Bush is an Embarrassment

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The reception President Bush received today in Canada is a true embarrassment to the United States of America. We have a president who was despised by our closest neighbor and by the people of most of the European nations.

I cannot remember a time when the world had so little regard for our nation. The story is the same no matter were you turn with very few exceptions -- the United States is not trusted and our president is looked upon as an arrogant go it alone leader. It is hard to see how the next four years will benefit the people of our country or mend the huge rifts that exist between the United States and much of the rest of the world.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
About your blog,,, it is not uncommon for people or nations {comprised of people} to "hate" a well off winner....... jealousy is the main ingrediant of this. the other countries wish they were as successfull and rich as america. As for president Bush......... the only embarressment he is, is in the eyes of the luny left and moralisticly bankrupt nations, such as canada, france, germany,. et all.

Most nations such as these have no problem crying for america to help them in times of need, yet when its in there finantial intrest to do so disavow america and its leaders.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Canada is not jealous of the United Strates nor the European nations that do not like Bush and his policies. Face it, Bush is not liked by most people of the world. Even in England, the people do not like him or his policies. That is also true in Italy, Poland and Spain. This has NOTHING to do with the Left but is about Bush, his policies and the way he conducts himself. When Bush gets done with our budget deficit, trade deficit and the loss in jobs, we will be jealous not the other way arround!
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yet another attempt to claim to be a moderate? Nah, just not possible there PVT.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
This is not about me. Look at the pictures on TV as to how the President of the United States is being received. When President Bush adressed the UN there was dead silence. Last week there was another story of how unpopular Bush is in Europe. This is realiy !
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
I care about how you think Canada feels about Bush about as much as you care about grammar and spelling. "a embarrassment"? Try "an embarrassment". Your message will be lost if you can't present it in a fashion that makes people take you seriously. Call me petty if you want, but it's the title of your post. That goes a little beyond "relatively free of spelling and grammatical errors", don't you think? I mean, if you can't get it right there, what's the point of reading further? Come on Col, I'm a SSG and can get this much right.

Weren't you hawking a book a while back? I hope you paid your proofreader well. From the little I've skimmed over your blog, they deserved it.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

Lol Chipri!  You're great.


Oh, and sense when do we elect our president based on what other countries think of Him?  It's not them he's governing.


Trinitie

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #5 By: chiprj - 11/30/2004 4:09:20 PM

I care about how you think Canada feels about Bush about as much as you care about grammar and spelling. "a embarrassment"? Try "an embarrassment". Your message will be lost if you can't present it in a fashion that makes people take you seriously. Call me petty if you want, but it's the title of your post. That goes a little beyond "relatively free of spelling and grammatical errors", don't you think? I mean, if you can't get it right there, what's the point of reading further? Come on Col, I'm a SSG and can get this much right.

Weren't you hawking a book a while back? I hope you paid your proofreader well. From the little I've skimmed over your blog, they deserved it.


chiprj shootsssssssssssss the americans go wild and the canucks once again come in A FAR SECOND BEST
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
I hope that makes you happy. The truth of my Blog is the issue.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
I agree with Nomad,

The future of this country depends on us, and not the acceptance or approval of any other country.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

And thus we retreat to the attitude which served us so well in the containment philosophy of the post war era.


Cheers

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I care about how you think Canada feels about Bush about as much as you care about grammar and spelling


Here we go again with the political blog spell-off. Spelling and grammar, grammar and spelling...the issues that count!
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
I cannot remember a time when the world had so little regard for our nation.


I don't remember when the world loved America.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

Anytime after 1945, until approximately 1956.  Everyone except the soviets loved the Marshall Plan.


Cheers

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bye, Gene. Don't bother leaving a forwarding address.

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am not gonig away. It will be of great interest to see how Bush and his supporters blunder through issue after issue. My only hope is that America is great enough to endure inspite of you all!
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
I don't remember when the world loved America.


What about after 9/11 and before Iraq?
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply #16 By: latour999 - 11/30/2004 5:32:16 PM
I don't remember when the world loved America.


What about after 9/11 and before Iraq?


Nope, the Taliban still hated us then. As did Iran, and plenty of other nations.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
We are not talking about countries that never liked us. We are talking about countries that have been by our side for many years. We have very few friends. If you say look at England, Italy, Spain and Poland, look at what the people think not their leaders that have supported Bush even though their people do not. We live in a world that is interrelated and we go it alone.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
And thus we retreat to the attitude which served us so well in the containment philosophy of the post war era.


I don't subscribe to the containment philosophy
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
An embarrassment. I really have to ask, so what? That's a serious question. I ask it because I've seen this claim at various times and have wondered what the motivations were.

