  I'll bet he was a little stringy, hope you doused him in some BBQ sauce.

Cool drone    I want one that I can buzz around and zap hornets.

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Reply #17 June 1, 2014 3:02:43 AM
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Quoting kona0197,
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I mostly just cruise the internet, run really old games, and use Microsoft office all day. Would i see much of a slow down?

Probably not a big one.  Your machine might boot a little slower and you may notice some slow down while handling large files ... copy, move, etc, but if you are just net surfing and playing a few old games I doubt it'll matter too much. 

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Reply #18 June 1, 2014 12:34:16 PM
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I know this is silly of me, but I'd think a guy who repairs computers would know this simple stuff by heart.

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Reply #19 June 1, 2014 12:57:03 PM
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I think a certain someone might chime in at this point with a ....... " BAZINGA ".....hehe

 

 

 

 

On topic:

@ kona

 

By now your google/bing searches will have told you more than the responses in this thread, besides which why is your question even relevant to your situation in the first place?  Don't you suspect your main drive of failing?  Isn't this replacement the only other drive you have?  So swap the drives and you'll get the answer to your own question with the benefit of having some additional knowledge for when you provide your services to others.

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Reply #20 June 1, 2014 1:06:45 PM
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Quoting RedneckDude,
reply 18

I know this is silly of me, but I'd think a guy who repairs computers would know this simple stuff by heart.

Hey, what do you want from a guy who bases his diagnostics on a .......

sneaky suspicion
..............

A real tech would use a Ouija Board.

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Reply #21 June 1, 2014 3:22:15 PM
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Yeah, forget I asked. You all used to be nice about such things.

Jafo or others mods can lock this thread now.

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Reply #22 June 1, 2014 4:39:22 PM
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Quoting kona0197,
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Yeah, forget I asked. You all used to be nice about such things.

 

It has nothing to do with being nice, but everything to do with the fact that you are a 'computer tech' who by your own admission is advertising his services to others.  That being the case, you should indeed not be having to ask such a question and if you do you should absolutely expect the reaction you've received from myself and some others.

 

I certainly hope my dentist is not asking for help/opinions on forums prior to any of the procedures I pay him to perform. 

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Reply #23 June 1, 2014 4:55:31 PM
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Yeah, I'm a computer tech. However I have never had two systems sitting side by side, one with IDE and the other with SATA to measure performance. Some here have done that, or something similar. I was hoping to hear from those people.

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Reply #24 June 1, 2014 4:55:40 PM
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Oh, come on Kona, have some fun. We're all friends here. 

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Reply #25 June 1, 2014 5:20:25 PM
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People tell me to search Google for the answers. I would rather get first hand experience from the people I trust. Is that so wrong?

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