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Ah, one of the great misconceptions of quantum mechanics.

How so Draak?

It's under the assumption that superpositions are even necessary. We tend to think in relative terms, cause it's easier than allowing units to stand on their own. I think the dependency that quantum mechanics sometimes puts on the observer is foolish. Einstein's general theory of relativity does that, although in itself it is a still an amazing leap in observational theory. Quantum mechanics has broken away from the necessity of the observer since the cat, but still hasn't broken free or made peace with the macrocosmic constants which Einstein's theory lays out, and which quantum mechanics fail to describe on their own. Although I will not claim to be one of the amazingly few people to fully understand Heim's theory branching quantum mechanics with general relativity, I will say that I am a fan of the general principles and support those attempting to continue his work. If his theories pan out in practical application, it not only opens the doors to quantum drive mechanics, but also gives us subspace. Imagine seeing everything in Star Trek actually becoming reality, although not all at once. What's really messed up is that this guy was working out the mathematics immediately after WWII.

Now that I think of it, I got off on a rant. I don't think objects nor actions have to be witnessed, measured, nor occur in relation to other objects (although I know most of these are inevitable) in order to have occurred.

in the end it does not matter what we think, only what we can prove.

-Exiled Possum

What we think will always matter. It just might be that it doesn't matter to a person whose influence would be beneficial.

Truth is in the eye of the seer.  What one believes, to them, will always be the truth, because they believe it.  There can be no "Ultimate Truth", because it's impossible for us as a race to believe the same thing.

-Twilight Storm

of course it is possible. just do it the way it has always been done: kill everyone who has a different view

-Exiled Possum

I think it is possible, but I think we have to be far ahead of where we are, in every aspect. As for what we think versus can prove, I think having a vivid imagination is amazingly important. We do need to prove things. That's what technology functions on, but every invention ever known has been a product of imagination and necessity. We need light, but until someone could think beyond the flame, we couldn't achieve the lightbulb.

I would never put one above the other, because they are mutually beneficial.

Hmm...tesb disagrees with me.

*Has tesb assassinated.*

What?  Why is everybody looking at me like that?  I saw a chance to get rid of tesb, and I took it.  There's NOTHING wrong with that.  (Anyone get the Red vs Blue reference there???  Anyone?)

Anyway, Draak is right.  We are far from ever being able to agree as a race, but it is theoretically possible that we might someday.  (Like if we face annihilation as a species...though even then I think we'd only be able to get down to 2 sides.  Band together, and every man for himself.)

-Twilight Storm

you are bad at assassinations

imagination is worthless without prove. just open your mormon bible

-Exiled Possum

Hmm, there's my problem.  I don't recognize organized religion.  THere's no greater source of bloodshed throughout history than what has been done in the name of one god or another.

And before somebody gets mad, no, I am not flaming against anybody's religious beliefs, I'm just stating what I believe to be the truth.  If Anyone is offended, I'm sorry, and I welcome you to try to change my mind.  I even promise to give it the appropriate ammount of open thought.  I'm not against religion, just the organization of it.

Oh, and my beliefs have been confirmed...tesb is a zombie...where's ma wonder waffle???

-Twilight Storm

Actually, I feel that belief is more dangerous than organized religion. Aside from teh inevitability of people organizing their common beliefs, I think the root of said bloodshed is in the adamant mindset of the people within that religion, a mindset I have seen in non-denominational and aetheist alike.

As for imagination and proof, I feel it's a two way road. If you imagine a tv, but can not successfully construct the mechanism, it's a fool's errand. But if you have the mathematical and technical skill to construct one, but can not fathom such an object, you'll fail to make anything all the same. Xerox actually invented one of the earliest fax machines, but sold the rights off because they just couldn't figure out how it would be useful to transmit a visual image across telephone lines. That lack of imagination cost them billions.

if i am a zombie, what would a wonder waffle do, feed me?

take a brain waffle instead

-Exiled Possum

Take some buck shot. BLAM!

*looks at the tesb zombie; it twitches* WE ARE THE DESTROYER!!!! *fires a heavy bolter into the tesb zombie. 20 seconds later the tesb zombie is a pulped corpse*

a zombie that is becoming a corpse 

talk about redundancy

-Exiled Possum

corpse turned zombie turned corpse. I guess once it stops twitching, it could technically be the case. Still sounds weird.

You totally missed the fact that he did not turn into JUST a corpse, but a pulped corpse.

Also, Draak, do you happen to remember the max squad/support cap for the following races (DC v1.2 please): Space Marines, Chaos, Necrons, Tau, and Imperial Guard. Thanks if you do (and you share the info!).

Been a while. No idea.

Try here

Go to Squad System and pick a unit.

20/20 infantry vehicle

you increase it by securing further strategic points with necrons

-Exiled Possum

Okay, taking off for the weekend. Catch you guys late Sunday (maybe). Try not to have too much fun without me.

Scrodinger out.

missed an h and an ö, see you

-Exiled Possum

thats not english characters.... thats german or around there.