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Stargate Atlantis News

Stargate Atlantis News

In two weeks on SciFi Channel, the final 3 episodes will begin airing, and, if I heard correctly, this will be followed by the Series Finale.

It is planned to go to 2 hour direct to DVD format after this.

Next year, there is to be a new series: Stargate Universe.

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Reply #51 Top

How do the ZPMs even work? Sometimes they can be exhausted, and sometimes they keep up massive functions for milennia. There's something fishy going on there. Anyway, the last episode was just a complete failure. There is no way that they would move the chair to area51 and not tell the only person that could use it. "Ooops, a single sentence and an hour in a chopper could have saved mankind. Sorry!". KIDS think like that. Humans MAY make that mistake. But this is a seasoned combat veteran who LIVES AND BREATHES strategy and has done so for the last 10 years. She should be shot for treason. Completely unbelievable. It was the execution of any plausability that character had.

Reply #52 Top

They tap into zero-point energy, and given that doing that in our universe causes all sorts of problems with exotic particles, they only extract it from the micro-universe that is contained within the module.  As more energy is extracted, the module gains entropy and eventually it becomes so difficult to get energy out that it might as well be depleted.

Quite how you create a micro-universe in a container in the first place without violating the laws of thermodynamics in our own universe, I don't know.  It must have been quite difficult and/or time-consuming, or the Ancients would have had lots of ZPMs lying around.  The reason that the Asurans were able to make so many is because they had lots of time not fighting a war, not to mention more numbers and no need for physical recuperation.

Reply #53 Top

Quite how you create a micro-universe in a container in the first place without violating the laws of thermodynamics in our own universe, I don't know.

It's easy.

You don't.

:)

Reply #54 Top

Quoting Heavenfall, reply 1
How do the ZPMs even work? Sometimes they can be exhausted, and sometimes they keep up massive functions for milennia. There's something fishy going on there.
Quoting Marvin, reply 2
They tap into zero-point energy, and given that doing that in our universe causes all sorts of problems with exotic particles, they only extract it from the micro-universe that is contained within the module.  As more energy is extracted, the module gains entropy and eventually it becomes so difficult to get energy out that it might as well be depleted.

Quite how you create a micro-universe in a container in the first place without violating the laws of thermodynamics in our own universe, I don't know.  It must have been quite difficult and/or time-consuming, or the Ancients would have had lots of ZPMs lying around.  The reason that the Asurans were able to make so many is because they had lots of time not fighting a war, not to mention more numbers and no need for physical recuperation.
For the both of you: Zero-Point Module. No violation of the laws of thermodynamics are taking place. The reason they can keep up massive functions for milennia yet fail is because of the relative demands of power. Keeping a city running dormant for 10,000 years underwater is obviously not anywhere near to what it takes to open a space/time rift, a wormhole, or a matter bridge. For obvious reasons, the exact amount of power of anything is never described, but it fits quite neatly with real-life physics theory.

What I'd like to know is what the hell powers the Stargates, instead. Is that ever explained, except that they can siphon power from eachother? It's been explained that it comes from the DHD, but given the enormouse power requirements supposedly necessary to open a stable wormhole, can't they just reverse-engineer the DHD's and use them as piecemeal power sources? Bah.

Quoting Heavenfall, reply 1
Anyway, the last episode was just a complete failure. There is no way that they would move the chair to area51 and not tell the only person that could use it. "Ooops, a single sentence and an hour in a chopper could have saved mankind. Sorry!". KIDS think like that. Humans MAY make that mistake. But this is a seasoned combat veteran who LIVES AND BREATHES strategy and has done so for the last 10 years. She should be shot for treason. Completely unbelievable. It was the execution of any plausability that character had.
What are you talking about? Sheppard isn't the only one that can use the chair. Anyone with the ATA gene can use the chair, but he and Beckett are the only ones with actual experience - that's why they wanted John on Earth.

John was told immediatly when it became relevant for him to know.

Reply #55 Top

Doesn't refute the fact that the last episode was a complete and utter farce.

Reply #56 Top

Doesn't refute the fact that the last episode was a complete and utter farce.

The last episode wasn't that dumb it was atleast one of the better ones, but the wormhole drive was more of a plothole drive lol

BTW have they got a date on Stargate Universe season 1? A guy can dream can't he?

Reply #57 Top

It was that dumb, and it was far from one of the best (or even better) episodes.

 

And yup, a guy can dream about Stargate Universe.

He can dream that it will be better than the last season of Atlantis.

Dream on... dream on. We'll see.

Reply #58 Top

...it'd be hard to be worse than the last season of Atlantis.

Reply #59 Top

Quoting Luckmann, reply 4

Quoting Heavenfall, reply 1Anyway, the last episode was just a complete failure. There is no way that they would move the chair to area51 and not tell the only person that could use it. "Ooops, a single sentence and an hour in a chopper could have saved mankind. Sorry!". KIDS think like that. Humans MAY make that mistake. But this is a seasoned combat veteran who LIVES AND BREATHES strategy and has done so for the last 10 years. She should be shot for treason. Completely unbelievable. It was the execution of any plausability that character had.What are you talking about? Sheppard isn't the only one that can use the chair. Anyone with the ATA gene can use the chair, but he and Beckett are the only ones with actual experience - that's why they wanted John on Earth.
John was told immediatly when it became relevant for him to know.

