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[v0.54.2]Babylon 5 - Sins of the Younger Races Remastered {Rebellion 1.95+} *UPDATE 16.05.2023*

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[v0.54.2]Babylon 5 - Sins of the Younger Races Remastered {Rebellion 1.95+} *UPDATE 16.05.2023*

Babylon 5 mod effort for Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion

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This is the story of the last of the Babylon 5 mod-efforts. It's goal, to prevent another failure, by creating a place to solve our problems collaboratively. Its a port of call, home away from home, for modelers, texturers, programmers and sound engineers. 

 

Babylon 5 - Sins of the Younger Races

 
Disclaimer:
The authors are not responsible for any damage that may arise from using this mod. This mod may not be sold under any circumstances. It may be downloaded, as long as it does not violate the laws of the state/country you live in. This disclaimer must always be distributed with the mod. For other used please contact me personally.

Thanks to the TEAM:
2D Artist: Tobias Liebhart (TobiWahn_Kenobi), SteinerX
Bughunters: Rob Cummings, cybertx, Darvroth, Peter1x9, ZombiesRus5
Coders: Ronie Albesa (zRazor), Rob Cummings (NewHorizons), Davroth, EvilTesla-RG, Rodney Jenkings (HotRod), Tobias Liebhart, Zvezdochets
Model Templates: Amras-Arfeiniel, James Newman (Firehawk)
Modelers: Ronie Albesa, Amras-Arfeiniel, Fileosoft, Johan Klaver, Koobalt, Tobias Liebhart, Stefan May, Timmaigh, Pauli Valkeejärvi (Hawkwall), Zvezdochets
Musician: Pauli Valkeejärvi
Research: Rob Cummings, Darvroth, Rodney Jenkins
PR: Darvroth, SteinerX
Sounds: Rob Cummings, Pauli Valkeejärvi, Zvezdochets
Texturers:  Tobias Liebhart, SteinerX, TFL_BigBangTheory, Timmaigh, Pauli Valkeejärvi, ZombiesRus5
Moderation: Blake00


Additional support: boshimi336, Lavo_2, myfist0, Gürol Salk (Geopard)

And to
MysticAngel for the Automated Fighter docking ability
The Babylon 5 X3TC team


And thanks to all those modelers whose work is a inspiration and a template for creating ingame assets

If I forgot anyone, please contact me so I can give proper credit. (There seem to be so many decent people involved at the moment)

 

Release 0.54.1 Full Download for Rebellion 1.95+
& Patch 0.54.2

Sins Of The Younger Races Remastered

NEW - Balvarin Carrier and Minor Factions fix!

 

 

Installation Guide:

  1. Download the latest Sins Remastered mod from here:
    https://www.moddb.com/mods/sinsre
  2. Extract the archive into a 'SinsRemastered' folder in your 'C:\Users\%username%\Documents\My Games\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion\Mods-Rebellion v1.85' folder.
  3. Download the latest Babylon 5 Sins of the Younger Races mod from here:
    https://www.moddb.com/mods/sins-of-the-younger-races
  4. Extract the archive into your root 'Mods-Rebellion v1.85' folder instead of a new mod folder as the archive ALREADY contains a premade 'SotyrRemastered' folder inside of it (so if you're not careful you'll end up with a mod folder inside of a mod folder and it won't work lol).
  5. Start Sins and go to 'Options', then 'Mods', and you should see the mods you've installed.
  6. Enable 'SotyrRemastered' and then enable 'SinsRemastered' too. Make sure that the load order is SotyrRemastered first/top and then SinsRemastered second/bottom.
  7. Restart Sins and you should be good to go!

