OBAMANATION, the new Democrat religion

Yep, for the most part the residuals of Christianity in America have all but disappeared. And since man always has a religion of one sort or another, the vacuum is being filled under the advent of Obama.....Obamanation.

Some of those I agree with and some I don't.

How about you list specific things that Obama, the Obama administration, or liberals have said to back up your commandments?

Okay.

Obama claims he's Christian, yet instead of Almighty God, he relies on Government to bring hope, consolation and peace of mind...and expects us to do the same. Hope can only come from the Word Incarnate, that is, from our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.    

Let's take

We learned early on from the mainstream media that it was practically a crime or should I say heresy to say Obama's full name...Barack Hussein Obama? Why was that?

So anyone who tries to bring hope to people through any other method is anti-God? What a depressing outlook to have - I'd be grateful to have people providing hope to others (assuming it's not a false hope). Why not just go with the clinging to guns+religion comment to back up point 1? It wouldn't apply fully, but it wouldn't be as negative a point/argument.

Because normally you don't mention someone by full name, and many of the people who did chose to emphasis the Hussein part of his name, no doubt in a bid to stir up a bit of racism and general negativism (since for example hussein was a name that happened to be shared with a dictator who we recently overthrew+had killed). Also did Obama himself actually condemn people using his full name, or are you just associating with Obama any comment or attitude made by anyone that might support him to some extent?

Given the above explanations, I'm curious to hear if anything similar was used to justify points such as 3 and 6

I disagree with this 100%.  Now that doesn't mean that I buy into Obama's version of "Hope" as a catchphrase but I have hope for the future and I don't need god or Jesus Christ to give it to me.  Hope is NOT a religious concept.

Excellent comment.  I too agree with some of the items, but definitely not all of them.  I prefer the term Obamamania for what has been happening.  Obama talks a great game (when scripted) and that motivated a lot of people to vote for him, but I have a feeling his vague slogans are going to start coming back to bite him very soon.  Once people realize that his version of "change" is not the same as what they had thought I see his popularity plummiting.  I certainly don't see Obama getting re-elected in 2012.

LULA POSTS:

AEORTAR POSTS:

The key to understanding my point is that I prefaced my statement by saying that Obama claims he's Christian, yet instead of relying upon Almighty God....

Hope is a virtue by which we firmly trust in God and that He will give us the means to obtain happiness. The enemies of hope are the vices of despair and presumption.

That's just it, Obama is giving false hope because Government isn't the solution to people's needs and happiness. Christ is.

In other words, Obama is presumptuously saying that hope is the end and Government is the means to that end.

EL-DUDERINO POSTS:

Just curious. Then where does the hope that you have in your heart come from then, if not from Almighty God?

aeortar posts:

Oh, c'mon? You know as well as I that when it comes to our Presidents, we know their middle names and certainly their middle initials. Right off the top of my head, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, William Jefferson Clinton, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Richard M. Nixon, John Quincy Adams, etc.

To my knowledge, every presidential candidate has been thoroughly vetted up until Obama came on the scene. Not so with Obama. We all knew very early on after Obama made his bid for the Whitle House, that saying his middle name was off limits otherwise for doing so one was accused of being racist or hateful, etc. Saying Obama's middle name has nothing to do with racism or being negative and the inference that it is is well, just plain stupid.

The mainstream media was so enamored with him that they didn't want certain things about his past life, his association with radicals and his Muslim family vetted. Instead of doing their job properly, they coddled, protected and treated him with "kid gloves". 

My hope comes from my knowledge that humans are a resilient species.  We have faced many trials and tribulations through our time on this earth and I have hope that we will be able to conquer anything that is thrown our way.  Some need faith in a diety to have that hope, my faith, if you want to call it that, is in humanity.

Anyone can have hope.  And they may or may not believe in a Christian god . . or any god.

#6 is the one that really made me go WTF.  I'd love to hear more on that one.

But how many of those presidents were referred to by their middle names when they preferred to be addressed by their first names?  During the run up to the election last year many on the right referred to Obama as B. Hussein Obama not Barack H. Obama.  How often was Kennedy referred to as J. Fitzgerald Kennedy or Clinto called W. Jefferson Clinton?

