Dr Guy Dr Guy

Browser Wars

Browser Wars

No Right Answer

I have several browsers on my desktop.  I have XP at home (bought 3 years ago - BEFORE 7, and did not want Vista) so IE9 is not an option (work is Vista - I was right in my home purchase).  So I am using IE8 both at home and work.  When I use IE.  I have Firefox which is my browser of choice, Opera, Safari, and Chrome.

I know many will disagree with me, and that is fine, but my experiences show that no one is winning, just some are losing slower.

Opera is fine if all you want to do is read the news.  It is relatively fast, and clean.  for a quick hit, I like it, but seldom use it.

Safari is for Mac users.  Nothing wrong with the windows version - just not a lot right (like add ons and such).  It has not given me a reason to switch to it as a primary browser - or even secondary.  As such, I do not hate it, just do not use it.

Chrome is not fast.  I wonder if the FCC will nab them for false advertising.  Doubtful since it is free.  but the lack of speed has turned me off to it.  Like Opera, I use it on occasion, but it is not on the top of my browser list.

IE is fast launching.  It is also the browser of last resort (when the Stardock forums mess up, or a web page will not display correctly in other browsers, IE will work).  But it is not fast surfing.  And has one idiosyncrasy (actually 2) that I hate.

#1: when closing multiple tabs and windows, and saving them, relaunching IE brings them all up in one window.  Why? (Did 9 fix that?)

#2: More often than not, when closing said tabs, IE will "crash" and then open all the windows again - without asking.

#3 (well, I mis-counted) Windows does not recover from a non-shutdown crash with all tabs.

But on the good side, of my top 2 browsers, it is by far the most frugal with memory (I never thought I would say that!).  I had 2 windows and 12 tabs open the other day, and it was using only 100mb of memory (ONLY!!!!!  God we have come far).

Firefox is my browser of first choice.  I like the thousands of Add Ons I can choose to add (or not), the ease at which I can enable or disable them, and the fast browsing.  But it is not perfect.

#1: It is slow to launch - especially if there is an update.  But even without an update, it will take about 5 minutes where IE takes about 1.

#2: it is a memory HOG!  Same day, I also had Firefox up with 6 tabs open, one window.  It was pegging 500mb!  I frequently have to crash the browser as once it gets over 500mb (one system has 2gb the other has 4gb of memory so it does not appear to matter how much total memory there is), it dogs it.  But the crashing leads to the reason it is my main browser - namely:

#1: When you shut it down, and then relaunch, it does not open the Home pages PLUS the saved tabs (IE does thatt - and I have 3 home pages so it really clutters things up).

#2: When you crash it (or it does it to itself - it does not crash often), it will open the previous tabs in their respective windows - not all in one.  Often when IE crashes, your tabs are gone.

#3 - and the biggest reason I prefer it - it is not IE!  In that I mean you avoid the bugs that the script kiddies and malware authors love to exploit in IE (should Firefox become #1, I am sure they will target it and I will probably change my main browser).

But that brings up another thing that is not good about Firefox (version 3.x.x).  It does not allow you to "save" tabs when you have multiple windows open until you close the last one.  Unless you crash it.

Still, with all its faults (well not so many, just aggravating), Firefox is my browser of choice. 

Now before someone gets to calling me stupid for missing something obvious on a setting, I will admit that while I have poked around in the options, I am not an expert at them.  So if you know a setting that can ease my gripes about either IE or Firefox, I will be happy to hear them!  Or if you want to tout the wonders of another browser, tell me why it is your favorite.  I am not a browser snob.  I just want a tool that I do not have to crash periodically (Firefox) - or that crashes on me (IE).

451,448 views 206 replies
Reply #176 Top

 

Tout à fait d'accord mon homme vert ......heu de peur.....hem, vert de rage......hem vert de gris......hem vert....ige!

Allons faire le Safari au kilimandjaro à dos de rhino!!!!!

<3  Ta bleue.....d'Auvergne

Reply #178 Top

 

 

Au sommet, au sommet, je viendrai te faire danser..... 1*

Au sommet, au sommet, je viendrai te caliner 2*

 

Au sommet, au sommet, je viendrai te chouchouter 3*

 

Au sommet, au sommet, je viendrai vite t'embrasser 4*

 

Au sommet, au sommet, on les fera tous beuguer 5*

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 :P

Reply #179 Top

OUHAOU !!!! tu me fait fondre comme les neiges du Kilimandjaro <3 <3 <3

la ou ils peuvent pas comprendre l'amour sur notre planete :inlove:

Là ou rien n'est obstacle, ni guerre, mais seulement 1 seul navigateur :d

le navigateur de l'ameuuu :moo:

 

Reply #180 Top

 

Mon chouchou, mon petit homme vert qu'à moi, çà te dirait de venir voir un bon film du genre extra-terrestre? :wc:

Au chaud dans notre soucoupe volante, un peu comme dans la soupe aux choux! :pizza:

 

Tu veux dis? Le navigateur intra soucoupe t'attend, pour naviguer au gré du vent, en pétouillant et pétaradant! o_O

 

Petite femme bleue t'attend pour beuguer sur des coussinets \o/

Reply #183 Top

Help! We been transported to France and nobody told me.

