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The REAL Chatroom

Or alternative Chatroom

Ok, so I decided to create a new Chatroom, because the old one was getting pretty....old!  ;P

Everyone may post here, as well as in the good'ol Flameroom...I mean, Chatroom *_*

I would like to keep this Chatroom civilized. Well, as civilized as most forum threads are (doesnt mean that you all have to be polite like Oatesy, lol).

So for this reason, I may update the OP of this thread in the future, posting certain thread rules, as I see fit.

For now though, post away, and everyone is welcome! :)

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Reply #651 Top

Quoting CmdrNilles, reply 650
I can't help you with the first one but I might be able to help with the 2nd

 

From what my dad has told me (he is a scar fan)  the scar-H is a battle rifle and fires  7.62x51mm round while the scar l fires the standard NATO round.  I am also pretty sure that the scar can switch barrels by taking out screws and replacoing it with a different barrel for a diffferent bullet( not 100% sure)

 

My dad says if he wins the lottery he will buy me and my brother one
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Spell-check.

"He will buy one for my brother and I."

Grammatical error

 

I think that I am doing Whiskey's job.

"From what my father has told me (for he is a scar fan) the scar-H is a battle rifle that fires 7.62x51mm rounds. As opposed to the scar I, which fires the standard NATO round. I am also pretty sure that the scar has the capability of having its barrel replaced for a different bullet, of this I am less sure."

 

Grammar Nazism

Woot.

 

Reply #652 Top

Quoting CmdrNilles, reply 647
Ok, ok, ok you win (hey your right you can win wars )

but I don't really care for spelling as I am just a teenager. plus its close enough

1.Quite true but I beleive that a heavier Navy and Air Corps pounding could have lessened the american death's

2.Again possible, but I like to think that other choiceesw were available

3. I apoligize about doing that, but I still disagree

 

The Godzilla part.

 

I want an even match ok. I'm pretty sure you know what I meant. If it were Godzilla vs. the zillo beast (btw can anybody tell me what happneed to it, i didn't see that episode), the Krayt Dragon or an Army, would have been a FAIR,EVEN MATCHED OPPONENTS!

 

Oh and I really only like the American Godzilla and his tv show.
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The problem is that the point of most scifi versus is to see who would kick the crap out of the other. I.E., Star Wars vs. Star Trek, which usually means "could the Empire kick the Federation's ass".

The Federation is dwarfed by the Empire in every way shape, and form. The Empire has bigger, significantly more powerful ships, and the Empire covers millions of star systems (versus just 150 planets that the Federation controls). No matter what the Federation does, the Empire wins.

Really, the only way for the Federation to "win" a scenario is if the scenario never happens. Basically, the Empire has to consider the Federation to be too much work to bring up to Empire-standards.

I do concede that an ISD vs Godzilla is a hideously unmatched fight, and probably a bit unfair. But the point is that "fairness" is basically making each side follow the same rules. That's it. It's not making sure each side is equal, because as I noted earlier, a fight between an adult and a child, so long as both follow the same rules, is fair. It's unmatched, but fair.

Quoting CmdrNilles, reply 648
Oh whiskey this is for you

 


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Except, of course, why would I even be on the same planet as Godzilla?

Quoting Oatesy03, reply 649
So what exactly are the stimulants that the USAF takes before going into the air? I've heard it said that it could be part of the reason that the USAF has had more than a few... accidents with friendlies. While I doubt that it leaves them as high as some claim, does anybody know what they actually take?

 

Also, can somebody try to make the M4 or the FN Scar vaguely more interesting for me? They've both always struck me as incredibly boring, though I don't know much about them, so that may be at least partially why.
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No idea about the USAF stims. I'd imagine it's something to keep them awake/alert, or increase g-force tolerance, if they actually do have stimulants that they issue.

As for the M4/FN SCAR, well, can't help with the M4, as I consider it to be a well-designed, but poor weapon. Most of it has to do with fairly intense maintenance requirements.

The SCAR, well, you can pretty much dump it in a bucket of dirt, let it sit a couple hours, pull it out, and fire it just fine.

Reply #653 Top

@Syneptus- yes, you are doing part of my job for me. But in this case, help is appreciated.

Besides, good grammar, spelling, and punctuation combine to make a post legible, and easy to read. If it's easy to read, then people will actually, *gasp* read it. Also, wall of text=BAD.

Reply #654 Top

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 653
@Syneptus- yes, you are doing part of my job for me. But in this case, help is appreciated.

Besides, good grammar, spelling, and punctuation combine to make a post legible, and easy to read. If it's easy to read, then people will actually, *gasp* read it. Also, wall of text=BAD.
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HaHaHA :typo:

 

 

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 652


 

Quoting CmdrNilles, reply 648Oh whiskey this is for you

 

Except, of course, why would I even be on the same planet as Godzilla?



