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"Immigrants, Assimilate or Go the Hell Home"? Gee whiz, what a classy featured article for Thanksgiving day... "
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha
some indian corn and an insightful to ya 
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RE: "Immigrants Assimilate Or Get The Hell Out!"
Why feature this self-evidently hateful article on the front page of JoeUser? There's not even a pretense of civility in the title.
From where I'm standing, JoeUser has crossed the line to becoming the house organ for extreme right wing fringe groups. Someone call David Duke and tell him there's this great blog site for people like him.
Why not just go whole hog and call it "JoeRacist: Blogs for the average white supremacist"?
"The enemy is among us"? Wow, if that's not meant to incite hatred against a group, then I don't know what is.
Disgusted as usual at what passes for humanity here,
David St. Hubbins
Why feature this self-evidently hateful article on the front page of JoeUser? There's not even a pretense of civility in the title.
From where I'm standing, JoeUser has crossed the line to becoming the house organ for extreme right wing fringe groups. Someone call David Duke and tell him there's this great blog site for people like him.
Why not just go whole hog and call it "JoeRacist: Blogs for the average white supremacist"?
"The enemy is among us"? Wow, if that's not meant to incite hatred against a group, then I don't know what is.
Disgusted as usual at what passes for humanity here,
David St. Hubbins
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I wouldn't expect anything else from whipsy. She's always so true to form. The fact that it is featured is shameful. Disgusting, even.
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| I wouldn't expect anything else from whipsy. She's always so true to form. The fact that it is featured is shameful. Disgusting, even. |
Not to mention more than a little bit embarrassing for the reputation of this website, which I happen to quite like so far.
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I'm sorry but I agree with LW.
I see the article as *neither* shameful OR disgusting!
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I'm sorry but I agree with LW. I see the article as *neither* shameful OR disgusting!
Typing in CAPS, *screaming*, and an exclamation point!!!! Congratulations, Doc, you just scored the angry man's hat trick
Given your inability to express your thoughts without screaming, it's not surprising you can't see what's wrong with the article in question.
David St. Hubbins
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| Reply #7 By: David St. Hubbins (Anonymous) - 11/25/2004 3:57:59 PM I'm sorry but I agree with LW. I see the article as *neither* shameful OR disgusting! Typing in CAPS, *screaming*, and an exclamation point!!!! Congratulations, Doc, you just scored the angry man's hat trick Given your inability to express your thoughts without screaming, it's not surprising you can't see what's wrong with the article in question. David St. Hubbins |
Since your so smart? Why don't you tell me how to emphasize a particular word? I really don't need your condesending attitude or your mouth. You want to tell everyone one again about how you are always nice to all? From what you wrote, most would consider what you did as a personal attack. Then do me and the rest of JU a large favor. Get lost!
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Honestly, David, I don't mind if you stick around. So I guess if you left you wouldn't be doing all the rest of JU a favor. I ain't hatin', baby. Or yelling. Or spouting racist propaganda.
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Man, it's great to be back.
It seems nothing changed while I was gone, with the exception of a few new names representing the same polar differences.
One observation tho, when did everyone who disagrees with the initial post get so thin skinned?
I mean, if you disagree with what is represented you are welcome to file a response, but it seems to me that disenting voices are taking every post as a personal attack..........
What gives?
It seems nothing changed while I was gone, with the exception of a few new names representing the same polar differences.
One observation tho, when did everyone who disagrees with the initial post get so thin skinned?
I mean, if you disagree with what is represented you are welcome to file a response, but it seems to me that disenting voices are taking every post as a personal attack..........
What gives?
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| It seems nothing changed while I was gone, with the exception of a few new names representing the same polar differences |
Ultimately, what's wrong with polar differances? It's what creates magnetic ballance...what holds it all together. Did mother nature specifically state it must all be held togther? Hold on, let go, either way we'll see...but hate on another trying to survive here on earth, well...
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| ...."some first american (or native american) corn for ya...." |
i knew i shoulda went with maize but...
