First of all let me say that Mumbai blasts can never be though good and no civilized person, who has a belief in humanity, can do such shameful act. Life of every innocent human, regardless of his/her believes, color, ethnic background, is precious.

And let me say that if some gets hurt or feels bad with my opinion... I am really really sorry!

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Coming to topic, I can clearly say that roots this massacre are in fact within India! Look at a definition of Terrorism:

terrorism, act of terrorism, terrorist act (the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear)  (source: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=terrorism)

Means every act which threatens the common rights of a human is terrorism! Terrorism actually emerges from the lust of power, hunger and unlawful act of government!

Look at the condition of India, a country where almost 21.6% people are living under the line of poverty (India is currently housing 13% of global poor) Moreover, India also has 228 million people, or 20.6% of the population living below $2 a day. A country where cast system is so strong that the "shooders (slaves, unholy)" are not considered to be a human. A country where every 3rd member of Legislative assembly has a criminal background and a country where almost 12 independence movements are going on!

Even if you are not convinced with this, can someone tell me what actually 700,000 Indian army is actually doing Kashmir?

 

 

OMG! Docs a terrorists! Run fer yer lives!

I think the people who are afraid to trust certain people for the way they dress or where they come from have ALWAYS been afraid of the people who dress differently or come from some place else--they were just looking for an excuse to validate their fear.

 I'm speaking purely for myself here, it's kind of hard to take something that doesn't exist out of the picture.  I didn't actually DO anything to take God out of my picture (okay...maybe asking all those philosophical/spiritual questions that led to the conclusion "God" is illogical was an action, but it's not like I could help that; it's my nature), "God" pretty much just vanished from the picture the same way Santa Claus, and the monsters under my bed did.

Terrorism can happen to anyone anywhere.  It doesn't discriminate.  Whether for political agendas or for perverted religious beliefs.  There are and have always been people who can justify to themselves the taking of innocent lives because they are too impotent to work for their cause in a civilized manner.  True believers of any faith, political party or race who carry their beliefs to the point of fanaticism are a cancer and should be found and isolated from the balance of society.

Whether to have faith or not is not the issue.  What I am talking about is those that do have faith are afraid to be who they are because out of fear of offending people who don't.  Yes we, meaning people in general considering that 75% do have faith and the word "we" is used in the context that it was used, are taking God out of school out of government because they are afraid.  FEAR!

And my statement was nowhere near directed to you.  (i.e.: I'm speaking purely for myself here, it's kind of hard to take something that doesn't exist out of the picture.)   Only if you had faith would this be at you. 

This is an exaggeration... yes there are those who are bigoted but there are others that are in fear because we have told them to be afraid or becuase of a natural human responce, which is based on logic, to fear the people who look like or comefrom the same region that those who come to harm us do.  For one that uses logic to discern whether God exist should also be inclined to use logic in most if not all aspects of thier lives, not just the ones that make them feel comfortable. 

Also logicalness is the most narrow-minded, uncreative way of thinking which is a trait of us conservatives.  Which in turn is illogical for liberals to be.

where do you draw the line?

That door swings both ways.  This study shows the faithless are far more feared than the faithful. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1786422&page=1 

Everything is an exaggeration, because everything is relative.  We all measure our reality by our own experience, and it is NOT logic to fear a person based on clothing or religious preference--it's NATURAL to fear based on those things, if the subject has been told clothing and religious preference are to be feared, but it is not LOGICAL.  LOGIC means to take the thing at it's base value without emotion and judge it based on its own merits. 

That doesn't even make any sense.  I think we must have different definitions of the term logical.

I am just thankful that I was lucky enough to be born in Canada. Even though someday acts of terrorism could find targets here, right now and for the near future, I feel safe.

See? Someone learned something. Personally, I'm looking forward to WG producing skins for the new app we're developing.

For me it's the folks in the red hats...."Al-Linux" I think they're called.

Fanaticism = The redoubling of efforts after the goal has been forgotten.

Hi, cous! 

Don't let Fuzzy hear that! 

 

When I take over the world, Canadians will be on the protected species list.  Zubaz will not.

I like Canadians, I like Zebra's too

Bah-ha-ha-ha-ha!!    I'm going to be snickering about this for the next few days.

People have always used religion to repress others. It is not religions fault people pervert the teachings of any religion to fit their agenda. In every facet and walk of life there will be those mentally imbalanced folks who feel the need to Impress their beliefs/opinions on others, Religion is just their choice of scapegoat. With any thing People can get obsessive and go overboard with Pushing their ideals,morality,religion,etc...

Look at sport's,music, or any other world wide renowned event. Violence within concerts,football games,soccer games, etc are on the rise. Why? Hatred and intolerance will always be prevalent among these "mentally unbalanced folks" who need to push their superiority off on others, and as religion becomes less of a reason in an "enlightened society" to kill others off, new events which foster some sort of reason to harm others will take over as the scapegoat of choice.

The Dregs of society which feed off repressing others will always find an excuse to do so. Evil people using religion to cause mass havoc and death is not the religion doing it nor it's teachings, but is merely some loon who has chosen it as his BS excuse to hurt others..  I was taught religion was about love, kindness toward our fellow man, and forgiveness toward others. Never was it told to execute those who choose not to believe. Blame those who choose to commit crime in the name of religion, not the religion it's self.