I'm certainly no fan of Obama's but that always bothered me.  If the guy wanted to be called Barack Obama that should have been respected.

I agree with you here, but it has nothing to do with his middle name.

Again I agree with you 100% here.

ZUBAZ POSTS:

First and foremost whatever God made is good and in itself, knowledge of it is good and co exists with God's perfect Justice. The Sixth Commandment of ALmighty God has reference to man's instinct for self or race propagation, an instinct which has been implanted in man by God.

According to the Church, the Sixth Commandment of Almighty God is "Thou shalt not commit adultery" specifically forbids those sins of impurity committed with another's wife or husband. In general the Sixth Commandment forbids all sins of impurity including adultery, fornication, birth control, homosexuality, masturbation and beastility.

Our sexual drive is a precious power given to us by God and the use of sexual activity in marriage is God's plan. So, obviously this sexual pleasure is not so much for the individual as for procreation of the human race, and hence to use it simply and solely for the purpose of self indulgence and self-gratification is contrary to the Holy Will and designs of Almighty God and stulifies His purpose. It makes for the ruin and destruction of society.

The virtue which checks, controls and chastens the sexual instinct is called Chastity.

Obama is the Democrat Party's newly "anointed one" and he was elected becasue he firmly believes these new commandments and has promised to base his policies upon them.

Take public education for example...and specifically permissive, explicit sex ed instruction to children from kindergarten through 12th grades which teaches our children: Sex....just do it---as long as you are ready, it's consensual and "safe" by use of a condom or birth control.   When Obama was talking on the subject of sex ed, he quipped that should one of his daughters become pregnant, he wouldn't want her punished for her mistake....His solution to the problem was for her to kill his grandbaby by abortion and not prevent the preganancy in the first place by teaching youngsters to practice chastity.

After all, no one can contract a venereal disease or become pregnant by practicing chastity, right?

And while I agree that many liberals have views I disagree with when it comes to life, I wouldn't say that they encourage abortions; they present it as an option.  There is a difference.

I was gonna ask you to define fornication, but I changed my mind.

A lot of people referred to our last president as "W."

But I agree the name thing is a bit silly and childish. There are a lot of real things to dislike about Obama, and his middle name (for me) isn't on that list.

I agree. And just a few weeks into his administration, people, even Liberals, like Jim Kramer, Rich Sintelli and Warren Buffet are saying uh, uh, something isn't right with the way he's leading our country.

Humbordt,

It's not about being silly, childish or disliking his middle name...it's the fact that he has it and it's a Muslim name that comes from his father, a black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya. But it was Lolo Soetoro, Obama's stepfather who introduced him to Islam by enrolling him in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Yet, instead of being proud of his Kenyan heritage and family, it's something he evidently didn't want the public to know about. And the mainstream and print media gladly obliged by repressing info that would have given the American public more info on his background and character.  (In stark contrast, the media rushed to Alaska scouring around every town and village trying to find something negative or bad about Sarah Palin.)

Anyone remember how Obama's campaign went ballistic over Jerome Corsi's best seller, The Obama Nation? I recently read a review of it and evidently it has copious footnotes and thousands of facts about Obama's personality and character, his friends and mentors who influenced him in shaping his worldviews and who he owes his ascendency to political power.

The evidence comes from Obama's own words and his two books, Dreams from My Father (which some believe is ghost written by Bill Ayers) and The Audacity of Hope in which Obama writes that "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

The reviewer wrote that Obama's books reveal him as having the personality of a man.....who came to believe that race is the issue that trumps all else and must be used for the redistribution of power and wealth. Obama sought out relationships with the socialist-radical Saul Alinsky, a pair of terrorists, the unapologetic bomb-thrower Bill Ayers and his Weather Underground associate Bernardine Dohrn, the Communist poet Frank Marshall Davis, leftwing Muslim-supporting politicians in Kenya, the corrupt political fixer Tony Rezko, and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright whose trademark preaching was laced with expletives of hate America and support of Louis Farrakhan.

