Frustration was inevitable, not failure. That came from amateurishness and from the determination to see him fail... which is unforgivable.

Despite the fact he Obungled quite a bit, M. McConnell's stated aim to make him fail and the total 'no' certainly helped his inability to get things done.

As a citizen you know it takes 60 votes to pass a bill in the Senate. Was it really just a coincidence or more of a conspiracy that the other party voted uniformly 'no' and Joe Lieberman the ultimate piece of self interested slime.

At any rate, it's my opinion that they all suck and that the people need to throw the zeroes out - all of them and start from scratch with them having a healthy respect and fear of us.

Me? I'm voting for Stephen Harper.

Seth, it strikes me that when the GOP says no, that it is perceived they are somehow .. 'the party of no'

In my estimation, they are anything but.. The way I see it, you say no, when you disagree with the law, policy, spending etc.

If turning this country into a culture of dependency would have been the end result, yeah, I'm damn glad.. they said no.

If Obama wanted to 'get things done'.... he should have put forth bills with far more bipartisan support.

and lets face it, he had the golden ticket for 2 solid years, while the GOP could do nothing... and here we are.. broke, unemployed, and hungry.

Time for a real change... and it's coming.

You know it wasn't that long ago that the Republicans gained control of the White House, the Senate, and the House.  I remember thinking to myself "Well, one way or another, something will probably happen."  And it did, and we didn't seem to like it.  Then the House flipped to the Democrats.  Then the White House flipped to the Democrats.  Well we don't seem to like that either.

All of this has been within the last decade, a short time in a country's history.  One group may say "Obama's had his chance" and another group can easily say "The Republicans had their chance, an even better one at that with full control."  I'm not sure that I've really got a point other than politically our memories seem to be surprisingly short.  If nothing else remember that while these people are telling you what they think you want to hear.

Well, Dave, ur pretty much right on that.... However, I suppose, the way I think about it is, this is a different world, a different time, different people vying for office.

I suppose the optimist in me believes that, like I said, someone special, on a new day, will make a huge change.

Its not about one party versus the other, its about who, inside that party, can and does.. lead.

You can't have him.

No, John. It was quite deliberate and the motivation? Well, believe as you will but the sting of defeat certainly had a good deal to do with it. Human nature and the determination to show their base that they would remain strong, as well. There may have been other motives, but let that rest.

There was no effort to go to a "culture of dependency" but that is indeed a disgusting result of the polarization of the population and 'appeal'/power base of each party... another thing which must change if there is to be any progress.

The numbers, John. The numbers. "he had the golden ticket for 2 solid years, while the GOP could do nothing" (except say no) and among the 60 were Dixiecrats...remember? Let's not rewrite history. I mentioned the numbers before because of the relevancy to this point exactly. At least the Democrats showed more diversity and less 'discipline'. That has always been true and more reassuring than 'lockstep'.

And let's forget compromise. That is heresy. Unfortunately it's the only way to conduct a Democracy.

"and here we are.. broke, unemployed, and hungry". The blame for that spreads fully through our society. Not just Wall St., and not just Bush or Clinton; but the people who were irresponsible and includes the public (selling the value of their homes for vacations, speculation, toys and nonsense) as well as deregulation and approving investment and credit instruments as well as mortgages which were faulty.

Recovery will have to come from manufacturing and export. That will take time, and Obama said so from the get go. He inhereted several major catastrophes and while I wish he could have done better, I don't think he shirked... he could have tried harder for the Public Option and that really would have driven the cost of health care and insurance down. It's clear who opposed that with untruths and the motives behind the scare tactics and shouting representatives down. So, now pay the price...

As to who will win and why? I have seen very little evidence of clear, critical thought in the public during my 44 years of adult life. I doubt it will start now.

Who's asking. How I love that man. A truly morally upright leader. In every sense of the word. I hope Canada treasures him. He deserves it.

Well, I'm not going to hazard a prediction yet... but.. It won't be Barack Obama... that I will predict.

We all need to look forward, not backwards, there's enough blame to go around, lets just hope whoever is in office.. is moral, capable, and willing.

now see, that's you listening to talk radio/FOX news. There'll be only two people running and the opposition has squat to offer.

John, haven't you learned by now that the hard core Obamanites just cannot be converted to reasonable thought. LOL.

Don't blame him. He's nothing more than an empty suit that cannot hold a reasonable conversation without a telepropmter. Hell He didn't even write his own book.

The real power lies far behind the lines that we as the general public will never see. Don't know when it became that way or if it was designed that way but NOBama has made it much easier to see.

And he didn't graduate Summa Cum Laude from Harvard Law either. Yeah... real stupid.

I absolutely agree.

Let's hope that politics change. Another 4 years like this and I'd say scrap it and start over. The right way.

Perhaps not. Mitt's looking not bad. Perry? I'm on my way anywhere.

Ok Doc, I'll bite. WTF are you saying here...

At this point I'd vote for the guy in Georgia with the chopstick factory.  He seems to be able to evaluate his surroundings, conceptualize a plan of action, and execute it.

lol... its SO not... strikes me as quite peculiar that folks will always blame the messengers, always assume that normal people like myself are incapable of making rational decisions, predictions, based on the entirety of our knowledge, not just what one network has to say.

I don't need Fox to tell me Obama is toast... it's just.. obvious.. to anyone with a pulse.