Sometimes the in-game mod loader can be a bit funky so if you can't see the mods you've installed or something isn't working then enabling the mods via the 'EnabledMods.txt' file in your 'Mods-Rebellion v1.85' folder where you installed the mods to is the other alternative. It should look like this to work:

TXT2
SinsArchiveVersion 194
Version 0
enabledModNameCount 2
enabledModName "SotyrRemastered"
enabledModName "SinsRemastered-v0.95b"

 

DISCORD:

https://discord.gg/9AwgByEEKn

 

Old Blog with screenshots and infos maintained by SteinerX can be found here (*OUT OF DATE*)
http://babylon5ins.blogspot.com/

 

Yours TobiWahn_Kenobi

 

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Reply #4776 from Sins Forums Top

Rant: Stupid blog not letting me know it was no longer logged in AFTER I made a long post. Rant off.

After much testing I've decided on the following changes:

EA Tiger, Minbari Flyer, Centauri Razik, and Narn Gorith will retain gun AntiVeryLight and I'll double the base damage.

All other strike craft will have their gun upgraded to AntiLight retaining the weapon damage values which will half their effectiveness against other strike craft (due to the armor adjustment tables) and increase the effectiveness significantly against ships with L armor, effectively against M armor and of limited effectiveness against ships with heavier armor. The missiles from bombers still cause far more damage than the guns, with the exception of ships with L armor.

I still need to test the Elder race fighters but feel the same sort of scaling will apply. Ships with L armor will not fair well against clouds of fighters, I'll need more testing to see if this is unbalancing or not.

Reply #4777 from Sins Forums Top

Minbari fighters were paper tigers and have required extensive rebalancing, expect some surprises next build.

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Reply #4778 from Sins Forums Top

Here's a pre-texture rendering of the Narn T'Loth. Because of it's very nature, it takes up some poly's but nothing too much :)

Narn T'Loth

 

Reply #4779 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4778

Here's a pre-texture rendering of the Narn T'Loth.

Nice, very nice and glad to see you are still slogging away at the model problem. Rebalancing the fighters is proving to be a pain in the rear, I can assume nothing as testing has revealed some interesting results.

Reply #4780 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Darvroth, reply 4779

Rebalancing the fighters is proving to be a pain in the rear, I can assume nothing as testing has revealed some interesting results.

I do not envy you, but I do look forward to the next build :-)

 

Reply #4782 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4778

Here's a pre-texture rendering of the Narn T'Loth.
Looks very good. **wishes-for-Centauri-starbase-model-to-recreate-Ragesh-3 ** ;-)

Fired up SotYR for the first time in a while and I like updates. Centauri Primus is really nicely detailed, colours are spot on, though it could do with being larger. ATM it's not much bigger than a Vorchan which IIRC was about half the size (width).

Found a hard-to-spot missing string from the Commodity Boom random event. Add ...

StringInfo
       ID "IDS_RANDOMEVENT_RESOURCEBOOM_NAME"
       Value "Commodity Boom"

... to English.str and increment the count.

 

Reply #4783 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting NewHorizons, reply 4782

Found a hard-to-spot

Welcome back, your insights are always of benefit.

Reply #4784 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting NewHorizons, reply 4782

wishes-for-Centauri-starbase-model-to-recreate-Ragesh-3

Do you mean this one?

base

@ Darvroth: is this Centauri base in the Centauri tech tree? I was planning on doing the G'Karith, but i could start with the base too :-)

Reply #4785 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4784

Do you mean this one?
It was tongue-in-cheek, but yeah, that one! :-)

SB Constructor for it could possibly be like its Minbari counterpart where is can either deploy civilian (like Ragesh-3's) or military variants of the SB. Former could have colony-pod/trade-port type upgrades, latter would have more weapon/armour upgrades.

A model for the G'Karith would be nice - I always thought (if I could figure out what the correct orientation was) that the angular 'C' or 'U' (sometimes with 3 dots) logo on the side of Narn ships would have made a good faction icon.

Quoting Darvroth, reply 4783

Welcome back
Cheers. I've also got several IDS_TAUNT suggestions, but I'll have to test those as they would need to use B5 races names (IDS_TAUNT_Minbari..., IDS_TAUNT_Narn... etc) instead of the standard Sins ones (IDS_TAUNT_TECH, IDS_TAUNT_PSI...) that currently exist in SotYRs string file. Not sure if you can mix and match raceNameParsePrefix & raceNameParsePrefixFallback in taunt string IDs.

