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Who the hell signed off Windows 8 at Microsoft??

Who the hell signed off Windows 8 at Microsoft??

Apart from bloody Balmer the economist running a tech company...

 

I want to make one thing clear.. Windows 7 is the best operating system to have ever been released by Microsoft..

Windows 8 is the worst piece of shit in the whole history of microsoft and i can probably guess theres some kind of espionage thing going on where they convert all user hate mail about the new ui to positive reviews.

 

Anyway --i think this is the best for everyone because now we can all buy macs. Awesome! :grin:

 

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Reply #376 Top

I have Windows 8 Pro on my desktop computer and one of my laptops. I consider myself having the best of both worlds (Windows 8 and Windows 7). There is a learning curve, but the efforts are rewarded (imho). I have been using Windows since Windows 95. As always, when a new version of Windows arrives some third party programs will get left behind, along with device drivers and the sort. I also have software that I paid a lot for that I cannot use on Windows 8. However, I really like Windows 8.

I have installed several Stardock Products and they work fine. I also have several legacy programs that work on Windows 8 Pro.

For those who are using Windows 8, I have a few tweak tips (if you don't know about them already).

1.) Windows 8 God Mode Tile script can be found here:

http://techpp.com/2011/11/22/how-to-enable-god-mode-on-windows-8/

2.) Windows 8 by default does not "shut down" when you click shut down, but rather is hibernated. This is done to enhance a faster boot. The faster boot option can be turned on or off in control panel power options, or manually overrode. Full explanation can be found here:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/force-full-shutdown-fully-reinitialize-windows-8

You can also hold down the shift key while clicking on shut down, and keep the shift key down until the computer shuts completely off.

3.) Little known utilities included in Windows 8 can be found here:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2018309/six-awesome-built-in-windows-utilities-no-one-knows-about.html

4.) Tame those tiles:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/create-manage-groups-start-screen-app-tiles-windows-8

Reply #377 Top

Quoting winstar4, reply 376

2.) Windows 8 by default does not "shut down" when you click shut down, but rather is hibernated. This is done to enhance a faster boot. The faster boot option can be turned on or off in control panel power options, or manually overrode. Full explanation can be found here:

It isn't full hibernation.  It shuts off all applications and hibernates the OS only. 

No idea why you'd want to disable that.

Reply #378 Top

Quoting Savyg, reply 377
No idea why you'd want to disable that.

 

Reasons needed for a "hard shutdown" were listed on the link. I would not want to disable it permanently either.

Reply #379 Top

Quoting moshi, reply 372
of course, but the "big" changes are the touch-optimized Metro "dashboard", the Metro apps, the store and the removal of Aero and the start menu from the legacy desktop. and the loudest MS fans here do not want MS to continue this path and do not even believe MS will do so.

You say it's funny loudest fans don't like big features.

I say someone not liking big features probably isn't much of a "loudest fan" to begin with.

Reply #380 Top

Quoting stax77, reply 379

Quoting moshi, reply 372of course, but the "big" changes are the touch-optimized Metro "dashboard", the Metro apps, the store and the removal of Aero and the start menu from the legacy desktop. and the loudest MS fans here do not want MS to continue this path and do not even believe MS will do so.

You say it's funny loudest fans don't like big features.

I say someone not liking big features probably isn't much of a "loudest fan" to begin with.

 

agreed. this is why i wrote "amusing" in the post you responded previously.

Reply #381 Top

I run a business that depends on a Windows Server and about 15 desktops, most of the latter still running XP, a few W7.  We have a very experienced contract tech support company whose owner has advised us in the strongest terms possible to avoid Win8 at all costs.

Just doin' the Joe Friday thing.  YMMV.

Reply #382 Top

Quoting Daiwa, reply 382
I run a business that depends on a Windows Server and about 15 desktops, most of the latter still running XP, a few W7.  We have a very experienced contract tech support company whose owner has advised us in the strongest terms possible to avoid Win8 at all costs.

Just doin' the Joe Friday thing.  YMMV.

 

See that's just it though......I myself run a 'very experienced contract tech support company' who says exactly the opposite of 'your guy'.   My company has already moved serveral mid-size clients from older obsolete solutions into the Win8 market (incl. the use of desktops, tablets and the new windows phones) at their locations with astounding results.  The clients couldn't be happier and the changes to their infrastructure have actually saved them money in terms of on-going support costs (yes I know that means less money for me) and have really cut down on 'wasted' employee-time, along with bringing new ways (sometimes better ways) of doing old things into their businesses.

It is interesting that the same coin can have such very different sides.   ;)

 

Reply #383 Top

Quoting the_Monk, reply 382
It is interesting that the same coin can have such very different sides.

Agreed.  I suspect the devil is in the details of what business the client is in and its particular application requirements.  Not to mention the value judgment involved in 'obsolete'.

Reply #384 Top

 

Agreed.

