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Reply #1376 Top

Quoting Xer07, reply 1374
Ifear: Can you take the questionnaire?

1: Which half is normal and which is wierd?   |

2: Which half are you a part of?   |

3: Why do you think that the halves are seperate in the first place?

Xer0 \^/
End of Xer07's quote

1: Normal connotes conformity and lack of difference, therefore the left side (damn commies) is normal.

2: this half: *_* 8| :ninja: :( (\B):vulcan:(\B) ;) :meow: :cylon:

3: I don't have the patience to type the tragically ironic story.

Reply #1377 Top

Quoting Xer07, reply 1374
Ifear: Can you take the questionnaire?

1: Which half is normal and which is wierd?   |

2: Which half are you a part of?   |

3: Why do you think that the halves are seperate in the first place?

Xer0 \^/
End of Xer07's quote

I dont get the point of this, its just a bunch of smilies after all, but for the heck of it, I'll answer:

1. The first part is normal, the 2nd is weird.

2. I am part of :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

3. The parts are separate in the first place, because you had too much to drink, and you are trying to mess with us :grin:

Reply #1378 Top

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 1366

I never answered this before, I actually didn't notice it. I'm not sure why it would list them as "Blood Marines"; you are probably referring to a specific chapter of Space Marines. I'm guessing Blood Ravens (featured in the Dawn of War games) or the Blood Angels.
End of Whiskey144's quote

Actually I may have been wrong about the name "Blood Marines". Like you said, it could have been "Blood Ravens" or "Blood Angels". As I have only played Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, (Btw, 1 of the BEST RTS I have ever played, I suggest everyone tries it.), I remember clearly, a race of Marines, with red space suits, a bloodthirsty leader, and the name "Blood" and something else, I think it could have been Blood Marines, am I wrong? Sorry but its a long time since I played Dawn of War, and you just made me wanna install right now :)  

I have finished the DoW Dark Crusade campaign 2 times, but never played the game online. What other DoW games are you suggesting? Also, I have read some very negative comments about Dawn of War 2. What is your opinion?

Btw, I am only familiar with the Warhammer 40k Dawn of War series, I suppose there were older WH 40k games?

 

About the whole topic I started, regarding human beings:

Everything I wanted to say, I did so. Whiskey, I am sorry, but you only believe what you want to believe, and you cant even consider different views but your own.

People spend hundreds of hours every month for their own entertainment, watching movies, play sports games etc etc, and they dont devote 1 of these hours for something that is about our own survival, regarding all of humankind, something that lists facts and truths, not speculations, not hypothesis, but facts. You dont have to agree with speculations and ideas about the future, but the facts about the present, are real, whether you like it or not.

How many of you here have watched the zeitgeist movie? Answer: None.

But thats all fine, because remember:

"Thats what they have been taught, and they dont want to think differently, they are loyal to the system, and they will FIGHT to protect it."

p.s. Sorry for double post.

Reply #1379 Top

Quoting GM-morpheas768, reply 1378



Btw, I am only familiar with the Warhammer 40k Dawn of War series, I suppose there were older WH 40k games?
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End of GM-morpheas768's quote

go here

www.games-workshop.com

Reply #1380 Top

Quoting Ryat, reply 1379

Quoting GM-morpheas768, reply 1378


Btw, I am only familiar with the Warhammer 40k Dawn of War series, I suppose there were older WH 40k games?
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go here

www.games-workshop.com
End of Ryat's quote

Umm....this site is about board games..... >_>

Reply #1381 Top

exactly, its what Warhammer 40K started out as, had a ton of fun playing it when I was younger and had money to spend on it

thats also were a lot of the lore for the Dawn of War series came from

Reply #1382 Top

And Morpheas? Despite those negative comments on DoW2 (not that I've found any) it's still a good game. It's also the only RTS that has tried to change the formula of its series and succeeded recently. Yeah, it's different to the first DoW and its expansion, but that doesn't stop new from being good (except for the case of C&C4. Why do you change everything for the last game in a series?)