Reply #4786 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4778

Here's a pre-texture rendering of the Narn T'Loth. Because of it's very nature, it takes up some poly's but nothing too much

Woah, nice work there!

Quoting NewHorizons, reply 4782

Fired up SotYR for the first time in a while and I like updates. Centauri Primus is really nicely detailed, colours are spot on, though it could do with being larger. ATM it's not much bigger than a Vorchan which IIRC was about half the size (width).

Welcome back. Thanks, worked hard on the primus. As for the size, if you can give me hard numbers (meters) then I'll adjust (easily done with the moddb). I thought I had the correct numbers from sources on the net, but I may have taken the wrong ones.

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4784

Do you mean this one?

I have an old model of that one I worked on some years ago, may check it out if it is still OK.

 

Reply #4787 from Sins Forums Top

Thanks to all for the positive feedback!

Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi, reply 4786

I have an old model of that one I worked on some years ago, may check it out if it is still OK

Ahhh I am already almost done. Well worst case you have 2 models you can choose from :-)

When looking back in old (ancient) posts in this thread, I do notice seeing models from other people that are not yet in the mod. Do you have all those models or are they lost to us? Basically I am asking, to prevent double work, is there a list for which models you do not yet have?

Reply #4788 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi, reply 4786

As for the size, if you can give me hard numbers (meters) then I'll adjust (easily done with the moddb)
The scene that springs to mind is when Emperor Turhan visited B5 (much to G'Kars displeasure!) in 'Coming of Shadows'. The Royal Liner (Primus minus turrets) was significantly larger than the escorting Vorchans.

Not sure how 'canon' these stats are, but the figures that 'Into the Fire' would have used were

Primus:-

Dimensions Length 1586 meters
Beam 1023 meters
Draught 455 meters

Vorchan:-

Dimensions Length 360 meters
Beam 475 meters
Draught 305 meters

Length of the Primus is deceptive due to the 'tail' and forward antennae. Width (beam) is probably the best dimension to use for relative scaling.

Reply #4789 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4784

Darvroth: is this Centauri base in the Centauri tech tree? I was planning on doing the G'Karith, but i could start with the base too

Sort of, I've scripted the EA, Minbari and the Narn SB but don't let that stop you. I'm almost done with the fighter re-balance, guess I found my new project.

Reply #4790 from Sins Forums Top

Here's a untextured rendition of the G'Karith, with some blend-in from how the T'Loth and other Narn vessels look.

Reply #4791 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4790

Here's a untextured rendition of the G'Karith, with some blend-in from how the T'Loth and other Narn vessels look.

Good rendition, while purist to only have the one connection for the sensor ring at the base of the bridge would it make more sense to have a few struts for structure?

Reply #4792 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4787

When looking back in old (ancient) posts in this thread, I do notice seeing models from other people that are not yet in the mod. Do you have all those models or are they lost to us? Basically I am asking, to prevent double work, is there a list for which models you do not yet have?

not quite. I do have a vast amount of models in various states of "finishnes"", but no list about them and I have no idea of the state of each model. Lets see...

I have

  • some planets (Vorlon)
  • Lost of Vorlon Models from yourself ;-)
  • A Capitakship Factory (think ea, not sure)
  • A Frigate Factory (think ea, not sure)
  • Marathon (2 models)
  • Narn ShoKas
  • TRakk and TLoth
  • GKarith
  • GVran (mostly done, needs corrections, UV and Texture)
  • Narn Hangar
  • Rongoth
  • Rothan
  • ShoKas/ShoKos
  • Thentus
  • Centauri Starbase
  • Olympus
  • Oracle
  • Thetys
  • Tiger Starfury

 

Most are not even touched, some are easier to get ingame, some more difficult. But that should basically cover it. We had more models once, but Zvezdochets wanted to not hand them over until finished and then had a Hard Disk crash, losing many a model in the progress.

