Nice, can you now please also fix the issue of various graphical effects such as warp tunnels, and weapon effects disappearing later on in long games? This has plagued Sins since it's inception and it's disappointing that it's still not been addressed.

Having half the graphical and particle effects missing really diminishes the game and makes me less likely to come back and finish a save game.

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Quoting JohnJames, reply 46This is a time when Devs need to ignore the suggestion made by others to limit superweapons.  

Superweapons are individually weak...other than kosturas, the tactical significance of one superweapon isn't very high, and late game basically becomes a superweapon spamfest...

I'd rather see superweapons that truly were super where one weapon had a huge tactical significance, and buffing superweapons to that degree would need to be coupled with some sort of limit...

Imagine a novalith that instantly destroys a planet (bypassing auxilary gov.), or a deliverance engine effect that lasts for 30 minutes, or a kostura shot that destroys structures (save superweapons) instantly...you couldn't make superweapons that powerful unless there was a limit...

Anyway, I'm really glad that the limit is likely to be moddable...


Quoting GoaFan77, reply 48I don't know, but thank the [noun] that they did it as constraints...

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At a limit of 2 or 4 the super weapons are not so super.  They are talking about to just limiting the number without any changes.

Remember Dark Armada?  Was nerf to death.  Have not seen anyone use it in years.  With a limit of 2 or 4 the supers weapons wont be that super.  

Your suggestions on the super weapons are game breakers. Ability to bypass aux gov with tec loyalist getting noas at level 6 is bad news

In the next update superweapons will be limited to 2 per player.[/quote]   BOOOOO

if the super weapons get a big buff then yeah it would be better but leaving them as is would make them useless minus the vasari super

Regarding superweapons: Hate hard game limits, just adjust the price to make them more scarce, for the wimps.

Do they mean TEC Rebels for the mercenaries? 

I'm not defending SD's implementation of superweapons...I'm stating that I'd rather have a limit (pick a number, I don't care) that allows for more powerful, meaningful weapons instead of the current situation....

That is more a problem with one loyalist technology than a problem with the Novalith...additionally, you are completely omitting the possibility of concurrent changes (a limit on superweapons could be coupled with a major buff and a major cost increase)...

In any case, I don't see what the problem is here...they are implementing a moddable limit that you can increase to whatever number you please...you don't want superweapons to be limited?  Then set the number to 9000...SD is adding more options to the game, and the people who don't want to use this option don't have to... 

The problem with increasing the price is that it won't really affect a cheating AI, and the superweapon spam is most problematic in those SP games....

The problem with Novaliths right now is that for the TEC loyalist they have been lifted out of their former place in the tech tree. They are tech 6 military with no prerequisites so they can rush to them, while the tech rebels need to research 7 things in missile tech before reaching it and the Advent is similar. I say put the loyalists Novalith research back somewhere in missiles so it cant be rushed too like now, then add a superweapons counter to game options 0-2-4-6-unlimited.

 I actually would second that one and agree. It should be back in with the missiles as a tech 7 research or at the least a branch down from the missiles in the 6 category to make it more difficult to acquire.  The limit selection is also a great idea if it were a per star option.

The 1 change I would love to see on the novalith (and all super weapons like it) would be it is limited to a system based weapon; meaning it can't attack anything outside the star system. So no suddenly getting spammed by 24 novaliths from 12 different stars systems!  There is no way to defend from them, even IF you have a fully raised planetary shield, they can't hold out that kind of fire power...  2 or 3 in 1 star system is enough to do heavy damage to a fully raised planetary shield planet.

*Gone... What do you mean gone? It's been totally blown away! Destroyed, by the Empire.*

Agreed, could we get at least 3 ? 

I've always wished for this...at some point, there was this constraint:

WithinSolarSystem

I'm not sure though if it actually works....

i like them shooting across systems it makes the game harder

This is awesome that it has been suggested to not be hard-coded. Where multiple super weapons (above 4) is nice is in very large maps ...

As suggested above,

Limiting super weapons to 2 or 4 basically means TEC loyalist gets massive nerf.

Tec loyalist are turtle race with titan that is incapable to do even minor damage to defended position even with support fleet. That means Loyalists have to have something that gives them offensive edge. As far as I see it novaliths are their only attack option.  

With limiting them here they need boost somewhere else.  