Corsi's book quotes Obama's own words as he established his relationship with these radical characters and then, when they became embarrassments, progressively changed his responses in order to distance himself from his friends. Obama's disavowals are not persuasive.

My concern is the same as strategist and pollster, Mark Penn, who wrote that Obama lacks "American roots" and "is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values."

That he plans to release Al-Queda operatives from Gitmo is one more thing that's very heavy on my mind.

Not arguing any of that, but referring to him as B. Hussein Obama is childish, and any time it's brought up it makes the argument look petty. He didn't pick his middle name any more than I did (I hate my middle name, and don't tell anybody what it is unless they ask). His name doesn't worry me. His actions do.

clearly this is why people should leave commandment dispensing to the qualified. 

clearly you're misattributing this not committing chastity thing incorrectly.  it wasn't obama's daughters who were fornicating...it was the palin girl.  it also wasn't the obama girls who claimed abstinence was as realistic as your slanderous misrepresentation of what obama actually said vs what you're claiming he said--in other words, not realistic at all.

expanding or clarifying his position that comprehensive sex education resolves problems not addressed by "just say no" (which is, in fact, no education whatsoever), he said

"Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old.  am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."

at no time did he say, suggest or imply anything at all like this:

how many "some" people?  can you name any who have any credibility?  

This is what I wrote:

KINGBEE POSTS:

No, Kingbee, it certainly wasn't a slanderous misrepresentation to say what I said.  

Obama stated, "I've got two daughters, 9 years old and 6 years old.  I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. 

True....And so in Obama's view, the Palin girl made a mistake, became pregnant and is being punished by keeping the baby. He said he wouldn't want that for his two girls should they make a mistake...where is the audacity to hope there?

IN MY WORLD, A  BABY IS NEITHER A MISTAKE NOR A PUNISHMENT...THEY ARE GIFTS AND MIRACLES FROM GOD.  

Of Obama's comments, Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Christian Defense Coalition said

"Saying that single women could be 'punished with a baby,' is not only a slap in the face to every child born to a young mother, but it diminishes the great joy that children bring to their families regardless of the circumstances in which they were born."

"In America, we should be working to help young babies that are born in challenging situations and offering assistance and hope to their mothers.  We should not be condemning them by saying that somehow it has now become 'punishment' to have a child in this country".

by juxtaposing obama's actual words with your presumptive interpretation you have most definitely engaged in a deliberate misrepresentation.  in fact, obama didn't offer a solution to any problem except inadequate sex education.

(incidentally, you're the one who qualifies pregnancy as a problem requiring a solution.)

proof that you succeeded in misleading at least one person can be found in reply #15 in which the poster was directly responding to your obfuscation:

you too frequently play fast and loose with truth leading me--if no one else--to wonder whether you've instituted your own more elastic version of the commandment that originally prohibited bearing false witness.  sometthing along the lines of thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor unless said neighbor doesn't share your personal view of the world.

and yet the god of the old testament inflicted both pregnancies and abortions as punishment for sexual immorality did he not?

Just because you don't see a baby as a mistake or a punishment doesn't mean that everyone agrees with you.  To a young woman in high school who had plans on going to college it could be seen as a punishment if that child prevents them from going to college to pursue the career that they wanted.  In my wife's case a pregnancy could kill her, that is definitely a punishment.  It was my interpretation of Obama's actual comment that abortion should exist as an option for women, that doesn't mean anyone would be forced to have one.

KINGBEE POSTS:

In Obama's mindset, teaching the virtue of chastity or sexual abstinence until marriage only education is inadequate sex education. So, yes indeed, Obama offered the solution to the mistake problem, which is Doling out birth control devices and leading kids to abortion clinics if they make a mistake is part and parcel of comprehensive sex education.

Obama advocates that classroom sex educators teach vice... here's the birth control device and here's how to use it.... if you make a mistake, then (in Obama's word's ...instead of being punished with a baby), use Plan B, which is abortion.

Think what you will Kingbee.

On #6, my point is and has always been there are no "mistakes" when the virtue of chastity is taught and practiced.