Quoting NewHorizons, reply 4788

The scene that springs to mind is when Emperor Turhan visited B5 (much to G'Kars displeasure!) in 'Coming of Shadows'. The Royal Liner (Primus minus turrets) was significantly larger than the escorting Vorchans.

Not sure how 'canon' these stats are, but the figures that 'Into the Fire' would have used were

Primus:-
Dimensions Length 1586 meters
Beam 1023 meters
Draught 455 meters

Vorchan:-
Dimensions Length 360 meters
Beam 475 meters
Draught 305 meters

Length of the Primus is deceptive due to the 'tail' and forward antennae. Width (beam) is probably the best dimension to use for relative scaling.

Most sources on the net say the Vorchan is 608 meters in length, the primus is already at 1586 meters in the database. Didn't find a source claiming the vorchan to be only 360 in length (except the wikia). Some say it is about 260, some estimate it at 800 meters. I think 608 is about correct, but is easily adjustable if there is consensus that it is too large.

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4790

Here's a untextured rendition of the G'Karith, with some blend-in from how the T'Loth and other Narn vessels look.

Nice! Should make that ring a bit more round if poly limits allow.

 

Reply #4793 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Darvroth, reply 4791

Good rendition, while purist to only have the one connection for the sensor ring at the base of the bridge would it make more sense to have a few struts for structure?

I'll see what I can do that still looks nice.

Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi, reply 4792

Nice! Should make that ring a bit more round if poly limits allow.

It would raise the count above 4000, but not by much, I'll check.

Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi, reply 4792

We had more models once, but Zvezdochets wanted to not hand them over until finished and then had a Hard Disk crash, losing many a model in the progress.

Ahh that's too bad, luckily we have the cloud now :)

 

Reply #4794 from Sins Forums Top

TobiWahn,

Finished rebalancing the fighters and reviewed ship antifighter weapons making necessary adjustments. Forgot to review SB and planetary orbitals, I'll capture that in the next commit. On to scripting Centauri SB...

Fighters are now a bit tougher and cause a bit more damage. Missiles still cause the majority of damage when outfitted. The difference between interceptor and bomber roles should now be more apparent.

Reply #4795 from Sins Forums Top

Hale-sose,

Don't forget the T'Loth uses blue accents vice red which is the Narn norm.

Reply #4796 from Sins Forums Top

Does Mongoose have anything to say before I get heavy into scripting? My internet search has revealed little to any details about Centauri space stations of any type.

Reply #4797 from Sins Forums Top

This might be a heretical thought but currently we have large clouds of fighters using squadrons where canon had individual fighters. For example B5 when fully outfitted had 3 squadrons of fighters, the current build Minbari Military Caste can have as many as 50 squadrons.

Despite just finishing a comprehensive rebalance of fighters if there is the desire I'm willing to revamp the numbers which will force the building of additional squadron types to accommodate those ships had by canon only had a few individual fighters fitted vice a few squadrons.

In my rebalance efforts I took the DPS for 4 squadrons as my benchmark.

Standing by while I begin the scripting of the Centauri stations.

Reply #4799 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4798


Quoting Darvroth,
reply 4797

Don't forget the T'Loth uses blue accents vice red which is the Narn norm.



That's for TobiWahn and his epic texturing skills :) Will take me ages to figure out how to do that properly.


Quoting Darvroth,
reply 4794

Finished rebalancing the fighters



Can't wait until next build, thanks!

Meanwhile, a sketch for the Minbari space station (Centauri space station is already modelled I read above). Very difficult to keep low on poly's because about everything is x8 on this thing.

Minbari space station

Reply #4800 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hael-sose, reply 4799

Minbari space station

Acorns in space!!!!!!! :)

All we need now is First One with a giant squirrel for a ship. Seriously, looks good; I especially like the uneven tube structures on the bottom as it perfectly complements the symmetry on top.