Reply #1383 Top

Quoting Ryat, reply 1381
exactly, its what Warhammer 40K started out as, had a ton of fun playing it when I was younger and had money to spend on it

thats also were a lot of the lore for the Dawn of War series came from
End of Ryat's quote

Yeah I know, I was asking about Warhammer 40k PC games only. But no matter, I searched in GameSpot, and found that Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War was the start of it all. It was a very good game, and it started the whole series. There were no other WH 40k games before that.

Reply #1384 Top

Quoting Alpha_003_Snipe, reply 1382
And Morpheas? Despite those negative comments on DoW2 (not that I've found any) it's still a good game. It's also the only RTS that has tried to change the formula of its series and succeeded recently. Yeah, it's different to the first DoW and its expansion, but that doesn't stop new from being good (except for the case of C&C4. Why do you change everything for the last game in a series?)
End of Alpha_003_Snipe's quote

Oh, dont let me get started on C&C 4. The biggest FAIL of PC games in 2010. Its like having a delicious chocolate cake, and then go throw some bits of pork on top of the hot chocolate. Pork is fine, but not with a chocolate cake, it would be gross together. Now why would someone want to screw up something so good?

So, would you suggest DoW 2? Ah nevermind, I'll check the GameSpot review ;)

Reply #1385 Top

If can provide a little more insight on the game I think I may try it after all the good things I havr heard about it

Reply #1386 Top

GameSpot has given it a score of 8.5 (great). And usually, I trust their reviews ;)

Reply #1387 Top

Me too. But there have been a few times where they gave games I loved negative reviews.

Reply #1388 Top

@morph- 1. Without GW, 40k would not exist. Thus, we would not be able to say "FOR THE EMPEROR!!!"

2. Blood Ravens is the featured chapter in the campaigns of all Dawn of War games EXCEPT for Winter Assault; WA features Guard/Eldar (with Ultramarines as NPC allies) for the "Order" campaign, and Chaos/Orks for the Disorder campaign.

3. DoW vanilla and the WA xpack have linear campaigns, not the meta-map of DC.

4. DoW2 is good, but requires Steam; it's different from DoW1 but still good.

 

"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war..."

Reply #1389 Top

haha you forgot your sig

lol

Reply #1390 Top

Quoting Altaux, reply 1389
haha you forgot your sig

lol
End of Altaux's quote

What are you talking about?

@morph- in regards to the discussion of the previous pages, you DO bring up some very good points; however, man just isn't going to unite unfortunately. It's also not that I won't consider any other views other than my own, it's that most other views that are opposed to mine are completely ridiculous (at least IMO). Additionally, I live in America; this isn't important on it's own, but because of my beliefs and the "respect the minorities beliefs/rights" mentality of America at this point in history, my beliefs get shafted so that the homos and the Jihadists can freely practice whatever the hell they want.

Isn't that just a bunch of BS? Quite frankly, the current state of America right now disgusts me; I do agree with you that a culture without money can succeed just as well as one with, but I'm not sure if you know why money was created. Money was created so that people could trade more easily; before money it was a barter system, but then there's the problem of "how am I going to transport all my new goats?"

 

"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war..."

Reply #1391 Top

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 1388
@morph- 1. Without GW, 40k would not exist. Thus, we would not be able to say "FOR THE EMPEROR!!!"

2. Blood Ravens is the featured chapter in the campaigns of all Dawn of War games EXCEPT for Winter Assault; WA features Guard/Eldar (with Ultramarines as NPC allies) for the "Order" campaign, and Chaos/Orks for the Disorder campaign.

3. DoW vanilla and the WA xpack have linear campaigns, not the meta-map of DC.

4. DoW2 is good, but requires Steam; it's different from DoW1 but still good.

 

"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war..."
End of Whiskey144's quote

1. He he, good point :thumbsup:

2. Ah ok. But they have red armor in all DoW, or just in Dark Crusade?

3. I really enjoyed DC though, one of the best RTS I ever played.

Which one do you think has the best campaign? DoW, DoW WA, DoW DC or DoW SoulStorm? (Just their campaign part)

Reply #1392 Top

In terms of having a story: The original.

