custom pc

OK, i need a fast, reliable, powerful computor setup for intense gaming and im not afraid to build it myself, top price, 500-1000 dollars, any suggetions? i need a case, a power supply, a recent and good video card (preferably nvidia), a moderate to large hard drive, a moderate sound card, good QUAD core cpu, motherboard, and a good amount of ram. also if im missing something add that in too:grin: .  if you have something like this post ur specs and where u got the stuff and how well it works.  im a bit strapped for cash so to just remind you again somewhere around 500-1000 bucks.

(edit)  im in the US and need a VERY reliable website.

 

 

 

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it might be hard to get a gaming system for that price with a monitor and keyboard, mouse, etc...

here are a few sites with good prices on gaming rigs...pre built...pretty cheap if you ask me

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

http://www.tigerdirect.com/indexus.asp?SRCCODE=WEBGOOTD&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE

http://www.ibuypower.com/

i hope this helps you out friend :)

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i already got speakers, a monitor, and a mouse and keyboard, so i dont need that stuff.  but thanks ill take a look

 

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I buy almost all my parts from ncix (in Canada). Check out their US site (I assume you're in the US):

 

http://www.ncixus.com/

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newegg usually as pretty good deals as well, for that price it wont be hard to get a gaming rig at all, i built mine for around 600 with case but i used an E8400 not a quad core the quads are still pricy so ull probly be stuck with a Q6600

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i just looked on cyber power and they are having some kind of sale good comp at cheap prices

 

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Edit again: Or not, hadn't noticed the 260 got revamped.  The processor doesn't fit your specs though, triple core instead of quad.  Ignore me.

 

The radeons are a better value for your price range.  ATI has nothing on Nvidia for the top end, the 295 cleans up on the 4870x2 like it's a second gen card, but that's for the $1500 price range, you're not spending $500 on the card.  I recommend checking the q3 2008 vga charts at Toms Hardware to find the right card for your budget.  By the way, this advice comes from a guy that's never had a Radeon he didn't hate.  Nvidia is having some driver problems, like the bloom issues people are experiencing with Sins, the Radeons are better priced performance wise, and have better drivers these days.  If you want sheer power, you go for a 295, if you're on a budget, you get a Radeon.

 

For processors...  This is a hard one.  Your budget screams AMD Phenom, but the I7 is flat superior in every way.  I doubt there is much in the way of a future upgrade if you get the Phenom.  This is probably the best possible processor for you to get, now.  You can seriously overclock this sucker even on stock fans.  I recommend upgrading them anyway if you OC, but a quad core 3Ghz processor doesn't really need a lot more oomph.  They aren't real likely to keep using these sockets for a long time though, and I expect they've about run out of room on the Phenom.  The Nehalem on the other hand is, currently, capable of vastly superior performance.  Even the 940 spanks the living shit out of the best that AMD has to offer, the top of the current Nehalem chips is disgustingly more impressive than the Phenom line will ever be.  The problem is you'll be spending 200 bucks more to get a comparable processor in the 920.  You will have triple channel ddr3 ram though, which also costs a little more.  A better cooling system is mandatory with an I7.

 

You can't go wrong with the I7 920 and a decent x58 mobo, but it's going to cost you almost 600 right there, and another 100 ish for six gigs of ddr3 ram.  If your limit is 1k, that leaves you around 350 for the video card, drive, case and power supply, way too short.  If you can break that barrier, you'll have a much much better computer to upgrade two years from now.

 

Newegg generally has the best prices, and you can get free shipping.  As they're an outstanding bunch that fixes problems and treats customers very well, I highly recommend shopping with them even when you spend a couple bucks more, which is very rare.  They should have just about everything.

 

If you get a board that supports triple channel ram, go with 12 gigs if you can swing it.  Lots of ram is going to be very very useful in the next couple years.  Don't get a setup with support for less than eight, you wont really need it, but you'll wish you had it.  It's just fine to stick with two 2gig chips for now in a board with four slots and add in the other two later, but you're really going to want all that ram with windows 7.  It will be screaming fast for every day applications if you can cache them all.

 

Wander around New Egg a while and see what looks good, plenty of people around here will tell you if you've done a stupid after you post what you're planning to get.