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| or is this just a corny joke? |
dunno but under the whiteman's law it would prolly be a maizedemeanor.
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@ little whip AND kingbee
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I always love the spin off articles that people make instead of commenting on the original. Nothing better than drawing more attention to the stuff that you are complaining about 
| I wouldn't expect anything else from whipsy. |
dabe, please refrain from saying things like this. I know you have some sort of personal issue with Little Whip, but it doesn't need to be spread across the site. Please keep it contained. We have a very low tolerance for that type of action on this site.
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No comment
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| And in doing so, bring more traffic to the 'offending' thread....thanks reddirty! |
Hopefully people read it and realize how horrible it is to say things like that.
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See what I mean?
JU reminds me of watching Soap Opera's sporadically, you can watch today and then come back 3 months later and still follow the story line.
SSDD.....
Don't get me wrong, it is still entertaining and mentally stimulating, just formulamatic.....
JU reminds me of watching Soap Opera's sporadically, you can watch today and then come back 3 months later and still follow the story line.
SSDD.....
Don't get me wrong, it is still entertaining and mentally stimulating, just formulamatic.....
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As much as I hate to agree with LW, the title of the article is just that--a title. The actual article isn't one that I agree with, and I think I expressed my disagreement in a response, I don't quite remember. Either way, the article is the thing to rant against, not the title. The titles have to be either creative, weird, or incendiary if they're gonna draw readers. I don't want to get taken to task for my title "I am god." I'd rather you read the article and tear me apart for that.
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In house politics is hilarious and personally I don't know why y'all taking it so seriously take a step back, cool off, and maize on through...
Seems everywhere I look the right attacks the left and vice versa (excluding some more sensible and non-attacking individuals). People are taking politics more serious than the politicians...so if you really care about it that badly and I mean really care.
Put your money where your mouth is and run...for a political seat that is or at least contribute back to the community and I don't mean taxes.
Red Cross needs volunteers, Salvation Army, others, volunteer if you truly care.
This message brought to you by Grim (Red Cross Volunteer), the American Red Cross, Salvation Army and the People for Getting People to Volunteer Inc.
- Grim
Seems everywhere I look the right attacks the left and vice versa (excluding some more sensible and non-attacking individuals). People are taking politics more serious than the politicians...so if you really care about it that badly and I mean really care.
Put your money where your mouth is and run...for a political seat that is or at least contribute back to the community and I don't mean taxes.
Red Cross needs volunteers, Salvation Army, others, volunteer if you truly care.
This message brought to you by Grim (Red Cross Volunteer), the American Red Cross, Salvation Army and the People for Getting People to Volunteer Inc.
- Grim
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People like LittleWhip screw things up for those of us who would like to have a reasonable, civil debate on the race issue.
Civilized: 'I think immigrants should make a greater effort to adapt'
Uncivilized: 'IMMIGRANTS ASSIMILATE OR GO THE HELL HOME!'
Yes, form does matter when discussing sensitive issues like race. Philomedy, I think you've got it wrong. Titles do not *have* to be incendiary to draw readers as you claim, unless incendiary is all ya got. If you have to 'trick' readers into reading your shit, you are lame. One question: if her title is OK, then why did she change it? There was an exclamation at the end of it when she first posted, now it's a period. Small detail? Sure, but very telling.
In broad strokes, LW and I probably would agree on a lot of these issues. I have no problem with the article quoted; her incitement of hatred is another matter. Put another way: the Dutch article as quoted would be OK here in Canada as it is civilized in tone; LW's commentary could get her arrested here for inciting hatred - I'm not kidding, it does happen here.
Grim - maybe you are OK with inciting hatred against minorities but some of us aren't. We have a right - a duty - to call out the hatemongers, and you are way out of line telling us to go volunteer. FWIW, I quit my six figure consulting job in 2000 to go volunteer teaching computers in the Third World through the Canadian NetCorps program. You? Frankly, I'm tired of The Nihilists' flippant attitude about people who actually give a shit. But that's another story.
