Dynasties Between Factions

Hello Everyone,

I'm having trouble understanding how dynasties between factions work, specifically how children are supposed to be born between the arranged marriages.  In my current game, I have two arranged marriages with another faction, but after 50+ turns I've yet to see any children be born to either couple.  I've tried hunting down the spouses on the world map to see if the two halves of the couple need to be in the same general vicinity as each other (such as with my avatar and his wife).  I couldn't find either of them.  The in-game encyclopedia was mum, as was the manual. 

 Does anyone know how this is supposed to work?  Do babies automatically spawn without the couple having to be near each other?  Does the arranged spouse become a hidden NPC in your faction or something?  Or do children only happen when someone assumes the throne?

Any insight would be appreciated!

allos autos

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AFAIK children have a small random chance to be born to any marriage after it's made. Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.

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Ah the old

Quoting kryo, reply 1
AFAIK children have a small random chance to be born to any marriage after it's made. Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.

 

Ah the old "A Wizard did it" excuse.

 

"Wait a second I was away for 5 years why do we have 3 children now?"

"Ummm Magic?"

"Ah okay then"

 

Mean while tutorial guy is hiding in the broom closet.

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Quoting Akitoscorpio, reply 2
Ah the old
Quoting kryo, reply 1AFAIK children have a small random chance to be born to any marriage after it's made. Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.

 

Ah the old "A Wizard did it" excuse.

 

"Wait a second I was away for 5 years why do we have 3 children now?"

"Ummm Magic?"

"Ah okay then"

 

Mean while tutorial guy is hiding in the broom closet.

 

The idea of Janusk as a cuckold made me laugh out loud.

 

In all seriousness though, I recall that a strategy game from the nineties, Genghis Khan, that required the player's leader to spend time with his wife in order to have a chance to have children...

 

Reply #4 Top

Similarly, I have a question regarding children.  In a couple of games, I have had several children "come of age" yet I was unable to control them.  From my understanding, children who reach adults can become playable characters.  Or are they merely there for marriage purposes?

Also, there is a small bug where children do not age at the same rate at adults.  I understand this is probably intended, but I found it odd that I had 21 year old son when my main character was 26.

 

o_O

Reply #5 Top

Quoting clockwerk, reply 4
Similarly, I have a question regarding children.  In a couple of games, I have had several children "come of age" yet I am unable to control them.  From my understanding, children who reach adults can become playable characters.  Or are they merely there for marriage purposes?

Also, there is a small bug where children do not age at the same rate at adults.  I understand this is probably intended, but I found it odd that I had 21 year old son when my main character was 26.

 

 

Sovereigns age slower apparently.

Reply #6 Top

Quoting Akitoscorpio, reply 2
Ah the old
Quoting kryo, reply 1AFAIK children have a small random chance to be born to any marriage after it's made. Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.
 

Ah the old "A Wizard did it" excuse.

 

"Wait a second I was away for 5 years why do we have 3 children now?"

"Ummm Magic?"

"Ah okay then"

 

This is why I always play a woman sovereign and just marry the first bloke I run into. Makes far more sense ;)

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Quoting Akitoscorpio, reply 2

Quoting kryo, reply 1AFAIK children have a small random chance to be born to any marriage after it's made. Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.

 

Ah the old "A Wizard did it" excuse.

 

"Wait a second I was away for 5 years why do we have 3 children now?"

"Ummm Magic?"

"Ah okay then"

 

Mean while tutorial guy is hiding in the broom closet.


I literally laughed out loud. +1 from me.

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Here's what the manual has to say on it...not sure if anything has changed with the Day 0 patch.

 

Dynasties
As the sovereign of your Kingdom (or Empire) you will have the opportunity to get married
and have children. In time, these children will grow up and potentially become great heroes
for you to call on. Alternatively, players can marry their children off to other factions in
exchange for an ongoing dowry (money per turn), a relationship bonus, and a place in the
line of succession in that faction. Moreover, the offspring of those children may return to you
as adults to join your faction.
If your child is joining another faction’s family, the offspring of that union are far more
likely to join your faction as adults.

Getting Married
Getting married is not as easy as one might expect for the sovereign of a Kingdom
or Empire. This is because, at the start, your faction is not very impressive.
On the Kingdom Status screen, players can view their current reputation.
The potential spouses that are likely to provide the most powerful offspring will
require higher reputations than those who are less picky, with more middling
abilities for future children.

As you see, there is a chance that children will grow up to become a hero. Dev's is this still accurate?

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Quoting kryo, reply 1
Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.

 

Do we still have to be a different gender, or is that optional?

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Quoting Sathar, reply 9
Quoting kryo, reply 1Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.

 

Do we still have to be a different gender, or is that optional?

 

As a matter of fact, that is a very good idea. Why don't we have homosexual sovereigns?

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Quoting db0, reply 10

Quoting Sathar, reply 9Quoting kryo, reply 1Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.

 

Do we still have to be a different gender, or is that optional?
 

As a matter of fact, that is a very good idea. Why don't we have homosexual sovereigns?

How exactly are they going to have kids and form a dynasty?

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Quoting Slainangel52, reply 11

Quoting db0, reply 10
Quoting Sathar, reply 9Quoting kryo, reply 1Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.

 

Do we still have to be a different gender, or is that optional?
 

As a matter of fact, that is a very good idea. Why don't we have homosexual sovereigns?

How exactly are they going to have kids and form a dynasty?


Magic.

 

 

 

(Or, alternatively, adoption.)

