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Kushana Initiative Planning and Discussion

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Kushana Initiative Planning and Discussion

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Hello friends old and new!

 

After a lengthy hiatus, I've come back around to enjoy some GalCiv2.  While playtesting my Major Minors, I remembered a discussion in another forum about playing a game by democracy.  It never went anywhere, but I thought I'd bring it up here.  The basic concept is that I'd play a game and post reports, and the participants would discuss and vote on the course of action.  The exact details and pace of the game are up for discussion.

 

I think it would be fun and I'd like to give it a try.  Anybody else interested in such a thing?

 

Edit Oct 10, 2010:  After some discussion, the game is on!  A new topic has been made, so if you're interested you can find it here: https://forums.galciv2.com/398308

 

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Reply #126 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Yes yes yes, the new voting structure will work well. i think we should use it for this ballot.

Reply #127 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Well, it's been several days since the opening of discussions.  Perhaps it's time to prepare the ballot?

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Reply #128 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Well if everyone is done discussing, it would be nice if we get a poll up soon.

Reply #129 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Hey, lightbulb! Maybe we could add a section to the quarterly ballots called, Changes to Operating Structure, or something similar scince issues like these seem to be continually reappearing.

Reply #130 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Erm with the new system I thought you didn't need to include what the previous people had voted for

 

I'm confused.....

Reply #131 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Quoting mambaman, reply 130
Erm with the new system I thought you didn't need to include what the previous people had voted for

 

I'm confused.....

 

No problem.  You did  fine, but we still need to keep everything together so I can tally it up at the end.  It saves me the time of having to scroll through the topic to find the votes.

Reply #132 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Hello everyone, I checked on the voting. I was extremley bored so I whipped this up. It is a summary of how the voting is going so far. The research values have been calculated and are in order from first (lowest) to last (highest). Anyway, here:

Research

Soil Enhancement     : 9

Space Weapons       : 11

Advanced Computing: 18 OR Space Defenses       : 18

Basic Miniaturization : 23

Weather Control       : 26

Foreign Relations

Tech exchange with Gnolams (Diplomatic Relations) : Succeeding (Unanimous so far)

Tech exchange with Yor after DR and Translator       : Succeeding (4-1)

Strengthen relations with Gnolams                          : Failing (3-2)

Development and Shipbuilding

Build Diplomatic Translator at Fortuna: Succeeding (Unanimous so far)

Build Visionary at Fortuna                 : Failing (3-2)

Signature:   SarcFa, mambaman, TMS2224, Noctilucus, NikolaiOmega

Reply #133 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Actually, TMS2224, the votes that you say are failing are succeeding, 0 means neutral not against, - means against.

The corrected summary is below.

Research

Soil Enhancement     : 9

Space Weapons       : 11

Advanced Computing: 18 OR Space Defenses       : 18

Basic Miniaturization : 23

Weather Control       : 26

Foreign Relations

Tech exchange with Gnolams (Diplomatic Relations) : Succeeding (Unanimous so far)

Tech exchange with Yor after DR and Translator       : Succeeding (4-0)

Strengthen relations with Gnolams                          : Succeeding (2-0)

Development and Shipbuilding

Build Diplomatic Translator at Fortuna: Succeeding (Unanimous so far)

Build Visionary at Fortuna                 : Succeeding (2-0)

Signature:   SarcFa, mambaman, TMS2224, Noctilucus, NikolaiOmega

Reply #134 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Nice correction Sarc and thanks for the clarification Tolmekian

Happy New Year all from the UK!!  :D :D

Reply #135 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Happy New Year!

I'd like to put a hard time limit on discussion to keep things moving along.  Say one week.  Opinions?

Reply #136 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

One week seems fair.

By the way, has anyone not voted yet?

Reply #137 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Agree with tiimgs for closure for discussion
Reply #138 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Agree as well on one week.

Best wishes to all!

Reply #139 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Ooops^_^ , thanks for the clarification SarcFa, and 1 week sounds great.

Reply #140 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Looks like LordCarlos is absent yet.  We'll give him just a bit more time.  Meanwhile, it's off for yet another playtest . . .

Reply #141 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

I'm going to move forward.  I'm a bit busy of late, so it may take a little while, but this is just to let you know.

Reply #142 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Yup go for it Tolmekian  :thumbsup:

Reply #143 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

As a heads up, if I would not respond in time for the next voting, don't wait for me and go ahead.

