I have already made some new tweaks and I see that I really need to go back and look at resource costs for weapons and armor because it is way too much for 100 or 300 men. Will be doing that tomorrow and I will put up a new version with the changes I have already made.

I have also made units for the different factions already but I just quickly made them in the unit design for each faction. I can share them but they aren't anything special and I didn't take any real time with names or anything but it should definitely make the factions better.

I will most likely put up another version today as I made some fixes that needed to be made and I will put back in wages and training times for units if I can find the balance I am looking for.

I am also going to use a different host server that is not mediafire.

It is really annoying me that they tied Production and wages for units together. I can't understand the logic there, it makes it very difficult to edit because I have to be mindful of both and have to constantly check how values are changed because of it. Much easier to eliminate wages and just make gold harder to get, any thoughts?

Okay, I uploaded the mod again, those of you who got that other version, download this version and overwrite it. This is much better than that version. Brings back wages and training times but the wages are a little bleh but gold will be less.

Also, I included a units folder which has units you can add into C:\Users\BlackRain\Documents\My Games\FallenEnchantress\Units

By the way, if anyone wants to try this and likes Seans very aggressive monsters, all you need to do is add the coregoodiehuts from his mod to my stuff and that will put that in.

Just want to give some tips on how to play with this mod in case you are a little lost. 

A big focus on the early to mid game is going to be on your capital. You are not going to be able to grow your additional settlements quickly but once you get a well and maybe a growth spell on it, they will grow a little. You are definitely going to need a town in order to grow your other cities further. So consider that when you are settling. Although you can make your capital a town, it is equally good to make your capital a fortress or conclave depending because you might want to have one of those as your first city to get early benefits that those give and a second settlement could be a town, although it will take some time to grow it.

Even though Pioneers use up 25 pop, when you settle a new city they start with 5 pop. Imagine the other 20 are defenders and 5 are builders heh. Your city wont level up until 500 pop so it may take some time but that depends on other factors as well.

Early groups of 5 men are not going to be all that strong. They are really just going to be support for your heroes who are going to do the vast amount of dmg early game. Spells are extremely effective against groups (might need to be toned down). Warriors will do a good amount of damage as well. 

One thing I have to think how I will resolve, if it needs resolving, is HP regen for units. 100 and 300 man units have tons of HP and with hp regen with stationed troops, it probably wont be enough. I need to consider what to do about this, or maybe leave it as is, not sure.

I am thinking of taking on the task of integrating stormworld into this. Need to find out from Heaven exactly what would need to be done.

There is a problem with the tactical regeneration spell right now but not with the strategic one. The only thing I did was add overpower to it so maybe that is somehow interfering with it. I will have to test and see.

I hope to get some feedback soon so I can see what needs to be altered or changed.

For this kind of re-design of the base game, you'll have to go through the XML and see what it does. Since Stormworld was built for an un-modded game with the same balance, I have a whole lot of things balanced after that.

Making it work with Stormworld would be a huge undertaking, I'm not sure why you would want to do that at this point of development in your mod.

Well, it was a consideration. I didn't even look into it yet and wasn't sure how difficult it would be. 

My main concern was getting your units and buildings and such into the game. The balancing part might not be as difficult as you think but again I haven't even looked into it yet. I am actually playing with my mod right now to see how it is playing out and I am liking it so far.

I guess my thinking is that I really like your different races heh. 

Just a little info on what my game is like right now. I am on the third year, 25 months and 2 weeks in. That means 102 turns in and I have 3 cities. My capital is approaching 3000 people and about to be lvl 3. My two other towns are still level 1 but starting to pick up, now both are a little over 300 population. Once they reach 500, they will upgrade to lvl 2. This is a nice size civilization for after 2 years of developing in my opinion. Army is not big yet but that is because I have focused on building up the civilization. 

I feel that resources for units is just about right, but haven't gotten into the upper echelon yet and hopefully I will find some resource nodes soon (metal and crystal heh)

Magic is very important, Sovereigns call and my fire magic is very useful heh.

I am considering not having slaves cost population (they can be considered non citizens)

Need feedback on Damage, is dmg too low or too high, both physical and spell dmg. Dmg from heroes on units and monsters, dmg from units on monsters and units on other units, especially dmg on smaller groups vs larger groups. 

I am playing an XXL map and haven't even met another faction yet so it might take a while. Have dense monsters on so lots of monsters. I may need to play another game and if I am on an xxl map not use dense monsters because it may be slowing down the game.

I'll say this, if/when you try to intergrate Stormworld, I'll be one happy camper!  I love Stormworld and I can't see myself playing without it but your mod sounds so amazing that I want to play it as well.  It's like having to pick between cake and pie... you want both, but can only have one 

Well, if I do decide to integrate stormworld, it isn't going to be an easy task I think. It will take considerable time I am sure. 

I could also make a version with just vanilla settings and put in stormworld but then I would have to maintain two versions and that might be too much.

Hah, the XXL map I am playing on is just too big for only 8 factions. I haven't even found another civ yet. I just cheated and hit ctrl-u to see where they were and they are pretty far away. Also, since I have dense monsters on the world is ridiculously populated with monsters hah. I think I may need to start over on maybe a large or just xl map and maybe add another faction or two and with less monsters.

