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Patch Time Frame

Patch Time Frame

So were supposed to atleast get one patch in septmeber that fixes magic and character creation.

But I say screw that, cant you all fix the end game slow down first and get a patch out ASAP, would rather have bugs squashed then content balanced

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Reply #101 Top

No you aren't.

Quoting divvu80, reply 100
Sorry, you just called peoples fanboys and nerds, but since you have such a low mental capacity, I can understand.

 

I'm actually a Psychologyst in R/L, and to answer your previuous post, since I am already working on the mental stability of other peoples I can't be bothered to work on yours too... You know, just one thing at a time!

Bye

lol no you aren't.

Reply #103 Top

Quoting divvu80, reply 102

Quoting solidsmooky, reply 101No you aren't.

lol no you aren't.

 

Illuminating!

 

I'm with him on this.  If you were in fact a "Psychologyst", you would probably know how to spell it.

 

 

EDIT: To the topic at hand, I really hope that FPS fix does boost an average of 15FPS... as that will bring me up to about... FPS.  On my laptop, with an Intel 3D GPU ( hey, it rates 4.7 on the performance index, so it should be more than enough ) gets about half a frame per second.  I basically consider that as broken as can be.  

Reply #104 Top

If you're having performance issues and an ATI card, here's what I did (and sorry for the lack of detail - I'm going on memory of last week):

  1. Move everything video related to their lowest settings
  2. THEN, if it's still a problem:
    • Open your Nvidia Graphics Control Panel
    • Go to CUSTOM settings for specific applications (probably an intermediary tab in this step)
    • Select your Elemental executable(s?) for the application in question
    • Go through the list and anything related to "performance" should be switched to whatever maximizes performance. 
      I ended up forcing about eight settings to bare minimums or Off or High Performance.

It's a sad thing to do to a game so pretty, but ... i like strategy games so, among other reasons, I can keep my computer cheap.  Action games are the ones that should demand big money in hardware.

My rig:

  • Windows XP SP2 (so I can keep playing MoM natively)
  • P4 2.4Ghz 512KB L2 cache
  • 4 G DDR (ie: PC3200)
  • Old, slow, mostly-full harddrives (in serial - no raid here)
  • Some BFG Tech Nvidia-based 6?00 ? that I can't upgrade because it's an AGP mobo.
  • Have not yet messed with the memory allocation limits due to the 32bit system.

The thing that chokes my system the most is moving large stacks of units into or out of other stacks.  I'd guess a memory algorithm, but, not my job.

The computer was fancy when I built it. The disk is barely the current bottleneck.  I'm seeing 90% utilization on one of the cores and a number of IOs, though the graphing options there aren't very extensive.  Seems I need to fix that with some rrdtool for... wait.

So.  That's what you do to make it run on a minimal system.

Reply #105 Top

One thing I am finding is on my main machine, which is MUCH more powerful than my notebook, it still performed horrible, I am talking 6 or 7 FPS, on a machine with an i7, 8 gigs ram and a Radeon 4650, this just shouldn't happen.  That said, I read elsewhere that someone set Thread Affinity to a single core and that did the trick exactly.

 

People say they are having trouble across higher end systems and I wonder if Elemental just doesn't play well with i7 processors.  The fact setting affinity to a single core ( effectively turning your machine into a single CPU machine ) fixes the problems leads me to believe thats the source of the problem.

 

To those that don't know how to set affinity, start Elemental then press CTRL+SHIFT+ESC ( or CTRL+ALT+DEL ->Task Manager ) to bring up the task manager, in the processes tab, find and right click Elemental.exe and choose Set Affinity... and select a single core.  

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Reply #106 Top

Quoting Serapth, reply 103

Quoting divvu80, reply 102
Quoting solidsmooky, reply 101No you aren't.


I'm with him on this.  If you were in fact a "Psychologyst", you would probably know how to spell it.

 

 

 

 

The possibility that I'm not an english speaker never passed trough your mind ;) ?

 

I'm Italian and english is my 3rd language

Reply #107 Top

Quoting divvu80, reply 106

Quoting Serapth, reply 103
Quoting divvu80, reply 102
Quoting solidsmooky, reply 101No you aren't.


I'm with him on this.  If you were in fact a "Psychologyst", you would probably know how to spell it.

 

 

 
 

The possibility that I'm not an english speaker never passed trough your mind ?

 

I'm Italian and english is my 3rd language

No one cares.

Reply #108 Top

Quoting solidsmooky, reply 107
No one cares.

Why don't you guys get a cozy little room in your PM box? :)

Reply #109 Top

To those that don't know how to set affinity, start Elemental then press CTRL+SHIFT+ESC ( or CTRL+ALT+DEL ->Task Manager ) to bring up the task manager, in the processes tab, find and right click Elemental.exe and choose Set Affinity... and select a single core.

That's a good tip - if I'm still having horrible performance issues after today's patch, I'll give this a go.  TY!

k1

Reply #110 Top

Quoting solidsmooky, reply 107



Quoting divvu80,
reply 106

Quoting Serapth, reply 103
Quoting divvu80, reply 102
Quoting solidsmooky, reply 101No you aren't.


I'm with him on this.  If you were in fact a "Psychologyst", you would probably know how to spell it.

 

 

 
 

The possibility that I'm not an english speaker never passed trough your mind ?

 

I'm Italian and english is my 3rd language


No one cares.

I'd actually say it's the other way around.

You popped in wanting them to avoid fixing the broken mechanics,  bugs,  and imbalances,  and instead focus on adding female models for no apparent reason.

You then fail to establish a dialogue when asked why you think this should take precedence,  and diverge to some attempt at speaking for everyone claiming "No one wants to hear what Div says".

I'm sorry,  but at this point,  I'd be happier if there were less of your posts in this thread.  At least Div attempts to establish dialogue instead of acting like a highschooler.

Reply #111 Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 109

To those that don't know how to set affinity, start Elemental then press CTRL+SHIFT+ESC ( or CTRL+ALT+DEL ->Task Manager ) to bring up the task manager, in the processes tab, find and right click Elemental.exe and choose Set Affinity... and select a single core.


That's a good tip - if I'm still having horrible performance issues after today's patch, I'll give this a go.  TY!


Only Stardock can speak on the subject for certain but...

I know Stardock likes to use threading to thread out the AI so that while you're taking your turn the AI plans it's next move,  in theory making for more challenging and efficient AI since most time in a Player's turn is wasted as far as the CPU goes.  The CPU could be doing usefull work while we humans spend seconds staring and contemplating,  Stardock likes to use that time efficiently.  They did it in GalCiv 1 & 2.

I'm guessing something in the AI thread is behaving badly,  and they haven't tracked it down yet,  so it's using more resources than it should.  Forcing Affinity probably turns off the threading.

If that's what it is,  it's a tricky bug to fix I'm sure.  Threading isn't easy to bug-hunt.  But they'll get it I'm sure.

Reply #112 Top

If you are, you are bad at your job, among other things, like shpeelings and gramars.

Reply #113 Top

I'm closing this thread to cut off the personal arguments here, there's really no need for them.

For those who wish to continue discussing performance issues, please direct your feedback to the running thread on the subject.