Lantec Lantec

How's that "change" working for ya?

How's that "change" working for ya?

Looking for some insights

I'm looking for the US citizens (illegal aliens are OK too) that want to share their story of how things have "changed" for them in the last 19 months.....

Mine....I guess the biggest thing for me is that at the end of May I closed a business I started in 1990. I did everything I could to protect the 10 employees I had. It's hard having to tell someone that they'll just have to find some other way to shelter and feed their family. The worst of it came when I had to let go my brother-in-law.......you can imagine how good family relations were after that. I tried to take advantage of the "stimulus" but since I wasn't in banking or car sales and I didn't have union labor I was pretty much shit-outta-luck.

So......with my savings gone and my business closed I'm pretty much starting over. I'm going to keep plugging away because I only know how to work. I can't see collecting unemployment even if it means bagging groceries like I did at 15. What keeps me up at night is wondering if I can manage to make enough to pay my family's part of the overwhelming national debt.

Feel free to add your story of "Change you can believe in"

ps....I believe.....I really believe

 

 

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Reply #51 Top

You CONservatives don't tolerate many things, even freedom of speech, Hankers .... No wonder American is in such poor shape. It is because of those like you... I'm more of a patriot than you and I'm not even American.

Reply #53 Top

It never seems to fail that no matter what the topic of discussion one's opinion is always in danger of being irrelevant.  That, by the way always seem to be based upon the opposing opinion.  :-"

Reply #54 Top

Finally, it's scharchuk. Learn to spell words that are right in front of you.

Reply #55 Top

Quoting scharchuk, reply 51
You CONservatives don't tolerate many things, even freedom of speech, Hankers .... No wonder American is in such poor shape. It is because of those like you... I'm more of a patriot than you and I'm not even American.

I maybe wrong, but I don't think Hankers is American.  :O

Reply #56 Top

scharchuk

FYI, I am also a Canadian.  Freedom of speech does not include making personal attacks.  You have a right as anyone else here to give your opinion (right or wrong) but you need to refrain from any personal attacks.

Reply #57 Top

Well, bowl me over, he's Canadian as well. Must be a CONservative. Sure sounds and acts American. :)

 

The Wannabes are a real danger up here as well. Luckily we got them neutered by our democratic 5 party system. One  no confidence vote and they're gone. :)

Reply #58 Top

Tell your momma that, she might care. Again, learn to spell words that are right in front of you. Take that up and will truly prove that you are an idiot.

Reply #59 Top

Making fun of my name is just as much a "personal" attack as anything I may say.

Reply #60 Top

'Freedom is truly lost when an opposing opinion or view point is not allowed to be recognized'. 

Why is that you ask, well, we all can't be right all of the time.  :S

Reply #61 Top

Personal attacks?  I'm not surprised.

Although, most typical.

Reply #62 Top

It must be working. After the Wife and I get paid from our two minimum wage jobs ( almost all of the RV industry along with my careeer in RV repair is in the toilet) and pay our bills, that's what we have left......change.>:(

Reply #64 Top

Weren't the vast majority of new jobs created during the Reagan/Bush Reign in the service sector at or below minimum wage? That many of your good paying jobs were either Outsourced overseas or "insourced" to much cheaper H-1b Visas. The high cost of tax cuts and deregulation. Its going to take years to clean up your country's economic mess. The mess in the Gulf (Also caused by deregulation.)  will probably be cleaned up long before it........

Reply #65 Top

Seems this thread morphed from how ya doing now to a political thread.

1.  Lincoln freed the slaves but the afro americans like the democrates

2.  Kennedy started Viet Nam but Nixon takes the heat for it.

3.  Bush put us in debt even though congress approved or disaproved the money(democraticly controlled)

4.  Bush started the was in Irac even though congress approved it (democraticly controlled).

I could go on and on but whats the use, Bush did it, not Obama with his democraticly controlled congress(who approves the money).

By the way, I never voted for Bush as Texas Governer or for President.  So don't try laying you love Bush crap on me.  I can read, see and have experienced shit for many years.

Reply #66 Top

I never expect change to come from the Federal government.  I do expect leadership and in the last 19 months I've not seen that.

I'm still mostly unemployed and working contract gigs.  I still can't afford self-funded healthcare.

I'm still working on change at the local level here in the Detroit-metro area.  Last week I helped build a playground for a school that's being reopened after years of neglect.  I'm buying more goods from people I know.  I'm spending more time with neighbors.