Here's my point. For some people, to be embarrassed is the most horrendous thing that could befall them. How they feel they are pictured in other people's minds is vastly more important than how they feel about themselves and their own actions. These people even tend to project their own embarrassment onto others that they feel are being looked upon with disdain by the public. Let's call them type A.

Other people however, have little concern for what others think of them or their actions prefering to satisfy their own sense of morality or judgement. These people tend to leave others to operate by their own moral compass as well. Let's call them Type B.

Naturally, there are a lot of people in between these two extremes, but back to my question: so what?

Let's assume a Type A person and a Type B person are both doing what they feel is right according to their own sense of values. Human nature being what it is, the populace will judge both for their actions. Some will find both person's actions to be an embarrassment, some neither, and various combinations of the above. Regardless, the Type A will always be embarrassed upon having any question of his actions. Type B will not. The main difference is in how secure each person, Type A or Type B, is in his decisions to do what he feels is right.

Now, why are some people so concerned about Bush being an embarrassment? Are they projecting their own embarrassment onto Bush? Is it that they feel embarrassed by his actions because of a difference in political beliefs? Do they feel embarrassed because the see Bush as a buffoon and feel their own intelligence is at question?

My sense of Bush is that he tends toward a Type B person. I don't think it embarrasses him in the least to do what he feels is the right thing for him and the country.

I think it is the Type A's that are embarrassed.


Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, as a real live canuck, I would say that we aren't jealous of America. Most Canadians are proud to be Canadians, with our tolerant society, hockey (damn NHL lockout), beer and socialized medicine (interesting combination, but we're an interesting bunch). And we don’t hate America. America has been our closest friend for years. It’s just Bush we don’t like. And that sentiment towards some international leaders isn’t new in any nation. But people turn it around on us going “You disagree with the president, you don’t support the president, you hate the president, you hate America, you’re a commie/terrorist.” Besides, it’s not like there haven’t been people (usually right-wing talk radio and Fox News hosts, or Pat Buchanan) who don’t like Canada, referring to us as “Soviet Canuckistan,” etc.

Reasons why we don't like Bush:
1) Trade irritants- tariffs on softwood lumber and bans on beef cause most Canadians to be angry with the Bush administration for using these issues to harm our economy, but are generally polite about it in the name of diplomacy (a word Bush doesn't seem to know the meaning of).
2) Political spectrum- We just don't agree with Bush on anything. Remember when people said Kerry was too liberal? In Canada, he would probably be moderate to right-wing. Most Canadians didn’t like either candidate, but thought Kerry was the lesser of the evils.
3) Iraq- Most Canadians were opposed to the war when it started, and that was before all the casualties, no WMDs, no ties to Al Qaeda, and when we thought that the American forces were going to be welcomed with open arms. Plus, our troops were already in Afghanistan, and would be stretched to their limit is they had to send some to Iraq. But all we got back was “You are either with us or against us,” from Bush, which made us feel like he thought we were his enemy.
4) Missile Defence- Most Canadians are opposed to missile defence, but Bush wants to bring us in on it, and we’re afraid Paul Martin, not the strongest Prime Minister we ever had, might say yes.
5) Personality- We view George W. Bush as stubborn and not that bright. He is also unwilling to admit that he is wrong, and tries to wrap himself in the flag and the troops to the point where is becomes unpatriotic to question him (for example, in the first debate he was criticizing Kerry for criticizing the war- “Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time. What kind of message are you sending to the troops?”).

Basically, most Canadians don’t like Bush, but like America. But, with the exception of Carolyn Parrish, our Parliamentary Village Loudmouthed Idiot, most of us try to be nice about it, especially in this day and age when diplomacy is especially important.

“Living next to you (Americans) is a lot like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and mild-mannered the beast, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.” –Former Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
Here we go again with the political blog spell-off. Spelling and grammar, grammar and spelling...the issues that count!

I hope that makes you happy. The truth of my Blog is the issue.


COL Gene and Reddirty - You're right. The issue is what is important. But, if you're going to write about it, show that you care enough about it to get it across in a way that makes sense. A way to show how important it is to you. That you care about the issue enough to get the title right. If you can't get the little things right, why should I think you have anything serious to say or that you truly think or care deeply about it? English is a tough language, even for native speakers. I realize that. Spend two minutes and do a cut and paste job in word. Grammar and spell check are friends to all shades of the political spectrum. Typos in the body of an article is one thing. Screwing up the title in a basic way is completely different. It detracts from your message.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Chiprj

Thanks for your comments. I will try. Take a look at my book, Four More For George W? It looks at the major issues and I did try to make sure the Grammar and Spell check were used.