Tell you which one is best for spoofs: Soulstorm.

How are the Men?

Metal Boxes (This one is all one unedited piece of script from a cutscene. No random Youtube Poop thrown in)

We have Failed the Emperor

Blood Ravens Rebellion

Where would you be without sad people like me?

 

"Am I insane? Have I crossed the line? That's a good question, let's ask your friends. Oh wait, I murdered them!"

Villain

Reply #1393 Top

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 1390


@morph- in regards to the discussion of the previous pages, you DO bring up some very good points; however, man just isn't going to unite unfortunately. It's also not that I won't consider any other views other than my own, it's that most other views that are opposed to mine are completely ridiculous (at least IMO). Additionally, I live in America; this isn't important on it's own, but because of my beliefs and the "respect the minorities beliefs/rights" mentality of America at this point in history, my beliefs get shafted so that the homos and the Jihadists can freely practice whatever the hell they want.

Isn't that just a bunch of BS? Quite frankly, the current state of America right now disgusts me; I do agree with you that a culture without money can succeed just as well as one with, but I'm not sure if you know why money was created. Money was created so that people could trade more easily; before money it was a barter system, but then there's the problem of "how am I going to transport all my new goats?"
End of Whiskey144's quote

"my beliefs get shafted so that the homos and the Jihadists can freely practice whatever the hell they want."     ....huh? :|

"Quite frankly, the current state of America right now disgusts me;" Yeah, same here.

I am not sure that you understand what the Venus project is about. Have you read it? I guess not....sigh. Ok. Imagine a world with no money, no goverments, no religion institutions, no organizations, no companies, no prisons, no military, none of this. Also, all the earth's resources, and land, declared ALL of the people's heritage, all material things are shared, and people dont "work", but rather spend their time creatively doing things they want, like research, resource management, systems monitoring, etc. The term "ownership" is completely and utterly annihilated, and human beings do not claim ownership in anything. People can travel and see the whole world, living wherever the hell they want, either with other people, or alone. Basically, true freedom and unlimited rights for everyone.

I cant describe everything to you, but if you want specifics on the Venus project, just follow the link I posted, but please, dont jump to conclusions when you havent gotten the time to learn more about the whole concept.

Reply #1394 Top

Unlimited rights... The right to take what you want, to do what you want, and not to be stopped. You need something to enforce rules that stop murder and theft surely? Then you have a symbol of authority, which is either followed or opposed, creating a form of unity, I suppose, but sort of going against the point of the project.

Without a symbol of authority, you have anarchy. If a vote is taken without some kind of police force to enforce the final decision, people who disagree will still do what they want. If I'm missing something, please tell me. I just don't see how humanity and this project are compatible.

 

"I can be your villain baby. I'll accentuate your pain. I will torture you forever. I'll take your breath away."

Villain

Reply #1395 Top

Quoting GM-morpheas768, reply 1377



Quoting Xer07,
reply 1374
Ifear: Can you take the questionnaire?

1: Which half is normal and which is wierd?   |

2: Which half are you a part of?   |

3: Why do you think that the halves are seperate in the first place?

Xer0 \^/


I dont get the point of this, its just a bunch of smilies after all, but for the heck of it, I'll answer:

1. The first part is normal, the 2nd is weird.

2. I am part of

3. The parts are separate in the first place, because you had too much to drink, and you are trying to mess with us
End of GM-morpheas768's quote

Ah, but is the first part normal because they're all the same, or does that make them wierd for not having any individuality?

Sorry for dragging this on... this was actually just my way of stopping the whole "meaning of everything" argument b4 kryo shut this place down.

U R WELCOME KRYO! Saved ur ass some work... <_<

 

Xer0 \^/

Reply #1396 Top

Meaning of Everything? Nyer?

I'm pretty sure that we were just debating whether or not the Venus Project would work...

 

"I can be your villain baby. I'll accentuate your pain. I will torture you forever. I'll take your breath away."

