I wasn't talking about L5R, I was talking about how the anime culture has influenced video games these days to further objectify sexuality. Pick up any such game (Final Fantasy) and you will find that NO female characters wear anything resembling armor (or sometimes even decent clothing). Or any male characrters for that matter. O_o

I'm not sure why you quoted me since you seem to be replying to somebody else. I said "both looks good AND looks like something that could plausably work. So no chainmail bikinis". I don't know how you got from that that I don't want varying styles of armor, armor that has to be fully realistic, or that I'm a 13 year old chiristan. In fact I'm a 30 year old atheist and I just find shameless pandering like chainmail bikinis to be stupid. Armor can look cool AND look like something that might concievably actually function at the same time. Chainmail bikinis do not.

Tridus - only the first couple of lines of what I wrote was related to what you said, and I wasn't really disagreeing with you. Actually, I think we agree.

The rest of my comments were generally directed at the more zealous sections. Sorry for the confusion.

I should use line breaks more maybe?

Oh ok. Yeah we probably do agree.

What?  I'll have to check that out, lol.

However it goes back further than computer games.

How about this for an expansion?  Elemental: Dungeons

Dungeon Picture (NSFW)

I wasn't saying it shouldn't.  Just that its funny.  I believe that it was surge72 who had something to say about it. (I would like to point out that Gandolf kinda died, so that seems to me a bad example...)

I don't.... because if it was meant for me my work wouldn't block that website   (Though, I guess that's folly logic since my work blocks 90% of gaming sites I visit).    I would say I'm going to go home and click on that link, but I'm a little leery where you're going with that jock strap thing.  

I hope it is going to the unlockable thong outfits you can get in Neo Contra.  (nothing like 2 huge muscular men wielding heavy firearms and explosives in less than 3 square feet of cloth as armor.  I don't even think they are wearing boots as they surf on torpedoes and stand on the surface of a ship while it starts burning up in atmosphere.)

edit:  YES!!    not for me though, for stardock.    THAT ARMOR! is exactly what I'm talking about.  (he-man also is a good example)

Thank God I wasn't drinking anything, otherwise I would have sprayed my monitor with a spit spray. That was good.

She can be in my party anytime!

Much better said

I'm glad Elemental lacks women in armor bikinis and hope not to see any; they're silly. Stylish armor for women, on the other hand is a worthwhile goal, although a very, very, very low priority behind all the other things the worthy SD folks could spend time on.

I believe in equal opportunity so men have to have plate thongs and nipple tassles too.

Male Nipple Tassles as per your request.  Sure you don't want to reconsider that request now?

(I hope that Google doesn't start modifying my search results after that search... people that searched for "male nipple tassles" also searched for...)

Man, have you played Mafia 2 yet? You get to run around and collect hidden "Playboys" with naked chicks in them. Lots of tits in the game. Very awesome .

...and before anyone goes thinking I'm a sexist pig for liking tits in a video game....ok, yeah, I am a sexist pig who likes tits in his video games, so sue me

Rave

Raven, I wish you would stop skirting topics and being vague and get to the point of what you believe!

I think I've found an idea for a new series of quests.

Now if only we could take control of our male offspring then the immersion factor would be that much greater.

Ok, I LIKE SEX IN VIDEO GAMES!!!

How's that Blaze?

I get the feeling you are holding back. You need to express yourself more, Raven...

I like that.

I'm still trying to figure out how wanting armor that conforms more to the shape of women (instead of everyone being a big block of flesh - forget breasts, where's the hips - or would "realistic armor not have hips either?) to "OMG I WANT SEXORZ WIMMENZ NAO!!111!!!1" Don't see where that leap took place.

And what does anime have to do with it?

I feel the same way.  I was mostly joking.  (though I'm serious about equally revealing clothing for males and females if they DO go that route.  except females are unfairly censored above the waists where men are not, so I expect men to wear less)

As long as it includes extra nipple protection as seen in these Darkfall Ork armor pics (we've got to think of the starving babies)

Ah, these kind of threads (usually on MMO forums) never cease to amaze me - just look how big they get. People REALLY care about image. Personally I tend to treat most games as fashion shows. Males and females are generally exagurated and sexualised (confidence being the main part of that) in their own gender specific ways. Males who have no real 'sexuality' (it was taken from them at somepoint I guess) have their strength and size instead. Females have thier curves. Thus sexy curvy females and big heavily armoured males. Size is important for defining the male 'sexuality'. I certainly don't fit that picture as a male (unfortunatly).

I would love to have both options avalible to both genders but when artists time is at a premium you have to take what you can afford so it usualy ends up just being the traditional exagurated stereotypes. I got bored of the big hulking males a long time ago (In Age of Conan I wanted nothing more than to run around on my Bear Shaman with nothing but a loin cloth or kilt on because it would really suit the character).

I also love it when people have the stones to really go to an extream (like TERA's castanic female armours - so well designed, amazing heels in every set with super detailed textures. Oh and lots and lots of skin or skin-tight material. Love it. The game probably sucks though.)

StarDock: thank you for NOT having "hot female army gear".  Not all of us hate women.