It was relevant the moment he set foot on earth. The idea to keep him out of the loop potentially disabled a significant advantage and probably would have doomed mankind if  they hadn't gotten very lucky. Noone in a command position would make that decision so poorly.

Reply #60 Top

Quoting Mazuo, reply 8
...it'd be hard to be worse than the last season of Atlantis.

I actually think that this last season was very hit-or-miss. It had a decent number of episodes that I thought were way above average, but the reset of the episodes were kind of blah. And the way they ended the series was jerry-rigged and anticlimactic.

And I'm surprised nobody mentioned the second-to-last episode. It was kind of interesting, and if it were in the middle of a season I wouldn't have minded. But as the penultimate episode of the show? I felt no connection to the characters because I knew they weren't my characters. And with a minor modification to the dialogue of the finale, the previous episode would've been completely unnecessary (just spend a few more minutes figuring out how the wraith signal with earth's location could've happened). By making it a proper two-parter I think they could've have taken more or less the same plot and made it actually work.

Quoting Luckmann, reply 4

What I'd like to know is what the hell powers the Stargates, instead. Is that ever explained, except that they can siphon power from eachother? It's been explained that it comes from the DHD, but given the enormouse power requirements supposedly necessary to open a stable wormhole, can't they just reverse-engineer the DHD's and use them as piecemeal power sources? Bah.

I've wondered the same thing. And they made the problem even worse when they introduced tiny itty bitty devices that could be stuck onto a stargate with no DHD to dial out (SG Continuum).

Quoting Luckmann, reply 4
What are you talking about? Sheppard isn't the only one that can use the chair. Anyone with the ATA gene can use the chair, but he and Beckett are the only ones with actual experience - that's why they wanted John on Earth.

John was told immediatly when it became relevant for him to know.

What was retarded was the decision to try to attack the hive ship with a small fleet of 302s. Seriously, if 3 daedalus class spaceships with their beam weapons, nukes and 302s didn't even make a scratch on the hive ship, what in the hell possessed them into thinking that some 302s, even with nukes, were going to accomplish anything? It might have been sensible if they didn't send Shepherd, the person supposed to use the chair, off with them. After all if he were sitting in the chair when the darts attacked the chair probably wouldn't have been destroyed.

Reply #61 Top

Oh snap, i forgot all about them destroying the chair. I mean, seriously? I was partial to that thing! It's stuck around for a long time, and they just have two darts blow up the MOST POWERFUL WEAPON EXCEPT FOR ATLANTIS and everyone is just like "Well, that sucks." Plus, where was Landry? Or Jack? THE WORLD WAS BEING INVADED BY VAMPIRES IN DAMN BIG SPACE SHIPS and they had Sam and Major Davis running the defense? By the way, poor Major Davis. He's been a major since he was introduced, which was like season three or something. Poor guy. Promote him, plz!

And even how the hive ship was destroyed was BS. They were shooting nukes and Asgard beams at it, and all it took was a brief flurry of drones to take it out??? It took way more than that to kill Anubis' fleet, and he was just a Goa'uld!

And also, Beckett flying THE WHOLE DAMN city and fighting THE BIG DEMON HIVE and not caring? I happen to remember him almost pooping himself every time Rodney asked him to sit in the chair even when there was no power! WTF??

I could go on, but I've been tryng not to rant. Sry.

 

This is the only thing that really gets to me. When an awesome series with the potential to be awesomer fails. So saddening.

:cylon:

Reply #62 Top

Well it wasn't the worst episode ever, actually it was more exiteing but was wrapped up so fast your head spun. Now the second last episode now that was the worst one.....pointless. Ya just watch the whole dumb thing to see one plot element for the finale; ah well.

Reply #63 Top

Quoting SSAF, reply 11
And even how the hive ship was destroyed was BS. They were shooting nukes and Asgard beams at it, and all it took was a brief flurry of drones to take it out??? It took way more than that to kill Anubis' fleet, and he was just a Goa'uld!

The drones that Atlantis was firing at the hive ship didn't do anything. Atlantis was being annihilated by the hive ship, which hardly seemed to notice the drones. The destroyed the hive by detonating nukes inside of it. Remember, that's why Shepherd flew into the hive ship in the first place - he was planning on a suicide mission but then he figured out the rest of his team got there by stargate, and that there was a way off the hive.

Reply #64 Top

Quoting Psyco567, reply 12
Well it wasn't the worst episode ever, actually it was more exiteing but was wrapped up so fast your head spun. Now the second last episode now that was the worst one.....pointless. Ya just watch the whole dumb thing to see one plot element for the finale; ah well.
I agree. I really, really enjoyed the end episode, but it was horribly, horribly marred by being a single episode, instead of the proper 3-parter.

Reply #65 Top

Quoting Luckmann, reply 14
I agree. I really, really enjoyed the end episode, but it was horribly, horribly marred by being a single episode, instead of the proper 3-parter.

You just wanted there to be more bears...

Reply #66 Top

Quoting Sole, reply 15
You just wanted there to be more bears...
Well.. it couldn't have hurt!

:(O