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I'd just like to add that you could easily save money on a soundcard by using the onboard sound - there isn't a whole lot of difference, even for 5.1.  A good, inexpensive case I recommend is the Cooler Master CM 690, pretty big for a midtower, decent cooling with room for a 120mm on the side near the video card(s) and has clamps inside to aid in cable management.  For the powersupply, the 750w corsair is pretty cheap (115 cdn) and solid.  Like above poster said, a phenom is probably the route to go, x4 940 or x3 720, make sure to unlock the 4th core if you go with the 720 http://www.linustechtips.com/ncix-tech-tips-videos/ncix-tech-tips-35-unlocking-phenom-ii-x3-triple-to-x4-quad-core

For the videocard, depending on budget I'd suggest either the GTX 275 ($250 on NE) the 4850x2 2gb ($275 on NE) or GTX 285 ($320ish).  You don't need more than 4 gb of ram for gaming at this point, but you could go for 8gb if you like since the price is quite low.  I don't have a strong recommendation for the motherboard, a am2+ in your price range that has overclocking options and the typical stuff would be the way to go though.

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I'm planning on building this in the near future, runs to about $1100:

Antec Nine Hundred - $119.99

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

 

AMD Motherboard and Phenom Combo - $354.98

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.181992

 

Kingston HyperX 2GB - $25.99 x 3

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104019

 

Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 - $189.99 - Free Shipping

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801

 

Western Digital 500GB Hard Drive OEM - $59.99

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320

 

Samsung DVD Drive - $25.99

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151173

 

Antec EA650W PSU - $99.99

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015

 

Windows Vista Home Premium OEM - $99.99

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

 

ASUS VH222H 21.5" 1080p HDMI Monitor - $179.99

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236053

 

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and im not afraid to build it mysel

You should.

Here's one good reason; +5 voltage secrets.

At 1200$ (Incl. PST/GST taxes) -- and with extended warrenty for two more years... i got a brand new Acer gear last Summer that will get ENTIRELY replaced or serviced if it ever somehow fails by Staples & Manufacturer.

I wasn't afraid either and yet with some genuine & legal OEM_VISTA-HP, SATA 500gigs, 3G_Ram, Core2-E4600, GeForce-8600GS, 22"LCD, 8 USB, 14-1/Card slots, Multi-DVD, 450wPSU... all pre-connected? No fuss, no time wasted in screwing in the Mobo, putting electronic probing devices every step of the way. It's what two or three weeks more of headaches and verifications?

All i needed to do was sit, plug Speakers & Mouse (Dynax) & Keyboard (Logitech) & Printer (HP) and fire it all up. Fully supported, peace of mind.

Games runs waaaaaayyyyyy better than the P4 i replaced. Re-installation of precious softwares was the fun part.

The trick with electronics is that you're obsolete the minute you pick the boxes off the store(s) counter even if all in spare floating parts to match rather than plug'n'play.

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Quoting Zyxpsilon, reply 10

and im not afraid to build it mysel
You should.

Here's one good reason; +5 voltage secrets.

At 1200$ (Incl. PST/GST taxes) -- and with extended warrenty for two more years... i got a brand new Acer gear last Summer that will get ENTIRELY replaced or serviced if it ever somehow fails by Staples & Manufacturer.

I wasn't afraid either and yet with some genuine & legal OEM_VISTA-HP, SATA 500gigs, 3G_Ram, Core2-E4600, GeForce-8600GS, 22"LCD, 8 USB, 14-1/Card slots, Multi-DVD, 450wPSU... all pre-connected? No fuss, no time wasted in screwing in the Mobo, putting electronic probing devices every step of the way. It's what two or three weeks more of headaches and verifications?

All i needed to do was sit, plug Speakers & Mouse (Dynax) & Keyboard (Logitech) & Printer (HP) and fire it all up. Fully supported, peace of mind.

Games runs waaaaaayyyyyy better than the P4 i replaced. Re-installation of precious softwares was the fun part.

The trick with electronics is that you're obsolete the minute you pick the boxes off the store(s) counter even if all in spare floating parts to match rather than plug'n'play.


im sorry but my e8400 @ $600 with gforce 8800gt expansion card etc etc trumps your $1200 computer in price and performance, dont get me wrong for some one who wants to buy an off the shelf computer pre-made its not a bad deal but for a competent gamer who will build his own, its far cheaper to build it your self, one your not dealing with a middle man markup

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Oh i do agree, but the CAD$ was at par with US$ last summer. Imported & built in 02'08, i should add.

Meaning, i got about 400$ plus of value for the same "performance" *at the time of purchase*.

Markup or not, btw.

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Buying a computer from a manufacturer or small computer store is almost always considerably more expensive than building it for yourself - the one exception being very low end systems around the under $500 bracket.  If you know how to do it yourself, by all means do so.