I added a few screenshots. The first 3 show the units at 20 soldiers. When you have several units side by side it looks cool in my opinion. 

The fourth picture shows the empire view and you can see the large population of over 10,000 at the top and you can see the weeks and months, 2 weeks and 43 months. That means just a few months from 4 years. 10,000 people in 4 years is a pretty good development for one country rising up from a post apocalyptic world I think. 

One of the problems I am running into is the larger groups being able to regenerate their health. 100 and 300 man groups are large and have a lot of HP. The current system of regenerating health is too low for these groups. I created two healing spells for armies in the life tree but this doesn't solve regenerating outside of battle. Not sure how to solve it yet without making it extremely easy to regen as in 200 hp a turn.

Funny, I always thought the vanilla health regeneration was rather odd. hope you find a solution, or you could put in a free "regeneration" enchant on each unit like amarrians racial trait, that heals them.

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

That would only work while in battle though. I am not sure that it can work on the strategic map. Yeah, you can do a regen spell or trait but it will be too small of a number or too large. What I want to do is have it regen by a percentage. I have made two spells which heal by a percentage but have not been successful so far at getting a regen spell to heal by a percentage per turn. Even if it does work in battle, that doesn't mean it will work in the strategic view, meaning not in battle.

Hmmm, you can't use calc in coreabilities. I am trying to see how I could tie an ability to a spell but it be on the world map and not in battle. If I were to tie a regen spell that regens by percentage to an ability but I need to have it somehow cast it on the world map. Is that even possible>

I could just make a healing spell that all sovereigns can cast to heal their units and give it a high priority but I wonder how effective the AI will use it on their own soldiers.

I am going to add 3 new healing spells and give them high priority for the AI. There will be 2 tactical healing spells, one which gives 25% health to a unit and another which gives 50% health. These spells will cost 45 and 80 mana respectively. The third spell is a strategic healing spell and will give 25% health to a unit for 20 mana. This is low cost because large units, 100 and 300 can't regen in cities effectively and so you will need to cost it on these units a couple of times. 

I am also increasing unit dmg a little bit. Units will do more dmg and will also do a little more dmg to units larger then them. I hope to get some feedback soon on what people think. Also, any errors with descriptions and such, please let me know.

Consider which impact this have to life -> death magic balance.

I know its the only way you found, but just had to say, consider it

Another idea is to grant a small health bonus generation to most traits, or just health generation traits.

(Just spewing out ideas as they come to mind, you pick or wreck the good and bads).

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

Well, these spells can be cast by any sovereign. They are not limited to life or death and gain no bonuses for those shards. They do a clean percentage. I could give them "life" and "Death" style names for immersion purposes if you like, let me know. It is the only way I can think of right now but it does work for what it needs to do, at least for the player. I am of course hoping the AI will use it also. Otherwise you just have to let units die heh or disband them. 

I could go through all the traits and give them small regen bonuses, but a group of 300 men has over 4000 hp. A 20 man group has like 80 or something. The difficulty in balancing it is that anything meaningful to a 100 or 300 man group would be instant heal for a 5 or 20 man group. With design traits it wont affect heroes at least. Maybe people won't mind 5 and 20 man groups being fully healed every turn.

Also, I have been playing a new game with my changes to dmg and so far it is working out better than the previous version so I will probably update to the next version once I play a little more.

Following sounds interesting.

Well if you like Sean's Affliction mod, there are many things similar but there are also a lot of changes to different dynamics. I personally feel it is a good blend. I am still playing and testing but so far it is a lot of fun. Since I am playing on a very big map, it will take time to really get into conflicts with other empires but hopefully soon. Interactions with monsters has been good though. Might need to tone down XP gain a little, not sure yet. I personally love to level up so I don't like it to take too long heh. I will put up a new version soon though because I made some important changes.

I am uploading version 1.2 today. I have made the following changes:

-- Decreased damage done by physical and spell attacks to larger groups by smaller groups

-- Increased overall attack by groups, larger groups will do a little more damage

-- Created 5 new spells related to armies, descriptions below:

                  Spring of Life -- Life 2 Tactical spell -> Heals 25% of a groups health for 45 mana

                  Greater Spring of Life -- Life 3 Tactical spell -> Heals 50% of a groups health for 80 mana

                  Life Transference -- Death 2 Tactical spell -> Heals 25% of a groups health at the cost of 10% of the casters health for 30 mana

                  Greater Life Transference -- Death 3 Tactical spell ->Heals 50% of a groups health at the cost of 15% of the casters health for 50 mana

                  Rejuvenation --- Can be cast by any Sovereign, Strategic spell, no limit per turn -> Heals 25% of a groups health for 20 mana (despite low

mana cost, you will have to use this a lot so it can get expensive)

-- Decreased Faction Prestige that Sovereigns give from 5 to 2 per level

This version will play much better than previous versions and must be installed over the old files. You must also start a new game for changes to take effect.

I hope those spells satisfy you kongdej, I added both life, death and neutral spells heh.