As much as I kind of stopped playing against TEC Loyalist Vicious AI just because they build super weapons 10-15 minutes into the game I do not agree they should be limited. There should be sort of time delay before you can start researching super weapons or start building them. 30 minutes in the game is late enough for players to take care of their defences and not to late for TEC loyalists to have impact in the game

TEC loyalists aren't powerful enough with the best economy in the game, cheap starbases, double starbases and a Titan that is better than either Advent offering? The very last thing TEC needs is a buff. Particularly when Advent have nothing that compares with the Novalith or even a way to mitigate a TEC player being able to easily kill half a dozen of their planets every couple of minutes. How stupid is it that the best Novalith counter is exclusive to the faction WITH the Novalith?

was there another update?

I'm new to Steam, and I'm trying to figure out how I get the update. Does Steam handle that automatically?

Given the upcoming novalith constraints, I would request that autocast be turned off by default for its firing ability.  TEC Loyalist players will need to be more strategic about that first shot if they are going to rush them.  

It seems that the new novalith strategy for the loyalists may need be to a) turtle b) get the novalith early , and c) follow up your shots with an invasion fleet.  The shots won't necessarily have to be at border worlds, but they will need to count.

Would it be possible to scale the maximum allowed super-weapons based on map size?  2 (or 4) on a small map is very different from a large.  

As for these Advent and other recent updates, I really like them and look forward to trying them out.  I'm really glad the new Advent techs are being lowered so the 2 factions can be more distinct.  RoF and Reanimation at levels 1 and 2, holy crap.  Protection of the Unity, damn.  I think Advent Rebels will be my favorite faction after all (that loyalist coronata though, hmm).

Yes, it should.  In your games library, right click Sins, go to properties, and then updates and under Automatic Updates, make sure the drop-down says "Always Keep this game up to date". 

Yeah, I checked it, and it was already on that setting. Guess I'll try rebooting my system and see what happens. Thanks.

only 2?? b b but i liked super weapon spam.... ... ...  

How about this,

1 Adjustible limit IE 2,3,5,unlimited (This will be a per system limit)

2 For Tec loyalist put novalith back into the missile tree as a branch just move it up the tree so it is quicker to get to.

3 Limit super weapons to firing in their home system but add a tech to allow them to fire cross system. (This tech should be for late game and in defference to its truly super status it should be at the end of the missile tree since it is a prepulsion technoligy after all and require 9 military labs)

On a side note about the cross system firing nothing pisses me off more in the auto ai than going to the trouble of establising a pressence on a remote system, putting up novaliths and haveing them fire all the way back at my home system or some other system I am not even looking at yet. Not to mention colinizing a recently enemy planet only to have it go up in smoke two or three minutes later due to a shot that was fired when the planet was enemy, I hate micromanaging the things.

The nerf weakens the whole theme of the tec loyalists entrenchment strategy considerably. Will this benefit the single player playing vs the AI? Yes and No. 

Will it benefit multiplayer? No difference

What i want to know Yarlen is how the delieverence engine is of any use compared to a transcencia starbase with culture modules?

It was never harldly used and has no use in the game as a culture super weapon. Limiting the number to 2 super-weapons further solidifies my statement. Make the negative culture at -7 for each shot then it picks a different target. 

Please fix the fail whit the TEC research Labs the image of the bottom centre are exchanged, if you select the military lab appear the image of the civic lab and if you select the civic one appear the military. This happen in diplomacy 1.34 too.

All what Loyalist has is defence orientated. They have no strong attack options. Ogrows are but with most titans having aoe attack they are double edged sword because they hog fleet supply and they die fast. Their titan cannot kill capital ship not even talking about star base.... 

Advent:

• Rebels have best titan in the game so far IMO. 2 pasive abilities and AOE ability which with lvl 6 titan or even more with lvl 8 can get spammed continuously.
• Loyalist although didn't play a lot with them but weapon cool down increase and speed decrease do look potent options especially in big fleet clashes

Repulse which with a bit of micro can trap high priority enemy ships and split enemy fleets. All the synergies. Mass disorient on sb combined with a bit of repulse and meteor control ..... Insta shield and am regeneration.....  Starfish although not really viable in skilled MP games very good against ai....   

I do use advent super weapons but only in single player games though. They are very easy to defend against if you play against human opponent....