I continue to hope that my elected officials are honestly doing what they think is best (no matter how much I disagree with their choices or how ineffective it ends up being).

In the past 19 months I've become more saddened by young people thinking that the government is the only solution to our country's problems and disillusioned when it fails to solve them.

In the past 19 months I've had many teachable moments with my kids; explaining why things are hard right now and what they'll be able to do to create real change and hope.

 

I believe things will get better.  I know that I'm going to be able to say I was a part of that.

 

By the way . . can you spare some change?

Reply #67 Top

I want to start a new movement in the U.S., one where everyone is included, none of this divide up the country into Blue and Red States anymore, no special interest groups seeking favors for votes. 

What do all of you think, does it have a chance?

Oh, and wine and cheese will not be served. :O :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Reply #68 Top

Lantec, the depreciation in the dollar due to our debts was incurred over 8 years of Bush tax cuts (which forced us to borrow from the Chinese just to pay for the day to day operation of our own country!), one unnecessary war for oil and vanity (which took our eyes off the real enemy long enough for them to regroup, costing us even more money in that arguably necessary police action), and an unregulated wall street/housing gambling "casino" run amok.

It took 8 years to take us from the surpluses at the end of the Clinton years to debts that were beyond our wildest dreams...in a time of prosperity mind you.

It's going to take years, if not decades, to undo that damage.

Over the past two years, the only reason anyone was spending any money at all on anything was there remained a glimmer of hope (because of the measured, prudent, and stabilizing policies of the current administration) that kept us just shy of worldwide catastrophe. If the insanity of the Bush years had continued under McCain, no one would have been able to spend any money on anything at all, and there's a damn good chance that your company might have gone out of business a lot sooner than it did.

I'm sorry for the tough turn things have taken for you, but for anyone to believe that any one man can undo the wholesale worldwide raping and pillaging of the Bush years in so short a time is quite patently absurd.

But all that aside, as a fellow businessman, I sincerely wish the best of luck to you, yours, and whatever your next entrepreneurial venture may be.

      It's a really sad thing to say, tragic even, and if it weren't true damn near laughable. To think all those who were in favor of Bush and wanted to put McCain right on up there to continue the insanity...we'd be sitting in a police state right now or close to it. As for change...I was two microns away from getting out of my predicament when November 2009 happened. The economy crashed, the world came to the brink of bankruptcy and here I am...right back to square one. Kudos to all the asinine idiots on wall street.

Reply #69 Top

I want to start a new movement in the U.S., one where everyone is included, none of this divide up the country into Blue and Red States anymore, no special interest groups seeking favors for votes.

May have a chance after we give this great land of ours a BIG ENIMA!

Reply #70 Top

we'd be sitting in a police state right now or close to it.
We're closer now than we have ever been before.  The gov't in more involved in the private lives of American people and corporations now than any time before.  And each time it's allowed it gets easier for the next step.

Reply #71 Top

We're closer now than we have ever been before. The gov't in more involved in the private lives of American people and corporations now than any time before. And each time it's allowed it gets easier for the next step.

Now thats a fact.  I think if things don't change real soon we'll have martial law or be a police state, our rights being lost more each day.  Thats why I wanted K Baily Hutchson as governer of Texas, I think she would have moved to cecede.  Damn Perry doesn't have the balls.

Reply #72 Top

Quoting Hankers, reply 71

We're closer now than we have ever been before. The gov't in more involved in the private lives of American people and corporations now than any time before. And each time it's allowed it gets easier for the next step.

Now thats a fact.  I think if things don't change real soon we'll have martial law or be a police state, our rights being lost more each day.  Thats why I wanted K Baily Hutchson as governer of Texas, I think she would have moved to cecede.  Damn Perry doesn't have the balls.

 

I think he has the balls, but wants to be President of the US one day ;)))))))))))))))))))

Reply #73 Top

We're closer now than we have ever been before. The gov't in more involved in the private lives of American people and corporations now than any time before. And each time it's allowed it gets easier for the next step.

Honestly I think that's a direct result of the people demanding to be "safe", at any cost.

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Reply #74 Top

We're closer now than we have ever been before.

 

direct copy from the White House Blog...August 4, 2009 (we need you to rat out the dissenters) I think the first paragraph must've been a miss-quote given what we know now.

For the record, the President has consistently said that if you like your insurance plan, your doctor, or both, you will be able to keep them. He has even proposed eight consumer protections relating specifically to the health insurance industry.
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to [email protected].
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Here is the hope and change you are looking for.
The economy will improve instantly if
the republicans do well in November.
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