 
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Why not?

 

Oh and regardless a matched fight. Is that too hard too ask.

Even Godzillla needs a reasonable opponent

 

Even if Empire is brought down to Federation then it is a well matched fight(maybe)

 

 

Reply #655 Top

Sorry Nilles.

I had a random trollish spasm.

 

Godzilla cannot stand up to the might of Togepi. Togepi blows up stuff by simply waving its hands...

Not much else to be said.

Reply #656 Top

Quoting CmdrNilles, reply 654
Why not?

 

Oh and regardless a matched fight. Is that too hard too ask.

Even Godzillla needs a reasonable opponent

 

Even if Empire is brought down to Federation then it is a well matched fight(maybe)

 

 
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I doubt you realize this, but YOU'RE COMPLETELY MISSING THE FUCKING POINT YOU JACKASS.

A "reasonable opponent" is NOT THE FUCKING POINT of a versus scenario. Either party having an equal chance at victory IS NOT THE FUCKING POINT of a versus scenario.

The WHOLE FUCKING POINT of a versus scenario is to pit two or more entities against each other and figure out what would happen, and who would win. Whether or not the scenario is "reasonable" or "evenly matched" is FUCKING IRRELEVANT. The relevancy is that both parties have to play by the same rules. Nothing more, nothing less.

Sadly, you're last sentence betrays your total ignorance of versus debates in general, and SW vs ST in particular. Even if the Empire were the same size as, or even smaller than, the Federation, the Federation STILL FUCKING DIES.

Because the Empire's warships have:

1) Greater firepower. A single ISD, the mainline warship of the Imperial Navy, can slag an entire planet. The Federation's entire fleet can't rival that.

2) Greater FTL Speed. This doesn't sound like much, but the fact that an ISD with a hyperdrive can outrun the COMMUNICATIONS SIGNAL of a Federation starship is a MASSIVE strategic advantage. It's like pitting the Roman Legions against a modern force with airlift capability. The modern force has such a massive mobility advantage that they can use to strike anytime, anywhere, and it allows them to fight on only the most favorable terms to themselves.

Except, of course, in the case of the Empire vs the Federation, it's even worse.

3) Greater durability. This goes hand-in-hand with greater firepower; SW's greater firepower in general means that SW warships have to be able to stand up to greater amounts of destructive energy. A Federation starship could pound all day on an ISD and not even put its (the ISD's) shields down. Whereas an ISD can annihilate a Fed starship in a single shot.

4) Greater industrial capacity. The Empire's control of a million worlds can be chalked up to this, but the ability to field and maintain a fleet including 25,000 mile-long ISD-Is and ISD-IIs, along with probably around 100 Executors (the big 19 kilometer (nearly 12 miles) long super star destroyer) is not to be underestimated.

Add in the ability to construct 60% of the Death Star II, in six months, and it's even worse. keep in mind that the first Death Star was 160 kilometers in diameter (that's 100 miles in diameter for those less metrically inclined), and the DS2 was BIGGER than that. By A LOT. Like, some DSII size estimates peg it at 900 kilometers (nearly seven times the diameter of DS1, and many times the volume) a lot.

As an aside, I'm not the least bit interested in a Godzilla versus. I "raised you one ISD" to illustrate the point that Godzilla is by far one of the least killy things in any science fiction, particularly compared to the Star Wars universe. You seem to believe that I'm interested because I've been refuting your statements that a versus match should be equal in all respects between all sides.

While for a fanfic, that would be acceptable, for a versus scenario, it simply isn't.

Furthermore, don't keep repeating that a versus scenario should be "evenly matched". By their very nature, versus scenarios aren't supposed to be evenly matched. It's simply a consequence of taking different universes and pitting groups from said 'verses against each other.

On a tangent, continuing to repeat yourself while ignoring the rebuttals of your "opponent" (which in this case is me, as we've descended into a fairly informal debate), is called "broken record debating". It's very heavily frowned upon, to the point that most experienced debators of any kind will conclude that you simply have no other argument and are hoping to win by so frustating your opposition that they simply give up. In which case, you will then be heavily flamed, trolled, and/or ridiculed.

Quoting Syneptus, reply 655
Sorry Nilles.

I had a random trollish spasm.

 

Godzilla cannot stand up to the might of Togepi. Togepi blows up stuff by simply waving its hands...

Not much else to be said.
End of Syneptus's quote

Random trollish spasms FTW.

Reply #658 Top

@ whiskey i understand but I want a well matched fight :-"

Reply #659 Top

Quoting Twilight_Storm, reply 657
Trollgasm?

 

-Twilight Storm
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Lulzy statement FTW.

Quoting CmdrNilles, reply 658
@ whiskey i understand but I want a well matched fight
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Well, then you're simply going to be lampooned as a fool by most versus debators you encounter.