One could say my own personal definition of 'obsolete' moves along with generally accepted 'end-of-life' practices and guidelines so as to not leave clients high and dry someday with tech and procedures that 'used to work just fine' until they didn't/don't, only to find out this day that the 'solution' for same may not longer be available/applicable. 

On a personal level, I am the sort of 'tech' who routinely advises clients on practices/procedures which tend to net less money for me but might end up placing the client in a better position with regards to their tech.  I guess I've always felt no amount of advertising can beat some good old solid word of mouth...... ;)

Reply #385 Top

Was just looking at the market share stats and its a bleak picture for Win8. More people are currently using Linux. Thats abysmal.

Reply #387 Top

Quoting Anthony, reply 386
Was just looking at the market share stats and its a bleak picture for Win8. More people are currently using Linux. Thats abysmal.

People don't see a big need to change if their current system works well enough for them(which win 7 usually does). However given the fact most new computers being sold today come with win 8 preinstalled, it's spread is inevitable.

Reply #388 Top

Quoting stax77, reply 387
However given the fact most new computers being sold today come with win 8 preinstalled, it's spread is inevitable.

...but patently slow...;)

Reply #389 Top

Quoting winstar4, reply 378
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/force-full-shutdown-fully-reinitialize-windows-8

The answer is, in a way – Yes! But Windows 8, will reinitialize itself automatically whenever needed and whenever a system or hardware change is effected - and whenever it is required.

Force Windows 8 to shutdown fully

But there may be times where you may want to perform a complete shutdown manually. For instance, if you have added or changed some hardware, you may want to force a full shutdown.

Is that even supposed to make sense?  It will do it automatically in that instance, yet they recommend you do it yourself?

Why? 

Reply #390 Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 387
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems 

Yes....looks like Win8 might be as significant/important to the World's OS usage as.....

....Linux.

To rephrase the OP

....who the hell cares that win8 was signed off?....

The Christmas sales haven't even factored in yet.  Very doubtful those numbers will be the same next month.

Plus the DoD deal just now...proving that all those people who said corporations will never go for it are idiots.

Reply #391 Top

Quoting Savyg, reply 390

Plus the DoD deal just now...proving that all those people who said corporations will never go for it are idiots.

Yeah, big 'corporation' the DoD. Also known for it's business acumen and the need to pinch every penny tot urn a profit. Also known for their 20.000$ hammers. How to spend your money wisely is their motto  :rofl: :rofl:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reply #392 Top

Quoting the_Monk, reply 384
tech and procedures that 'used to work just fine' until they didn't/don't, only to find out this day that the 'solution' for same may not longer be available/applicable.

I hesitate to quote this and will not be specific about our circumstances, but...

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Nope, not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent. ;)

Reply #393 Top

Quoting petrossa, reply 392
Quoting Savyg, reply 390
Yeah, big 'corporation' the DoD. Also known for it's business acumen and the need to pinch every penny tot urn a profit. Also known for their 20.000$ hammers. How to spend your money wisely is their motto   

...and needs the most secure and usable options available.

Look at the FBI.  How much money have they thrown away trying several times to develop a custom internal system for everything?  And it never works out.  Whee.

Reply #394 Top

Quoting Savyg, reply 393
...and needs the most secure and usable options available.

that's why your soldiers have to drive those Humvee deathtraps instead of German Dingos  X|

 

a government agency is not a corporation. they have to update their XP machines as support for these is running out next year. and Microsoft offered Windows 8 cheaper than Windows 7.

Reply #395 Top

Quoting moshi, reply 395
a government agency is not a corporation.

Technically true but they receive money to do a job, just like corporations.

Reply #396 Top

Quoting stax77, reply 387
People don't see a big need to change if their current system works well enough for them(which win 7 usually does). However given the fact most new computers being sold today come with win 8 preinstalled, it's spread is inevitable.

I don't know about that. I have people asking me to remove Windows 8 on new machines and install Windows 7 or Linux.

Reply #397 Top

The fun thing to see is what happens when XP support is dropped.  That might trigger a whole load of upgrades and I don't think 9 will be available yet at that point.

Reply #398 Top

Quoting Savyg, reply 395

Quoting moshi, reply 395a government agency is not a corporation.

Technically true but they receive money to do a job, just like corporations.

 

seriously?

 

in general corporations get their money on the market.

government on the other hand gets it's money by force (taxation).

 

in general corporations spend their money to invest and make profit.

government agencies on the other hand have to make sure to spend all the money they received in order to justify the need for equal or more money in the next budget.

 

your analogy only works for ultra-orthodox-communist societies.

Reply #399 Top

Quoting Savyg, reply 397
The fun thing to see is what happens when XP support is dropped.  That might trigger a whole load of upgrades and I don't think 9 will be available yet at that point.

definitely.

has nothing to do with the quality of Windows 8 though. 

Reply #400 Top

Quoting moshi, reply 400
definitely.

has nothing to do with the quality of Windows 8 though. 

Anyone still on XP obviously doesn't care about quality.

Hell, a good chunk of them probably only care that it's harder to pirate the newer OSes.