Villain

Reply #1397 Top

I actually didn't read anything once the posts started getting over 40 lines long... ^_^'

Here, I'm fairly sure that you all can appreciate what this video is about.

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! This Video has been banned and re-made in considerable parts of the Western World for being graphic, and for the risk of epileptic seizures in epileptic individuals.

 

"This IS Entertainment! Lies ARE Entertainment! You ARE Down on your knees, begging me for MORE!"

Xer0 \^/

 

Reply #1398 Top

Quoting Alpha_003_Snipe, reply 1394
Unlimited rights... The right to take what you want, to do what you want, and not to be stopped. You need something to enforce rules that stop murder and theft surely? Then you have a symbol of authority, which is either followed or opposed, creating a form of unity, I suppose, but sort of going against the point of the project.

Without a symbol of authority, you have anarchy. If a vote is taken without some kind of police force to enforce the final decision, people who disagree will still do what they want. If I'm missing something, please tell me. I just don't see how humanity and this project are compatible.

 

"I can be your villain baby. I'll accentuate your pain. I will torture you forever. I'll take your breath away."

Villain
End of Alpha_003_Snipe's quote

There is no need for any symbol of authority, because people would not have any reason to steal, kill, or harm anyone. There would be no personal gain from this. Why would you kill someone? Why would you steal something that is already yours?

Like I said, the concept of "ownership" would be obsolete. Also, anarchy happens, only when a group of people question the government, or the police, or any kind of authority. These things would not exist, ergo, no anarchy would be possible. As for the vote disagreement, people would not create conflict, because some things they vote for would occur, while others would not. And what do you think these things would be anyway? It would be things like: "Do you want the new train transportation to be a. white b. blue or c. green, things like that. What would there to vote for? The next president? LOL :rofl:   Most things would be just numbers and math anyway, these things cant be questioned. If in a particular place in the world is know for its strong winds, then the wind energy is the most efficient in that area, so that type of energy would be used in that place.

These are examples, but you get the point.

Also, since you and Whiskey insist so much on people's nature and stuff like that, I am going to say once again, that there is NO such thing as "human nature". If you still insist that in that world there would still be conflict, then do you know what the world civility means? If we reach the point where we finally create such a world, then our whole culture will be changed throughout the years, create a new type of culture, changing entirely the way we think, thus forming true civility in every human being.

All these things seem impossible to you, simply because we were never able to achieve them.

Again, since you haven't gotten the time to read or watch a video regarding the Venus project, don't rush to conclusions.

Reply #1399 Top

@ Morpheas- There were video games for the WH40k series before DoW. "Space Hulk" was one of them dealing with the Blood Angels and Tyranids on ancient wreckage (the Blood Angels looking for artifacts and the Tyranids using the wreckage to travel on)

there are a few more, even bought one, but can't remember the names, too many video games in my past (though oddly I can remember books quite well)

Reply #1400 Top

@Snipe: That song is creepy dude.

Quoting Xer07, reply 1395


Ah, but is the first part normal because they're all the same, or does that make them wierd for not having any individuality?
End of Xer07's quote

They are normal cause they are all the same.

Quoting Xer07, reply 1395

Sorry for dragging this on... this was actually just my way of stopping the whole "meaning of everything" argument b4 kryo shut this place down.

U R WELCOME KRYO! Saved ur ass some work...
End of Xer07's quote

huh? :|

Quoting Xer07, reply 1397
I actually didn't read anything once the posts started getting over 40 lines long...
 
End of Xer07's quote

He he, I feel you ;)

That video clip is really ugly to be honest X|

Quoting Ryat, reply 1399
@ Morpheas- There were video games for the WH40k series before DoW. "Space Hulk" was one of them dealing with the Blood Angels and Tyranids on ancient wreckage (the Blood Angels looking for artifacts and the Tyranids using the wreckage to travel on)

there are a few more, even bought one, but can't remember the names, too many video games in my past (though oddly I can remember books quite well)
End of Ryat's quote

Oh, I see. I was just curious if the success in video games started with the Dawn of War series, thats all :|