Help! Nous avons été transportés en France et personne ne m'a dit. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Reply #184 Top

Du Quois: This is Chevalier, Montage, Detente, Avant Garde, and Deja Vu.
Deja Vu: Haven't we met before?
Nick Rivers: I don't think so.
Du Quois: Over there, Croissant, Souffle, Escargot, and Chocolate Mousse.

Reply #185 Top

Quoting Uvah, reply 171
This post is with palemoon. I still have FF4 open. I minimized FF4 and opened palemoon. It opened normally already logged in. Go figure. Why didn't it work before. that was exactly one hour ago.
End of Uvah's quote

Since Palemoon is a FF derivative, could they be using the same cookies?

Reply #186 Top

Quoting Uvah, reply 183
Help! We been transported to France and nobody told me.

Help! Nous avons été transportés en France et personne ne m'a dit.
End of Uvah's quote

:grin:

But it is a pretty language.

Reply #187 Top

"Did you enjoy your trip to France?"

+1 Loading…
Reply #188 Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 187
"Did you enjoy your trip to France?"
End of DrJBHL's quote

Linking Articles now? ;)

Reply #191 Top

Quoting Leo, reply 189
http://lifehacker.com/#!5786804/why-ive-switched-from-chrome-to-firefox-4

Worth a read........but I'm sticking to Chrome
End of Leo's quote

ok, I have heard both sides of FF4 now, so I guess I am going to just have to install it and see for myself.  great article!  Thanks for he link (I would have tried FF4 eventually - like when 4.0.1 came out. ;) )

 

Reply #192 Top

I asked this question before but forgot where. I just got palemoon 4. I tried to uninstall the previous version but it is not listed under programs/features in control panel. Nor does it show up when I open Revo. I thought all installed programs would be in at least one of them. Can I just install palemoon 4 over the previous version?

Reply #193 Top

Quoting Uvah, reply 192
Can I just install palemoon 4 over the previous version?
End of Uvah's quote

That's what I did and it seems to have worked just fine.  Didn't see anything telling me not to do that.

It will check your plugins etc, disable and tell you which ones aren't compatible anymore just like FireFox did.

Reply #194 Top

Thanks DaveRI. Been wanting to check it out all day.

Reply #195 Top

Quoting DaveRI, reply 190
I see the new version of Pale Moon is out now.  i haven't played with it.

http://www.palemoon.org/

 
End of DaveRI's quote

Faster than hell, no crashes.

Reply #196 Top

Did the install and palemoon went nuts. The scroll function didn't work. When I used the arrow keys it started vibrating madly. Couldn't open any tabs and the homepage, WC, was there but I couldn't navigate any where. Buggy is the word I'm looking for. I uninstalled it. Oh and it soesn't support Imageshack. Not compatible. Its no good to me then.

Reply #197 Top

But on the other hand when you unistall it and 'its still there'. WTF! I got the home page open it right now and I just got finished uninstalling it. what's wrong with this picture?!?

 

Reply #198 Top

Quoting Uvah, reply 197
what's wrong with this picture?!?
End of Uvah's quote

Uvah painted it?

Sounds like a double or borked install. Reboot and see if there's anything to uninstall. If not, I'd try reinstalling. Love Pale Moon.

Reply #199 Top

They did have some hardware requirements out there for processors, mostly just anything not horribly ancient, but I have no idea what's in your machine so you might check that if you didn't.

Reply #200 Top

I did that. I had to go into program files and delete the folder. Did a re-install and got the same results. I'm going back to palemoon 3.6.15. At least that one worked. What's up with palemoon 4 I have no clue. I downloaded it from the palemoon website. Threatfire flagged it too. It tried to modify how I connect to the net. I had to kill the process again.

BTW ...AMD processor at 2.6 gigs. 3 gigs of ram. 320 gig HD. Win 7 64 bit. Previous version worked like a charm. And PM4 looks a little like IE. Same color scheme. And my laptop is not even a year old yet. Nine months I have it.