Well, I still find comfort in the thought that if I can get ONE person to see the light, I've replaced the vote.. I don't have.

Much like Herman Cain has done his whole life. and He's also from Georgia 

Bingo! and we have a winner! the current administration is a product of George Soros.

I meant Herman Cain, also from GA, like the chopstick guy 

What I'm saying, Phoon is you should damn well respect his intelligence and position in life, and not make him out to be an idiot.

You think you're somehow 'better' or smarter than he is? Show me the proof.

Teleprompter? Yeah. You think he has the time to sit around memorizing speeches? Really.

You think he doesn't work hard? He hasn't aged in the two plus years he's been in office? Look at his hair. He started the job a young, vital man. Compare pictures of him.

Some leaders dont need to memorize, they speak from the heart, they speak from a burning fire within, I really can't remember seeing any other leader read from teleprompters the way Obama does, it's almost offensive to me.

He looks like an umpire at a tennis match.

As cynical as I am all I can see is his little army of speechwriters working away into the night to ready the propaganda for the next days speech.

I know everyone has speechwriters, but not every pres. reads almost every word, from a screen.

U rarely see him not using it, and when you do, he turns into a stuttering mess. for all the talk of him being a supreme orator..

I just don't see it.

Marco Rubio, is a good speaker, Herman Cain.. he eats Obama for lunch on the platform.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDkacOveF0

No Prompter. No lack of passion.

lastly, I'd give my right arm to watch Obama debate Newt Gingrich.

John! I never realized. You're a romantic.

Bravo! 

Hopeless.

Is hilarious that I still hear folks blaming unions for the demise of the American work force, not the actual greed. Corporate as well as Public.

I must reflect upon this and wonder, has one corporation that went with Cheap labor over seas laying off their union work force, passed a single bit of those reduced costs to their customers, or did they pocket the extra profits?  I don't remember seeing American car prices drop drastically or on any other outsourced product for that matter. So who really benefited from the cheaper labor??

But wait...It' must be the unions fault America fell in love with cheap foreign products manufactured in countries who exploit cheap / almost slave labor and drove the more expensive American made products market down the crapper. The only thing they did was give corporate America an excuse to delve in to outsourced cheap labor.

So let me get this straight, that because the Backbone of america actually wanted to live the American dream and get a fair piece of the pie, have safe working conditions, be able to retire and not be homeless, they are to blame? seriously?  ..

We have no one to blame .. cept ourselves

But hey lets lay off more american workers, out source everything, eventually no one will have any money to buy jack shit, as soon the whole country will be unemployed. Not sure what moron really thought this was a great idea..

But yes America it's always someone else's fault..

As for my story I'm just one of those lowly Road/construction workers who is currently building a bridge so I can "jump off it"...

v....there is NO question Barry has been a HUGE disappointment....{many a broken heart since `o8}brilliant as he is, he would be better suited to the clubby confines of Harvard Yard with his personality & skill set, NOT the gruesome political arena that requires gutz of steel & a certain cagey finesse.  That being said, the konservativista platform & Presidential offerings are pretty bleak as well: it`s not for nuthin`that Warren Buffett considers the current GOP lineup PATHETIC & now the desperate call for the Governor of New Jersey to step up = mind you with Ron Paul receiving the 'coveted' Barry Manilow endorsement of hiz Ayn Rand political moonscape, one needs only review the lowlights of his polices; consider:that stuff about Paul wanting to eliminate minimum wage…brilliant strategy to get people working and rejoice over those newly available $1.72/hour jobs....after all, workers in India and Bangladesh get paid a quarter of that and they’re happy.

Same with eliminating the FDA and getting the government out of the business of regulating drugs.  Much better idea to hand over that responsibility to the drug companies.  Makes perfect sense because you know that big pharma’s only concern is your welfare.  Just ask the health insurers.  They’ll tell you that no one guards a hen house better than a skulk of foxes.

The Federal Aviation Administration?  Worthless, money-gobbling bureaucracy.  Paul understands that air safety and your life is best managed by an altruistic private sector.

U.S Department of Education?  Gone.

U.S. Department of Energy?  Gone.

U.S. Department of Commerce?  Gone.

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services?  Gone.

U.S. Department of Homeland Security?  Gone.

Federal Emergency Management Agency?  Gone.

Internal Revenue Service?  Gone.

In Ron Paul’s finely tuned analysis, all of the above are “unnecessary bureaucracies” and Barry Manilow agrees.  That’s all anyone needs to know.

Here’s the bottom line: when a presidential candidate has the support of a man who not only writes music but is Music, for crying out loud…and writes the songs that make the whole world sing, as well as songs of love and special things, to say nothing of songs which make young girls cry, what more do they need?

Nothing.  Absolutely nothing.

A MAJOR slice of my pizza goes to HG. You won't have to hijack it ever again, bud.

Indeed, for so many reasons, we have no one and everyone (especially ourselves) to blame. Houses, hard drives, whatever we consistently, persistently and constantly look for the "bargain". Costs far more than it ever saved.

We need manufacturing and export here in America because that will be the only way out of this mess.

he's a preacher, what do you expect. for me at least, the choice between public speaking and sharp stick in the eye has always been a tough choice.

one might also consider that the lose of job/income has driven people to purchase cheaper products in order to make ends meet. Walmat single handed killed the American textile market, now those people are out of work and if they need socks, guess where they are manufacturered.

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cause and effect, cause and effect.