I will defend my right to believe in religion to my dieing breath, and I will Defend your right to not believe in one as well. True freedom Is about choices without oppressors telling you what to believe. We do not need to remove or abolish religion to stop the wars and violence. Education and jailing those who wish not to be "enlightened" toward the civil rights of others, will do the job.

Actually, Karen...with WG's new app it's more like: 

Linux "Red Sombrero"

The American Citizenship exam in a nutshell: To be willing to fight to the death to defend another citizen's right to express an ideology which may be abhorrent to you.

Hg_E 

Just to clarify [pedantry is a pain]....'terrorism' is an ideology....it doesn't 'happen' at all.

'Terrorist acts' do, however ..... JAFOCHECK

Don't forget that propaganda about the threats of terrorist acts is one way of imposing more controls on a the citizenry of a country.  We have already seen it happen after 9-11.  Fear is a very useful tool for those in power.  Create enough paranoia about a group or groups and the people are not as hostile to a little more fat being trimmed off the constitution that was made to protect us from our own government as well as outside enemies.  George Orwell had it right , he just had the timing a little off.

Is your world safe from this, is what you should be worried about

I think his plastic surgeon should be struck off.

Personally...I feel people can believe what ever religion they want to feel secure in their insecurity. But when those beliefs affect my rights as a human being to live in peace or takes a country to war over them and innocent people lose the right to live...thats where "I" draw the line. Keep thy religions to thyself...period. Pray to invisible men....goats...whatever floats your boat...just keep it to thyself.

As far as I'm concerned all religions are a scam...hypocritical and should be locked away somewhere with pandoras box or in some rubber room somewhere. No good has ever come from religions...only death. And since when has a god needed money or a shopping mall or a ferris wheel...I mean seriously...do people really believe this kind of crap? Sorry if I offended anyone by saying that...but I find religions offensive and terroristic as well. Oh....and the bulletproof pope mobile...now there's faith in action! Even he knows its all bull!

 

 

Kind of hypocritical considering the second paragraph. 

 

Is not Stating your own Beliefs while Insulting those of others, being as intolerant as those Zealots who push Religion on those who choose not to believe?

 

Guess we should close all the religion based charities and keep the $$ donated to the Churches Soup Kitchens, housing for the poor,clothing donations etc? Religion in it's true form benefits all. The love and peace of people coming together to do good in the world IMO is irreplaceable.

 

I can pick appart anything and only focus on the bad, but It still would not be the full truth.

 

It's sad, that most wars are over Religion.. Religon is meant to spread the word of "peace".. ironic.. isn't it?

People should let others believe in what they want to believe in, and keep their religion to themselves, everybody seems to be Bible-bashing everyone else these days, religion can be a private thing, we don't need to push it onto others, people will find it themselves if they look hard enough, hello MORMONS we don't WANT you knocking on our doors.. ya never know, might start a war

Not sure if most wars were over religion.  War of independance, 1812, civil war, ww1, ww2, korea, VN were over ideals.  Now, the crusades, mayby the 2 isrealy wars were.  I'am sure if I wanted to spend more time, I could list a bunch more for both side, but I don't.

A lot of wars were to get the pesky invading pillaging Brits out.

Fortunately the best judges in England selected my ancestors for repatriation to Australia.

No...the FAITH of good-hearted people benefits all.  Religion is just a mark of tribal distinction which was necessary for survival in ancient times when Man had to endure the wild for survival.  Right now it (religion as opposed to spiritual faith) only serves to separate us, one from another, and delineate who our enemies are as dictated by ancient times.

I agree, but we don't need religion to do that.  We need less separation and more integration, with a focus on our humanity, not our spiritual depravity/or holiness.  When one man is labeled unclean by another man's religion, which was dictated thousands of years ago (in books that have been translated so many times by some scrupulous men and some not so scrupulous men) then "religion" is hindering the love and peace of all people coming together to do good in the world.  

I would have absolutely no problem with religion if it were secondary to an allegiance to the human race.  Most of the world's religions (especially the Abrahamic ones) place a higher allegience to a world that none of us has any first-hand experience in (paradise/heaven/eternal life with eternal reward) than on this present life and our interconnectedness to each other.

As for the soup kitchens and the faith-based charities...I wonder how long "the good people" would continue carrying out their charity if they were not allowed to proselytize or hand out literature at the same time they were handing out charity, AND had their tax exempt status revoked. The money to run those charities comes from somewhere, and there is someone in charge of overseeing how that money is used, and that person get some psychological benefit out of the kind of power that position entails.  Remove that power and that charity will cease to exist.  

Always, always, always, follow the money.

I'm not saying there aren't good people who belong to certain religions and hold to certain faiths, but those people would be just as good and generous if the organization they belong to would cease to be.  And if those people with their inherent goodness DIDN'T exist without the existence of their religion, then they aren't being charitable at all.  

Does it not say more about the character of a man/woman if they do good of their own accord, than to prove they love their deity?