Reply #13 Top

Quoting Slainangel52, reply 11

Quoting db0, reply 10
Quoting Sathar, reply 9Quoting kryo, reply 1Being a wizard and all you need not be in the same tile to procreate.

 

Do we still have to be a different gender, or is that optional?
 

As a matter of fact, that is a very good idea. Why don't we have homosexual sovereigns?
How exactly are they going to have kids and form a dynasty?

 

Actually, when you try to create arranged same-sex marriages with another sovereign, the sovereign says something like "How do we expect to get children out of this?!"

Elemental actually does have arranged marriages done fairly well, from a historical perspective.  In feudal/monarchical societies, marriages that did not produce children were looked down upon since they did not further succession for the nobility.  Succession largely meant keeping power within the family.

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Since you lose if you die, does line of succession even matter?

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Quoting loialarent, reply 14
Since you lose if you die, does line of succession even matter?

 

If you marry your children into another nation and the leader dies your child is in the line of succession so you inherit the kingdom when it gets to them I believe.

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lol i don't understand why "Wizard did it" is not a fitting answer! They have teleport spells >.> and apparently know whats going on everywhere in the kingdom at every given time...

Sooooo

"teleports tobed chamber, oh noes we's been ambushed! /teleports back"

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Quoting db0, reply 10

Do we still have to be a different gender, or is that optional?
 

As a matter of fact, that is a very good idea. Why don't we have homosexual sovereigns?

You guys missed that discussion and rage. Go mod it :P

Ah the old "A Wizard did it" excuse.



"Wait a second I was away for 5 years why do we have 3 children now?"

"Ummm Magic?"

"Ah okay then"



Mean while tutorial guy is hiding in the broom closet.

lol, I REALLY hate Janusk now.

I don't like the whole "wizard did it excuse". I do think that the character should be within 1-2 tiles for them to be able to make children. Hell, a couple of my sovereigns don't really even use magic.

Quoting slider609, reply 8

As you see, there is a chance that children will grow up to become a hero. Dev's is this still accurate?

YOUR children ALWAYS grow up into a hero once they reach the proper age. idk about other kingdom's heroes through marriages though. And your children can be any assortment of heroes, good or bad.

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Quoting James009D, reply 17

Quoting db0, reply 10
Do we still have to be a different gender, or is that optional?
 

As a matter of fact, that is a very good idea. Why don't we have homosexual sovereigns?

You guys missed that discussion and rage. Go mod it
Ah the old "A Wizard did it" excuse.



"Wait a second I was away for 5 years why do we have 3 children now?"

"Ummm Magic?"

"Ah okay then"



Mean while tutorial guy is hiding in the broom closet.
lol, I REALLY hate Janusk now.

I don't like the whole "wizard did it excuse". I do think that the character should be within 1-2 tiles for them to be able to make children. Hell, a couple of my sovereigns don't really even use magic.

Quoting slider609, reply 8

As you see, there is a chance that children will grow up to become a hero. Dev's is this still accurate?

YOUR children ALWAYS grow up into a hero once they reach the proper age. idk about other kingdom's heroes through marriages though. And your children can be any assortment of heroes, good or bad.

 

It felt oddly heart breaking to have to kill two of my own Granddaughters since they joined the otherside in one game, I was nice and made it quick, just a large explosion and they were gone.

 

That was an awkward talk with my son to say the least.

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Quoting James009D, reply 17

YOUR children ALWAYS grow up into a hero once they reach the proper age. idk about other kingdom's heroes through marriages though. And your children can be any assortment of heroes, good or bad.

Hrm.  Mine didn't last night.  I had one child who was 21+.  Her portrait was not a normal, in-game rendered portrait and I was unable to control her.  When I married another child off, his portrait changed to a rendered portrait but I was unable to control him.  I'm probably doing something wrong.

x_x

Reply #20 Top

What determines a childs stats?

Is it as totally random as it appears?  I have had about 100 kids in the games I have played so far, most of them with the first female NPC I could find and most of them were much weaker then either parent.  If I keep leveling the mother along with my soveregn the children seem to have a slightly better chance of good to average stats but waiting to marry until the female NPC gets to level 10 or so seems to increase the chance of powerful children a LOT more then leveling the mother up after we marry.

Thanks,

Sammual 

Reply #21 Top

Quoting clockwerk, reply 19

I had one child who was 21+.  Her portrait was not a normal, in-game rendered portrait and I was unable to control her.  When I married another child off, his portrait changed to a rendered portrait but I was unable to control him.  I'm probably doing something wrong.

When you have a marriage through another kingdom, the children can grow up to be their heroes, too, which means you don't control them, the other kingdom does.

Reply #22 Top

really, competitive multiplayer means all players will play as Females for the quicker marriages.

Reply #23 Top

Is there a way to marry inside your own kingdom? So if I don't want to lose my daughter to my neighbor, can I marry her to one of my champions instead?

Reply #24 Top

Quoting awuffleablehedgie, reply 22
really, competitive multiplayer means all players will play as Females for the quicker marriages.

I was thinking the same thing... Which is why male sovereigns should get slightly higher stats IMO...

Reply #25 Top

Quoting awuffleablehedgie, reply 22
really, competitive multiplayer means all players will play as Females for the quicker marriages.

I don't follow. Female sovs don't really have an advantage now that Janusk won't marry until after a certain prestige level. I find about 50/50 male/female heroes out there. It's really a shot in the dark.