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Sigh... you had me

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You had me, when I read about Elemental's planned features

You had me, when I learned about this "MoM reimagining"

You had me, when I knew about the feedback-driven development

You had me, when I read about the continuous improvements made on released software

You had me, when I saw the result of the art direction choices

 

And then you LOST me..

when I saw the details about the activation procedure.

Sorry guys, this is just wrong.

I know piracy is a big issue and all, but such requirements only encourage it, imho.

If I buy something, I want to be able to do what I want with it (except reproducing it, of course).

If I have an obsessive relationship with the whole OS-reinizialization thing, I don't want to DEPEND on the company's kindness every time I intend to re-use something I already own.

I still have MoM, and I tell you, years and years later I DO NOT have to contact and BEG some non-existent company to activate it and play it, since I can do as I please with it.

Too bad really. I was on my way to recharge my prepaid card (which is something I don't use very often really). :(

Then again, if you implement Nightshade as a terrain bonus, I guess I could capitulate, but that doesn't change my point. You were pitch perfect until that last detail, which is utterly unfair to the customer (at least one like me)

 

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Reply #101 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Tridus, reply 99

Yeah, that was Sigil. But Vanguard bombed so badly that I'm not sure it was a surprise to anybody there.

I wonder if Vanguard has any free servers? Vanguard as a game by its-self was awesome. I loved it for the short while I played it. As far as game-play and options and what you could do in the world it-self went it was the closest thing I've found to old school UO. I was really hoping it would have done well. It's way better than WoW if you ask me.

Reply #102 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Annatar11, reply 101

Let not your heart be troubled;

Zubaz is Galadriel now? Must've been a costly operation.

http://tinyurl.com/2cja5l5

Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #104 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Raven, reply 102

Quoting Tridus, reply 99
Yeah, that was Sigil. But Vanguard bombed so badly that I'm not sure it was a surprise to anybody there.


I wonder if Vanguard has any free servers? Vanguard as a game by its-self was awesome. I loved it for the short while I played it. As far as game-play and options and what you could do in the world it-self went it was the closest thing I've found to old school UO. I was really hoping it would have done well. It's way better than WoW if you ask me.

 

If you read the after action reports, they only had 1!!! person doing QA for the game.

Talk about, not supporting the game... And yet I enjoyed playing as a Orc Monk. Had a LOT of fun with it too.. right up until I feigned death while in the orc castle, and fell through the earth.. and down into a VERY long fall.. and then died there.

And had it happen again in the same castle area, but in a different spot. Yeah.. that's when I cancelled my account, and refused to pay them to further beta test their game.

Either get it right up front and out of the gate, or don't, but don't expect me to continue to pay you for that pile of feces that if it had been supported would of been a very good game. But alas... Brad McQuaid apparently doesn't know how to manage a game other than making it hard. 

Which makes me happy here, because Brad cares about not only his game, but the business behind it. That's a great thing.

Reply #105 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Nesrie, reply 98

All I am saying is I understand the fear because I've encountered the problem. I look at some of my old games that i throw into my machine and realize that if these companies did what the companies do today, none of my games woudl work because they are all gone, and that sucks. I've loaded up a game and got unplayable lag because even though the company is still in existence all the servers for multiplayer are located in Germany now, servers that were forced on gamers just to avoid pirach, the move of course not working.

 

Most of my old games can't even run on my PC. They either don't like XP or they run WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too fast, or a bunch of other problems. Heck, most of those games from 20+ years ago were on 5 1/4 " disks. Good luck finding one of those on a modern machine.

I mean if I tried to play World of Xeen right now, it wouldn't work. Not because New World Computing doesn't exist - but because the game would look at this "XP" thing and be like WTF? It would look at DirectSound and say "huh? Where's the Dos drivers?"

I mean, I can't play Archon if I wanted to (and I STILL have that insert that tells you the strength of the pieces). Not because the company is dead - but...umm...you got DOS 3.1 and a 5 1/4 inch drive that takes USB I can borrow? :)

I guess I don't understand the fears because I just don't have fears about my games. I know they will one day not work - and for $50 the use (abuse?) I'll have gotten out of them will be more than worth the price if I broke it down into a per hour, or whatever cost, so if they don't work in 4 years - I'll have my $50 (or 70 in LE Elemental's case) worth and move on with whatever current gen tech is in 4+ years from now.

Reply #106 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting VR_IronMana, reply 106



Quoting Nesrie,
reply 98

All I am saying is I understand the fear because I've encountered the problem. I look at some of my old games that i throw into my machine and realize that if these companies did what the companies do today, none of my games woudl work because they are all gone, and that sucks. I've loaded up a game and got unplayable lag because even though the company is still in existence all the servers for multiplayer are located in Germany now, servers that were forced on gamers just to avoid pirach, the move of course not working.



 

Most of my old games can't even run on my PC. They either don't like XP or they run WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too fast, or a bunch of other problems. Heck, most of those games from 20+ years ago were on 5 1/4 " disks. Good luck finding one of those on a modern machine.

I mean if I tried to play World of Xeen right now, it wouldn't work. Not because New World Computing doesn't exist - but because the game would look at this "XP" thing and be like WTF? It would look at DirectSound and say "huh? Where's the Dos drivers?"

I mean, I can't play Archon if I wanted to (and I STILL have that insert that tells you the strength of the pieces). Not because the company is dead - but...umm...you go DOS 3.1 and a 5 1/4 inch drive that takes USB I can borrow?

DOSbox has it all covered. You can play all those old games. If they had the kind of copy protection that you see today, you would *not* be able to play them.

And don't worry about the disks...http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/482/Might+and+Magic+IV+and+V+-+World+Of+Xeen.html

Reply #107 from Elemental Forums Top

Don't worry if Stardock goes the way of some other classic game companies you can always buy another copy from GOG.com or it's equivalent in 2025.

Reply #108 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Raven, reply 102

I wonder if Vanguard has any free servers? Vanguard as a game by its-self was awesome. I loved it for the short while I played it. As far as game-play and options and what you could do in the world it-self went it was the closest thing I've found to old school UO. I was really hoping it would have done well. It's way better than WoW if you ask me.

Don't know. Sony bought it and it's still up and running. It mostly bombed due to poor QA and having absurdly high system requirements at release (which isn't a problem now that it's several years later). It wasn't playable on my computer at the time, on which something like WoW flew without trouble.

Obviously, the game I can run will get more of my money then the game I can't run.

Reply #109 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Nesrie, reply 92

Heh, not like weird things ever happen like that right? Not as if Sigil employees got their pink slips in the parking lot or anything (pretty sure it was Sigil).

I'm pretty sure that when Sigil was purchased by Sony, Brad knew in advance that it would happen. He was the one selling the company, after all.

Likewise if Stardock were to go bankrupt or be sold to another company, Brad would know about it far in advance because he owns the company. The similarities between the two situations would be uncanny. I mean, the companies' names even start with the same letter!

Reply #110 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting cephalo, reply 107


DOSbox has it all covered. You can play all those old games. If they had the kind of copy protection that you see today, you would *not* be able to play them.

And don't worry about the disks...http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/482/Might+and+Magic+IV+and+V+-+World+Of+Xeen.html

 

Exactly.

As I said earlier, an OS can survive for a very long time.

Reply #111 from Elemental Forums Top

Seriously you only need impulse to update. Nothing else and it is not necessary to play.