You mean as in 'unplug from the matrix' ?  

<raises clutched shiny new windows phone over his head>

Never......from my cold fingers I say........from my cold fingers..........

WAY to dependent on Microsoft. NOT a good thing. Letting anyone handle your data in a "cloud" is poor judgement. Trust no one.

Yet the Start menu and the Taskbar are far faster.

Phoon is ignored as usual.

Still wearing that shiny tinfoil hat eh kona?  Suits you.....hehe

....and you would know this because you're using Win8 daily..........oh wait........

Folks......what all this boils down to is at the end of the day when all is said and done, each of us as individuals, will use what OS, software and programs that satisfy our needs.  A lot of us will go on using what we currently have and save some $, while others will upgrade.  It's a choice that in most cases is available to the user.  I do understand that in a work environment that choice usually belongs to someone other than yourself.  

moshi and all others who hate win8 even tho they don't use it (kona, you have no say in ANYTHING since you've never used ANYTHING), when i say i find myself in 'metro' more often, i mean i use the start screen more than the start menu given to me by start8. i've downloaded VERY FEW apps from the app store. 99% of my apps were installed the old fashioned way. btw, wiz, my win8 os cost more then $40. i renewed my technet sub to get 8 and office 2013, among other apps and os's. anyway, i find the start screen easier to navigate once i customized it to my likings versus the standard start menu on the desktop. kona, i also customize my desktop start menu and have since win95. i don't leave apps and folders spread haphazardly arranged on the start menu so don't try the argument of nobody feels the need to rearrange the start menu.

my win8 experience boils down to this: when the preview was released, i installed it on an extra platter drive and test drove it for a few days. i HATED it! it was too different. i swore i'd never use it. when office 2013 was made available on technet, i renewed my sub so i could get it. since win8 pro was there also, i decided to try the final version. i again installed it on the extra platter drive and played with it for a couple of weeks or more to give it a chance to grow on me. i admit i bought and installed start8. after 2 or 3 weeks i installed win8 on my ssd drive and it's been my daily driver ever since. even tho start8 is installed, i seldom use the start menu. i gave 8 a chance and decided i like it. end of story. if others don't like it, that's fine but at least speak from a position of ACTUALLY USING it for more than 10 minutes or what OTHERS have told you.

i went to frys this morning with a 78 year old lady to help her pick out a laptop. she saw the win8 tablets and fell in love with them. she ended up getting a $900 acer tablet. it's to bad they didn't have the surface there. i think she would've liked it too but she's very happy with the acer i showed her how to use skydrive and she loves how she can now view pics of her grandkids who live in oregon whenever her son uploads them. so, if a lady of that age who had been using xp for years and years can adjust to 8 that quickly and see advantages in it, ........ let's put it this way: she bought another one for her son to pick up out west.

Microsoft made a mistake with 8. Any OS that causes me to seek out 3rd party applications to do away with all the "innovations" must be a fail. The sooner they get to creating an OS as useful as XP and 7 while creating compelling reasons to switch the better off everyone will be.

Ah but I have used Windows 8. And more than just once. 

I don't. I let Windows fill in the blanks of the most used apps and everything else just gets sorted by name. I don't skin anything nor do I use any skinning apps.

Well, no offense intended, but why are you here then?

This is a skinning site. Customization.

I'm not sure......but I don't think attempting to browse for pron in your local best buy counts as actually using the OS. 

Interesting......because about 20 minutes before you posted this............you posted:

...in the Lumia 920 is the best phone evah!  thread.

I'd ask you to make up your mind kona........but it appears that tinfoil hat you're wearing is impervious to 'suggestion' of any kind........ 

I used to skin. I still have skins available for for download. I have friends here. That's why I am here. Why are you here?

@Monk: Are you mental? I USED to use skinning apps. I USED to skin my computer. It's been a few years now since I quit. Are you incapable of putting 2 and 2 together? Must I always explain it to you?

Yes......I am mental....mental about calling trolls out!   It is my absolute favourite past time!  

The day you post something other than rhetoric is the day you can start thinking about explaining something to me.  Needless to say this thread seems to have run it's course.....see you in the next one......or maybe not....

I am NOT a troll. Ask those that have known me longer than you have. You just don't understand.

Because I skin, and I use skinning products. Customization apps. And I have friends.

I was curious, no offense intended.

No worries, none taken. Perhaps you can explain who kona is to Monk. Maybe then he might understand. 

Hey people, could we please stick to the topic and put this unpleasant aspect aside.

And kona, this is an observation, not criticism, but you tend to draw negative attention to yourself with offhand, contradictory remarks, and when that rubs people up the wrong way, you're unfortunately going to cop some flak.  By all means, ask questions and join the conversation, but please try to choose your thoughts and words more carefully... because it'd make for a much better discussion for all involved.

Okay?

Whatever.

Kona chooses thoughts OK enough....just doesn't entertain them for long...;)

Now, we can ALL stop beating up on 'the other guy'...cos remember...my beating stick is bigger.

As for the OP....it can be summed up thus.

MS has a new OS.  It's annoyingly different.

Definitely not everyone likes it.....including the OP.

Some people like it...but then some people also like lobotomies.....

Grinding teeth isn't going to alter reality.

....and...

The topic died a death several pages ago......back when the count was in single figures...;)

i don't particularly care for lobotomies.

When I was a kid I cried when Jack Nicholson was lobotomized in that Cuckoos nest movie.

When one looks at the world in general lobotomies seem to be quite often performed. 

kona, I did not make the suggestion to critisise or put you down, but to hopefully make your WC experience that bit more pleasant by changing how you interact in the forums.  I mean, it doesn't matter that much to me, I'm not the one they're picking on, but I would prefer it that topical discussions remained pretty much on course and that there was no unpleasantness between members.  Okay?

I'm a little late to the party, but with Microsoft offering the Win8 Pro upgrade at $40.00, I just can't pass it up.  I'm currently running 1 Win7 machine, 1 Vista 64, 1 Vista 32 and 3 XP Pros at the house.  I like all of the offerings so far, so why not give the next one a try?

Anyway, I downloaded the upgrade last night, took the iso option and burned it to DVD this morning.  The Vista 64 machine will get the upgrade. 

Thanks to everyone in this thread for the back and forth on it.  I initially thought I'd wait until Win9 came out, but much of this conversation and others have made me want to try it out for myself.  I admit to skimming past a lot of the thread to get at useful information, but who doesn't?  And at $40.00, if it's a dud, I can go back to the Vista 64 image and the injuries will heal quickly. 

Good luck One tip: if you want to put the "my computer" icon on desktop, rightclick desktop, chose personalize, then click the 'change desktop icons' option in upper left corner. I wasted lots of time trying to figure out how to do that when i first installed w8