I prefer the TEC, i dont know why, but i am just better with them.  my favorite cap ship is the one that can colonize (forgot its name), i dont use the Marza or the Kol, i like this one.

Advent is "meh", Vasari as well.  I just like the TEC

Okay, that comment confused the hell out of me. Do you mean that the Marza is not among the best ships the TEC have? Because if you mean that, you're so, SO wrong, my friend.

I think he laid ground for some misunderstanding. What he wanted to point out was that TEC fleets can be very resistive and resilient provided enough gardas, hoshikos and KOL-tanks are present on the battlefield. The Marza does not fit in that over-protective fleet approach. Instead it is one of the two ooops-your-fleet-is-gone  abilities of the TEC along with the SB (self-destruction).

Ive gotten over 200 credits per second and about 30 of metal and crystal with ful fleet upgrades. It was a huge map and I would just capture a planet and fill it with trade ports and refinerys. I also had all the economics research. This was in vanilla sins, so no starbases. I still prefer the Vasari though. I once beat a lvl 5 Marza and some frigates with 2 lvl 1 Eggs, so I dont get the Marza obsession. Its just not the unbeatable supership everyone says.

yeah

a level 5 marza is no better than, say a level 5 kol

its when a marza gets to level 6 and gets that badass missile barrage that it becomes a ship to be reckoned with

my current cap ship fleet has 8 of them, all level 6 or higher

thats a lot of explosions when they let fly

Doesn't the Marauder counter the Marza already with phase out hull? So yeah, Marauder is the best way to counter the Marza for Vasari, whether you use POH or run rings 'round it.

Vasari, IMHO, are the best race. Early game they can gain a sifnificant economic and military advantage by capturing neutrals and being able to pump out LRMs within 5 minutes.

Mid game, their support cruisers can disable enemy units and make them even more vulnerable to the almight phase missile. Upgrades further increase the effectiveness of phase missiles and improve crystal and metal extraction rates as well as reducing the cost of everything.

Late game, the Vasari can move anywhere in an instant through phase stabalizer technology, and can use this to jump far behind enemy lines through the use of the Kostura. Their powerful capships can rip anything to shreds, and their still-powerful LRMs continue to rain down phase missiles.

Vasari are simply the ultimate combiniation of mobility, power and efficiency.

How do you do that?! As if the Vasari werent already the best.

koda0 i have to agree with you

they are rather reminiscent, in that regard, to the Space Marines of W40K, they are general purpose combatants, equally capable in close range slugging matches (Kodiaks) and long range death dealing (Javelis, Novalith etc). they have a strong economy, reasonable culture, powerful weapons

they are the most well rounded, and that is why i prefer them

Shoot a planet with a kostura cannon, it now acts like it has a phase stabiliser for a bit, allowing you to jump from a phose node to the kostura target.

With the temporary phase stabilizers the base and capital have you can only bring reinforcements.  You cannot use it to head back to a permenant stabilizer.

Not really, tech is a trade superpower. and on the military sides, it is a missle manic.

The only think I like about the advent is the battlecrusier, that is probably one of the ships that look "right" if you know what I mean. However, if you usually don't put refinaries but rather trade ports on either phase or tech, advent is the way to go. I usually build a research station where I won't build if I had played either tech or phase. While we are the subjects of looks, I think the research stations both civ and mil looks like research stations than tech and phase

However, the mazra, I agree, is what make tech great.

and for phase, i have no comment what so ever

Your post more or less encapsulates one of the huge benefits of playing the game in online multiplayer--your opponents won't be fighting you with one or two hands tied behind their backs.