David St. Hubbins
Civilized: 'I think immigrants should make a greater effort to adapt'
Uncivilized: 'IMMIGRANTS ASSIMILATE OR GO THE HELL HOME!'
Yes, form does matter when discussing sensitive issues like race. Philomedy, I think you've got it wrong. Titles do not *have* to be incendiary to draw readers as you claim, unless incendiary is all ya got. If you have to 'trick' readers into reading your shit, you are lame. One question: if her title is OK, then why did she change it? There was an exclamation at the end of it when she first posted, now it's a period. Small detail? Sure, but very telling.
In broad strokes, LW and I probably would agree on a lot of these issues. I have no problem with the article quoted; her incitement of hatred is another matter. Put another way: the Dutch article as quoted would be OK here in Canada as it is civilized in tone; LW's commentary could get her arrested here for inciting hatred - I'm not kidding, it does happen here.
Grim - maybe you are OK with inciting hatred against minorities but some of us aren't. We have a right - a duty - to call out the hatemongers, and you are way out of line telling us to go volunteer. FWIW, I quit my six figure consulting job in 2000 to go volunteer teaching computers in the Third World through the Canadian NetCorps program. You? Frankly, I'm tired of The Nihilists' flippant attitude about people who actually give a shit. But that's another story.
David St. Hubbins
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| Philomedy, I think you've got it wrong. Titles do not *have* to be incendiary to draw readers as you claim, unless incendiary is all ya got. |
I did not suggest a title had to be incendiary, I just pointed out that that is one way to go. One way or the other, your title has to catch the eye. In the case of this particular article, the title was far worse than the article. All I'm saying is that the article should be the issue, not the title. From the article it was clear that LW does not stand an a rooftop telling immigrants to go the hell home.
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| Reply #26 By: David St. Hubbins (Anonymous) - 12/2/2004 1:39:50 AM People like LittleWhip screw things up for those of us who would like to have a reasonable, civil debate on the race issue. Civilized: 'I think immigrants should make a greater effort to adapt' Uncivilized: 'IMMIGRANTS ASSIMILATE OR GO THE HELL HOME!' |
You don't like it? Then by all means don't read it!
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| RE: "Immigrants Assimilate Or Get The Hell Out!" Why feature this self-evidently hateful article on the front page of JoeUser? There's not even a pretense of civility in the title. From where I'm standing, JoeUser has crossed the line to becoming the house organ for extreme right wing fringe groups. Someone call David Duke and tell him there's this great blog site for people like him. Why not just go whole hog and call it "JoeRacist: Blogs for the average white supremacist"? "The enemy is among us"? Wow, if that's not meant to incite hatred against a group, then I don't know what is. Disgusted as usual at what passes for humanity here, David St. Hubbins |
I enjoy, and cannot beat this dead horse enough. Freedom of speech, freedom of speech, freedom of speech! She may in fact, be wrong, (I think she is frequently,) but little whip has the right to post whatever the hell she wants on her blog as long as it isn't libelous and/or slanderous. You have the right not to read it. And unless you glossed over the article and didn't read the title, I will even admit she's fairly effective to get you to read it. Voltiare said, "I may disagree with every word you say, but I will defend, to the death, your right to say it." ...That, however, will not stop me from commenting on how wrong lw is.
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I have a buddy who from the time we were just kids has mouthed off about immigrants this, immigrants that. But this same buddy of mine is the first to jump in a brawl at a club when the Gestapo-like bouncers started pounding two relatively diminutive Hispanic fellas. My buddy said that, “it just felt like the right thing to do.” Jumping in the middle.
Abstract beliefs colliding with real life situations. People are complex.
Abstract beliefs colliding with real life situations. People are complex.
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Am I the only one who views taking "credit" or purporting "blame" for National/Racial/Cultural attainment, or lack thereof, of which we, as individuals, only very recently born into the world have had no part is pure hubris?
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