New Star Trek Theme............

That is so cool. I like it.

It's nice, but with having subscriptions to ObjectDesktop Ultimate and WinCustomize I can't see paying out more money.  Heck I caught some mild crap for not having Winstep.  Can only afford to do so much.

do I need hyperdesk to use it, or is like mycolors where it just works?

The suite comes with the program/patch to apply it (it's not like windowblinds...the hypersuites are msstyles).

I never watched TOS (I'm a Voyager fan) but the window frames on those themes are just so large, takes up too much space for me. The Windows themes from those hypersuites are a bit too plain and generic, they all kinda look alike. But the icons...always top notch (walls look good too).

long live to Windowblinds

As always, the SkinsFactory have put some quality work into this theme and it looks good, but sadly it's only for XP and Hyperdesk.

Yeah, that was most unfortunate.  Despite what people might think of SkinsFactory thoughts and ideas, they're a bunch of talented artists/skinners, and the skinning community doesn't need that sort of thing dividing it.  Personally, I miss the SkinsFactory's WB's and themes, but alas, I don't see them doing them again any time soon.

not any more...: Subspace Vista 

Big huge "start" button FTL. START is sooo XP and old. Less is more.

At first glance the hyperdesk themes look awesome...but once you get past the icons they seem to drop the ball. If the rest of the skins looked as good as the icons they'd have a hit.

Icons Look cool. The buttons in the theme IMO look out of place. To me it would have looked better with LCARS style of buttons like in the task bar, instead of the Big "Candy drop" looking ones there now. All in all it looks cool other than the Candy style buttons.

Tho I am drooling over this.. would love to see a matching WB for it..

http://skinsfactory.deviantart.com/art/Hyperdesk-DM-Subspace-Vista-115698029

That's a step in the right direction, and one I'm sure many Vista users will welcome and appreciate.

Hopefully the SkinsFactory will consider doing WindowBlinds again someday soon.

So I've heard... Good post. Doing Hyperdesk for XP makes sense, after all, it's about 50% of the market at this point. Never got into msstyles...heard not good things from a friend about treatment of customers (I'm NOT referring to Hyperdesk).

The thing that bothers me most, though is that like MacD, the burger you get doesn't really look like the one in the pic.

With the artistic talent here, I bet a TOS skin could come out as good as or better 

In short...

Same old junk!

I think you may be referring to TGTSoft and its flagship app, StyleXP here... they were operational one day and gone the next, without as much as a by your leave or thank you to their loyal customer, and worst of all, NO notice or warning.

I read/heard of cases where people requiring support received no replies to emails they had sent, not even an automated: "Sorry but we've gone out of business" , to explain the absence/lack of support.

I have a copy of StyleXP I can no longer use after reinstalling my OS (need a new installation No).  Oh well, it's no great loss, I've since discovered WindowBlinds and find it to be the superior UI customisation tool all-round.  Besides, WB doesn't hack system files so is the safer option anyway.

Pretty sure it was msstyles....

msstyles is actually the theme manager MS provides with Windows XP.... the hacked file (from which StyleXP is fashioned) allows users to apply themes other than those supplied by MS.  I don't know off-hand who came up with the original hack, but it was available in various releases and iterations from several sources.  So while there were a couple of companies other than TGTSoft who released programs based on the hack, the hack itself was fairly generic and most popular because it was free and available from several freeware sites, whereas StyleXP and the others weren't.

The greatest number of customer complaints that I know of, however, were against TGTSoft, though those were mainly for abandoning customers when it suddenly shut up shop without warning.

HI Leo!

Can always buy the suite, install it on an XP machine, and hack it into a WB... (If they actually release the vista version it would obviously be a better suite to start with.. :P).  It's perfectly legal (here in sweden at least, make *sure* it's legal where you're at before tinkering).

It would obviously be for personal use only, and tons of work to do, but well... Quite doable.

True, but I would rather see an Official WB built with all the bells and whistles.

Precicely!  Let's hope, then, the SkinsFactory reconsiders not doing them.

So much for the non-bashing. This is why you'll never see a Windowblinds skin out of us ever again. Thanks Leo for the original post, that was very cool. I'm glad you appreciate it.

So who's bashing it? All I see are people stating their preference for WindowBlinds.

That and mentioning a few obvious differences between the two skinning apps.

I don't really see any bashing going on here.  People are voicing their opinion about .msstyles and WindowBlinds, and they aren't knocking the designs.  It's the internet, criticisms are abound. 

Yeah, It's a regular love fest. Love the "it's junk" comment. Whatever. Same old story here. Just validates my point why I'll never bring our themes to Windowblinds. Why would we... "FTL" right?

About bringing the "bells and whistles"... even if we did work out some deal with Stardock to port our themes over to this format (which I'm almost fairly certain won't happen after my last call with Phil Madis) there wouldn't be much change to the themes. I don't want a rocket shift blasting up my start menu. that would get so annoying to me after the 2nd or 3rd time. I do not want animations on my windows theme. I work on my computer all day and night. The animations in my opinion are better served on media widgets and non-productive theme elements so they aren't a distraction. Don't get me wrong i love a good animation obviously but not on the actual theme.

Another reason besides all the haters here, we have no windowblinds distribution network, Where the hell would i sell them? I can't even comment using my real account?

And for the record... my real account was supposed to be unbanned. It's bit annoying having a member # of over 3,000,000 when my real ID # is like 4500. Considering I've been part of the skinning community 10 years now...