Reply #660 Top

Quoting CmdrNilles, reply 658
@ whiskey i understand but I want a well matched fight
End of CmdrNilles's quote

 

Godzilla vs gordon freeman

Reply #661 Top

can't help with the M4, as I consider it to be a well-designed, but poor weapon. Most of it has to do with fairly intense maintenance requirements.
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Yeah I heard that. Apparently the gas from the fired round is pumped straight up the barrel to move the working parts, blowing all the debris into the working parts. Not fun for when you have to clean it.

 

So Morph, what does this weapon remind you of? It's a model, not the real thing, and we call it the L119A1. Hmm... Looks strangely familiar...

Reply #662 Top

Looks like a tripod

Reply #663 Top

Got it in one Altaux. This is the L119A1 "Tripod", the next British assault rifle, to be introduced by 2025.

Reply #664 Top

Quoting Altaux, reply 660
Godzilla vs gordon freeman
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Now Altaux, that's not evenly matched either. Gordon has an RPG, frag grenades, a crowbar, and the gravity gun. The last gives him the undeniable advantage of being able to chuck inanimate objects at Godzilla.

And what does Godzilla have? Poor maneuverability in urban environments, too tall to properly look down on stuff, and being uber tough.

Quoting Oatesy03, reply 661
Yeah I heard that. Apparently the gas from the fired round is pumped straight up the barrel to move the working parts, blowing all the debris into the working parts. Not fun for when you have to clean it.

 

So Morph, what does this weapon remind you of? It's a model, not the real thing, and we call it the L119A1. Hmm... Looks strangely familiar...


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I'm rather flummoxed by the image you posted, because all I can see is a "Image hosted by tripod www.tripod.com" logo. And I wikied the L119A1, which apparently is an M16 variant.

Reply #665 Top

Actually Whiskey, in some scenarios, Godzilla also has a nuclear beam of energy from its mouth...just sayin...

-Twilight Storm

Reply #666 Top

Now Altaux, that's not evenly matched either. Gordon has an RPG, frag grenades, a crowbar, and the gravity gun. The last gives him the undeniable advantage of being able to chuck inanimate objects at Godzilla.

And what does Godzilla have? Poor maneuverability in urban environments, too tall to properly look down on stuff, and being uber tough.
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My point exactly :D

 

Reply #667 Top

'm rather flummoxed by the image you posted, because all I can see is a "Image hosted by tripod www.tripod.com" logo. And I wikied the L119A1, which apparently is an M16 variant.
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Also what I meant

Reply #668 Top

Ah... Image fail...

Anyway, I was joking about it being called "Tripod..." I thought Altaux was making a war of the worlds reference.

Anyway, the L119A1 is a C8SFW. Basically an M16 (I think) made by the Canadian branch of Colt, with some minor adaptations.

Reply #671 Top

Quoting Twilight_Storm, reply 665
Actually Whiskey, in some scenarios, Godzilla also has a nuclear beam of energy from its mouth...just sayin...

-Twilight Storm
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Ah, but does Godzilla ever have the ability to fire a nuclear mouth energy beam in the shows and/or movies? If not, then that's a "fanon" ability, and not something he's got in the "canon" of Godzilla. This is, of course, only counting movies and/or television series of Godzilla as "Godzilla canon". Though I'm not aware of Godzilla novels or comics.

In contrast, it is fully established in Half-Life "canon" that Gordon has a gravity gun, a crowbar, and access to an RPG and high explosive grenades.

Plus a crossbow.

Reply #674 Top

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 671

Quoting Twilight_Storm, reply 665Actually Whiskey, in some scenarios, Godzilla also has a nuclear beam of energy from its mouth...just sayin...

-Twilight Storm


Ah, but does Godzilla ever have the ability to fire a nuclear mouth energy beam in the shows and/or movies? If not, then that's a "fanon" ability, and not something he's got in the "canon" of Godzilla. This is, of course, only counting movies and/or television series of Godzilla as "Godzilla canon". Though I'm not aware of Godzilla novels or comics.

In contrast, it is fully established in Half-Life "canon" that Gordon has a gravity gun, a crowbar, and access to an RPG and high explosive grenades.

Plus a crossbow.
End of Whiskey144's quote

 

Of course Godzilla has nuclear breath, he always has exceptin the America Film (but apparently Toho has said that it is not Godzilla, but Zilla o_O )

 

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 673
LOLWUT materializing cats in space. Play the song of the same name as the text I linked.

Also recomment Neurotransmitter Decay.
End of Whiskey144's quote

 

Neurotransmitter Decay?

Reply #675 Top

n contrast, it is fully established in Half-Life "canon" that Gordon has a gravity gun, a crowbar, and access to an RPG and high explosive grenades.

Plus a crossbow.
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And a cool Dog too