The past week at work was quite loaded and hectic with extremely long days, the upcoming few weeks will bring more of the same.

Reply #144 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Here is how the voting is going so far:

Research(1st-Last)

Weather Control          : 1, 3, 5, 3, 5 = 17

Missile Weapon Theory : 3, 7, 1, 5, 3= 19 OR Advanced Computing   : 5, 2, 7, 4, 1= 19

Research Centers        : 8, 4, 6, 1, 2= 21 OR Advanced Diplomacy    : 6, 1, 8, 2, 4= 21

Basic Logistics             : 4, 6, 3, 6, 6= 25

Stinger I                     : 2, 8, 2, 7, 7= 26

Sensors III                 : 7, 5, 4, 8, 8= 32

Foreign Relations

Tech exchange with Drath for Trade Centers                                   : +, +, +, +, + (Succeeding-Unanimous)

Wait for Adv. Diplo for Trade with Yor (else will proceed immediately):  +, +, +, 0, + (Succeeding-4 For, 1 Neutral)

Send freighter to Gnolams                                                           : +, +, +, 0, + (Succeeding-4 For, 1 Neutral)

Starbase and Mining Operations

Arm Starbases                       : +, +, +, 0, 0 (Succeeding-3 For, 2 Neutral)

Construct Economic Starbases : +, +, 0, 0, + (Succeeding-3 For, 2 Neutral)

Resume Space Mining            : 0, +, +, 0, + (Succeeding-3 For, 2 Neutral)

Signature:   Mambaman, NikolaiOmega, TMS2224, SarcFa, qrtxian 

Reply #145 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

That may just be the final tally.  With Noctilucus letting us know he's busy and Lord Carlos's extended absence I think I'm going to move ahead.  I probably won't get a chance to play until tomorrow, so the polls remain open until then.

Reply #146 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Why is everyone gone?!?!XO  :rofl:  XO  :rofl:  :thumbsdown:  :thumbsdown:  :thumbsdown:  :'(  >:(  :annoyed:   X(

Reply #147 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

I know, it sucks. Damn you, real life! Stop holding up our councilors!

Reply #148 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Tolmekian, Probably you already made the move but just in case I've added my vote and re-calculated the results below. In any case it's interesting to see as an exercise that 1 vote can change the research order quite a bit.
The peak in workload and working hours should be over, so hopefully my next vote will be on time again ;)

Research(1st-Last)

Advanced Computing   : 5, 2, 7, 4, 1, 2 = 21

Research Centers        : 8, 4, 6, 1, 2, 1 = 22

Weather Control          : 1, 3, 5, 3, 5, 6 = 23 OR Missile Weapon Theory : 3, 7, 1, 5, 3, 4 = 23

Advanced Diplomacy    : 6, 1, 8, 2, 4, 3 = 24

Stinger I                     : 2, 8, 2, 7, 7, 5 = 31

Basic Logistics             : 4, 6, 3, 6, 6, 8 = 33

Sensors III                 : 7, 5, 4, 8, 8, 7 = 39

Foreign Relations

Tech exchange with Drath for Trade Centers                                   : +, +, +, +, +, + (Succeeding-Unanimous)

Wait for Adv. Diplo for Trade with Yor (else will proceed immediately):  +, +, +, 0, +, 0 (Succeeding-4 For, 2 Neutral)

Send freighter to Gnolams                                                           : +, +, +, 0, +, + (Succeeding-5 For, 1 Neutral)

Starbase and Mining Operations

Arm Starbases                       : +, +, +, 0, 0, 0 (Tie-3 For, 3 Neutral) --> succeeding?

Construct Economic Starbases : +, +, 0, 0, +, 0 (Tie-3 For, 3 Neutral) --> succeeding?

Resume Space Mining            : 0, +, +, 0, +, + (Succeeding-4 For, 2 Neutral)

Signature:   Mambaman, NikolaiOmega, TMS2224, SarcFa, qrtxian, Noctilucus 

Reply #149 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

It's all good, Noctilucus.  The polls don't close until Tallybot posts the results and sends them to Exterra Command.  I didn't get a chance to play last night, and it looks like maybe 50:50 for tonight.  I'm going to go ahead and close up the polls, though.

I've thought about how the last vote can really swing the research priorities.  The only way around it would be a closed vote (pm ballots to me, I guess.)  As it is, I trust the councilors will act responsibly.

Reply #150 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Are you guys posting on two threads?