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Quoting Facelessclock, reply 6
Just buy this: http://techreport.com/articles.x/16721/4

 
 

pretty good specs for the price.

sound card - unless you are into extreme sound for editing etc... you won't need to waste your money on a sound card. todays integrated sound card on the mobo are every bit as good as most sounds cards. no they are not the best but you would have to spend $200+ on a sound card to beat what you got onboard. thus a $50-$100 card is a waste money.

shop newegg.com they are tough to beat on price I have spent close ot $10,000 there in the last 5 years building systems for myself. friends and family. never had a problem with them. I have had to RMA 1 item (an MP3 player) due to DOA but that is not the eggs fault and they were morer than happy to RMA it.

lastly I would recommend building yourself. everything is under warranty from the manufacturer and about half of the components are warrantied for 3-5 yrs if you go with the right manufacturers. I would recommend PC Power & Cooling for the PSU. EVGA and XFX offer lifetime and double lifetime warranties on video cards.

with prebuilt systems they give you 1yr warranty which means they charge you extra for something they get for free if you want 2+ yrs.

 

 

 

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 Okay, this is what I came up with after tinkering with newegg for a while, how will this setup work out

 

NZXT LEXA Blackline Series CS-NT-LEXA-BLB Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM

HIS Hightech H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

 AMD Phenom 9950 Agena 2.6GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HD995ZXAGHBOX Retail

 GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-UD4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

 CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

 OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail

 

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If your going with that processor and AM2+ motherboard, ddr3 ram is not supported.  You wont lose performance going with 8 gigs of ddr2-800 or 1066 though, so no worries there.  The processor is clearly less powerful (relatively speaking) than the video card, which is fine for most games.  I am under the impression its mostly for gaming.  The power supply, 850w, is crazy overkill.  This computer wont use more than 400 watts under any circumstances, not even close to 400 even.  You could save some money and go for a 650w, or the 750w corsair is quite a bit cheaper even.  You'll get better efficiency doing so as well.  If you get any more money to spend I'd dump it on the processor/mobo, but that should be fine as is.

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does ddr3 make much of a difference over ddr2?

 

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The Phenom2 chips have a much larger memory cache, it's more than worth the upgrade.  This would be a mucho better choice.  Twenty bucks for 400Mhz and three times the cache size.

 

That DDR3 is what you need for a triple channel setup with the I7 processors.  With the setup you've picked, you need to get four 2 gig chips of DDR2.  I suggest getting a better board.  That one doesn't look real good in the price range either.  Regardless of what board you get and what memory you can use, you need pairs, not trios.

 

If you go with DDR3, you need an AM3 board, not AM2+, and an AM3 cpu.  That means an 810 instead of the 9550 you picked or the 920 I linked.  It's an improvement, but not really a big improvement.  Your real advantage will be a future upgrade.  An AM3 board will be capable of a lot more performance a couple years from now and you can get just a new processor and possibly have a 50% gain over what you'd be capable of with the AM2+.  1333Mhz memory instead of 800mhz memory, assuming they have a hotter AM3 socket processor that can use it to it's maximum potential.

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The Phenom2 chips have a much larger memory cache, it's more than worth the upgrade. This would be a mucho better choice. Twenty bucks for 400Mhz and three times the cache size.
what motherboard would be a good match to that particular processor?

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It's what two or three weeks more of headaches and verifications?

?!? 2-3weeks... hell ill have that up and running and OCed bios tweaked + updated and all apps installed in a afternoon+evening... thats not the hard part.

The "hard part" or as i see it the really fun part is picking out the best hardware and research it.

Reply #21 Top

The 9950 and 920 are both AM2+ chipset.  The one you picked will do just fine.  There are cheaper boards out there that do the same thing, but since you're getting a combo deal it's probably your best choice.  If you wanted to overclock the hell out of it, this is probably the best choice.

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Okay, new list of stuff, this better?

NZXT LEXA Blackline Series CS-NT-LEXA-BLB Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

HIS Hightech H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDX920XCGIBOX - Retail

Thermaltake Purepower W0121RU 600W ATX12V V2.0 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply - Retail

CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail (X2)

and this is all for just over $850.00

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That looks pretty good to me.  If you want to do some moderate-awesome overclocking, I'd recommend picking up an aftermarket hsf as well such as the Xigmatek S-1283 or OCZ Vendetta 2 (whichever is cheaper).  Since you got a fairly beefy videocard I'd recommend doing some processor overclocking, looks like a nice rig to me.

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Yeah, everything there should match up nicely.  Assuming AMD goes somewhere with AM3, that mobo gives you excellent upgrade capabilities.  You should be able to maintain a fairly high performance machine for quite a while at very little cost.

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now, vista or Xp?  Premium version or Home edition?