a meditation on favoritism...

I wasn't sure what you were on about kenray and then I spotted the category you're pointing out. It's in some other sections too.

I suppose you could change it to "Religious" to welcome all faiths but then the section would probably be the site of a terrible war...

Hey, I want a Jainist section too then? And how about the paganists, tribalists, animists, shintoists and what not? And let's not forget us atheists as well!

Sooo, changing the name to "religion" might be a good idea. I think people can be mature enough not to let that turn into a religious dispute.

On the other hand, no need to act politically correct here, right?

Crusades, anyone?....

Yes, renaming the category "Religious" may be better.

Hey, I got a question: are the religion icons trademarked?

The Christian section came about as a result of Dashboard. When Dashboard was brought in I duplicated the sections that were on Snoopsofts site. And with the new applications I have been just copying those sections.


But for the sake of arguement and speaking as a Christian..."Thou shall have no false God's before me"...so as a Christian there is no other category for Religion. Unless we were to have Catholics, Baptist, Protestants, etc..So as a Christian I cannot put other gods before my God.

But...but....but...Clapton is God....

A man requested:
Tell my brothers to divide my fathers things with me.

Jesus replied:
Who made me a divider? Turning to his disciples, he said: Do i divide things up?

I also think that renaming the catagory to "religious" would be suitable.

But, see T-man, now you are "enforcing" that which you beleive on this website.
WHich may be your option, but is, nonetheless, ethically wrong.

Jesus's buddies often called him "Rabbi".
Why?
Cuz Jesus is a Jew, and a good Jew.
Well respected by His folks in His time.
So if you are to respect Jesus, you should
at least put up a "Judaism" section...

see what i mean?

Frankly, considering that this is a web site for use by the general skinning public, I find it unprofessional that the personal views of one person would be forced upon it, thereby ignoring the wishes and views of others. IMNSHO, either there should be a generic 'Religious' category or no mention of religion at all.

'Religion is the opiate of the masses'......
ergo...
Just call it 'Drugs'.....

can't we all just have a "Drink of choice" and be happy..

Belief ( no matter what it may be) is to each his or her own and it should not offend anyone else....

(just for the sake of debate)

Kenray:

Ethically wrong, I disagree, it is ethically right!

Definition of Ethic: the discipline dealing with what is good and bad and with moral duty and
obligation

It is my 'moral duty and obligation' as a deciple of Christ to spread the 'good' news of Jesus to others.

I believe you have confused Political Correctness with Ethics.

T-Man - I assume you were being cynical. At least, I hope so.

There was an issue in the courts about wether it was appropriate for a Texas high school to allow a student to say a pray over the PA at the begining of each football game. In the coverage a news channel interviewed several students and asked if they would mind if another faith was allowed to say a pray too, maybe rotate randomly as there were a couple other denominations that had asked for the privilige.

One of the student's responses was chilling. She said "I was raised to believe that my faith is the only true faith and any other faith is an abomination before my God. So, yeah, I'd have a big problem with that." I found this incredibly appalling to come from a child and a frightening indication of the failure of the major Christian religions to really teach any Christian values.

I hear the freemasons have a good way of dealing with the issue. They believe there is only one God, therefor, if you believe in God, no matter what you call Him, it's the same God. Because there is only one. All faiths coexist within their system.

Maybe the section could be called "sacred" as that is a commonly used category for any religious or spiritual subject in art.

I should have refreshed before posting... I see, T-Man you weren't being cynical, and I do not mean to offend.

The category label for a section really has nothing to do with one's fervor or faith.

Check yer dictionary Tman:
(american heritage dictionary*)

eth·ic n.

A set of principles of right conduct.
A theory or a system of moral values:

i beleive anyone with a system of good moral values would consider it a principal of "right conduct" not to force their beleiefs on anyone.

i also beleive anyone with a system of good moral values would consider it a principal of "right conduct" to respect the beleifs of others, whose beleifs differ from one's own...

*http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=ethic

Of course T-Man is being "the devil's advocate" if I may use this pun... He started every one of his post with "For the sake of argument".
He's just playing.

(Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=ethics

And by the same token, why should I have to be forced to accept others beliefs in their gods.
You say that I would be forcing my beliefs, but it is also working the opposite way. Where I am being forced to either hinder my beliefs or promote others beliefs.

If I concede to the belief that there is a place for other god's or my God does not exist then I am doing an imoral justice to Jesus, myself and those of the Christian faith and in doing so acting unethically. So in my view it would be 'righteous conduct' to promote my faith.

So, it appears in one way or another, that one of us will be 'forced' to accept the other persons belief. Unless of course we simply delete that sub category.

why not just put those skins into a general category and delete the whole regligious thing... only way to please everyone

Indeed, it really is an all or nothing issue. It's not fair to the multitude of visitors to this site, coming from all over the world, to elevate one religion above all others. If you can't provide an umbrella for people of all faiths then there shouldn't be any religious sections at all.

Either that, or just have a notice right up on the front page indicating that this is a christian site and only christians should post themes here.

Well, that's a thought.

Interesting thread.

why not just put those skins into a general category and delete the whole regligious thing... only way to please everyone
by Citizen iMike - 6/8/2001 3:52:45 P

T-Man being a Christian you don't have to do "anything" to please anyone unlike being a webmaster... hehe

remember that

I say dust off and nuke 'em from space....it's the only way to be sure....

"And by the same token, why should I have to be forced to accept others beliefs in their gods"

Because the Lord Thy God has told you to love thy neighbor as you love yourself.

Have soem respect for thefact that there are real actual human beings with beleifs different than your own. Accept that you should love them, and respect them and cherish them, even though you differ on such a fundamental level.

Keep the section, but name it "Spiritual".

DO you think, that when people who are not Christian see that section, that they think,
"Hey, who is theis Christ person? Let me drop whatever I beleive and folow Him!"
Nope.
THey think, "Well, here they go again...idiots."

And i can tell you that's true because i live with a Buddhist, who lives in constant disgust with out more "out" Christian cousins.

THe best we can do, as CHristians, is to live our witness, and to be the kind of person other peopel would want to be.

IF this site was run by a Buddhist, adn there was a Buddism section, and not a CHristian seciton, how would that make you feel?

Do you love your neighbor?
Your enemy?
Will you "walk a mile in their shoes" as the Lord has told us to do?

To All WHo Are REading THis Thread:
Not all Christians are like T-man. THere are many liek me, who respect and love you, right thru our different beleifs.
We don't get much air tiem, we don't own broadcasting networks, and we don't shove ourselves on you.
We're here, though, trying to be the kind of loving person we would want everyone else to be.

Feel us?
I pray so..........