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Fallen Enchantress- Magic

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                One of the three focuses for Fallen Enchantress is Magic.  We want the spells to be unique, to feel like casters with enough mana can change the world.  We want magic to fill the game, all the sovereigns start with spells though some like Procipinee are better spell casters than Verga.  As in Master of Magic you can choose your sovereigns proficiency with the various magic types when you create them.

 

 

                I’ve attached a PDF of the spells with this post.  It includes the normal spells the player can cast, it doesn’t include spell abilities of creatures, spell like abilities granted by equipment and some other special abilities in the game.

                I’d like to give a special thanks both to Unacomn for suggesting the Shadow World spell and NuclearNeumann for suggesting the Blood Curse spell.  They are fun spells to play with.

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  I Removed the spell PDF as it is almost a year old and woefully out of date.  New spells have been added and even more are coming.  check out out dev journal on spells here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ArdQVqLHsI&feature=youtu.be

 

- Derek 4/11/2012

 

 

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Reply #301 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Murteas, reply 296

Quoting Heavenfall, reply 293I doubt the spell system has been done yet, as it was worded in that thread there was a high uncertainty if it would be in the game.

 

I have read this a few times, and I think it is a joke, but I am still confused.   Heavenfall, what do you mean if you were being serious?
Based on the post directly above his, I'd guess a non-hardcoded modder-accessible spell system.

Reply #302 from Elemental Forums Top

DsRaider, there is an ocean of difference between being done NOW, and being done when it's available. My take from that post was that the spell system was still in development, and not "done", finalized. On top of that, it isn't even certain that the system will be in the game at all.

Elemental: Reforged
Reply #303 from Elemental Forums Top

@Heavenfall - thanks for the clarification. :)   

 

Looking forward to seeing the magic system, and I would guess that it will be one of the systems that will see some serious tweaking once we get our hands on the beta.  

Reply #304 from Demigod Forums Top

hmm, read the pdf.

 

I think we need more spells.

Someone posted that it would be awsome that one school excells in one type of spells, other in another.

Also, a game might have a basic spell that could be augmented with addistional powering with extra mana for another part f varying effect, like, for example, regeneration in one area, or in one army, base is XX points, per 3 turns, i you pump XX mana into it, it prolongs the time effect of regeneration.

 

the spell list should definitely be longer.

 

Oh, and I can't get over the ugly terrain, please make it look nicer....

Reply #305 from Elemental Forums Top

athelasloraiel,

 

check out the other threads.  This one is old and probably doesn't do the game justice in terms of what is really there now.   Of course, we'll have a better idea once the beta is out.

Reply #307 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Murteas, reply 305
athelasloraiel,

 

check out the other threads.  This one is old and probably doesn't do the game justice in terms of what is really there now.   Of course, we'll have a better idea once the beta is out.

 

Hi athelasloraiel, I can see you are ghosting through all these forums! Stoardock rocks, doesn't it?!?!?

Reply #308 from Elemental Forums Top

In Wall of Fire (and other such "attack all" spells) I would hope the 2 fire damage per unit is really 2 fire damage per soldier in a unit.

 

So that, a champion or other 1 soldier unit would get 2 fire damage ... while a 10 soldier unit would get 20 total damage (2 damage to each of their individual HPs, if 'hopefully' possible)

Reply #309 from Stardock Forums Top

Hell I think just about everybody who knows about these forums posted on this thread. So I'm the only one that was missing....

 

hehe :beer:

Reply #310 from Elemental Forums Top

I've been watching Master of Magic games on youtube and playing some myself and the number of interesting spells in Master of Magic is FAR greater than in this PDF.

For a game that is supposedly based on Magic and that is supposed to make us all powerful when we have enough mana, I don't feel the power of magic when I read the PDF



This is the reason why in all video games, RPG and board games, the wizard is always the weakest character classs. Because people are scared to make wizards powerful because they fear that they will unbalance the game. This is a reason why they lock up wizards in a tower in dragon age ... they are dangerous.


The only video games that  I know that does not have this psychological restriction is "Master of Magic" and "D&D shadow over mystara".



Reply #311 from Elemental Forums Top

Are you in the beta? There are so many more spells than this already. Mages are by far more powerful than any other class...

 

Ex: Mana Blast does 10% of your total Mana in damage to any unit. Saving 1800 Mana allows me to instakill any enemy unit. Magic needs to be nerfed quite a bit.

Reply #312 from Elemental Forums Top

I think a way to balance the magic system a bit would be to allow mana costs to be adjustable, such that they should be set within a gamemodifier instead of the current SpellResourceCost in the XML.

So for instance one could increase the mana cost based on the number of shards used, or in the case of Mana Blast it could cause 10% of pre-cast mana damage to any one unit, and cost 50% of the current mana to cast. 

I believe this could help solve a lot of the current overpowered magic issues.

Reply #313 from Elemental Forums Top

Balance between Death and Life spells.

 

Who thinks Life has better spells then death?

Note 

(1) If you lower the stats of a Mob, you get LESS exp when you kill it, so wither takes away exp, while courage and regeneration lets you have full exp.

(2) Call to Arms is so powerful, you city can have 10 building queue up with one Drake at the end and for 40 mana,  the Drake is instantly ready!

(3) Death Ward means your hero has 50% more hp. 

 

I have been trying a few death builds and just can't get them to be as powerful as the life builds

 

 

Reply #314 from Elemental Forums Top

Death is only good when you have Death Worship.

Reply #315 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting seanw3, reply 314
Death is only good when you have Death Worship.

 

OK, will try a Empire custom race with Death Worship, Serpent Pack & Powerful (with Uneducated)

Reply #316 from Elemental Forums Top


I don't know, there is spell seem can't easy to get like Mana Blast, but that can get "quest" and all in my playing again, again in .86 beta, it's rare to get quest, and quest do not respwan, so I rather get all those spell from quest or other by reseaching so I get all of them. that's me.

Reply #317 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting larienna, reply 310
I've been watching Master of Magic games on youtube and playing some myself and the number of interesting spells in Master of Magic is FAR greater than in this PDF.

For a game that is supposedly based on Magic and that is supposed to make us all powerful when we have enough mana, I don't feel the power of magic when I read the PDF









This is the reason why in all video games, RPG and board games, the wizard is always the weakest character classs. Because people are scared to make wizards powerful because they fear that they will unbalance the game. This is a reason why they lock up wizards in a tower in dragon age ... they are dangerous.





The only video games that I know that does not have this psychological restriction is "Master of Magic" and "D&D shadow over mystara".

 

Don't forget Age of Wonders (all three versions)

Reply #319 from Sins Forums Top

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Reply #321 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting sdzack, reply 319
Armies of Magic is a Facebook-based...

 

Lost me with that, I'm afraid.

Reply #322 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting seanw3, reply 320
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