Fuel cells are a good next step, and a hydrogen economy may be a necessary intermediary before converting to the energy economy of the third millennium. But they are not a long term solution. Fuel cells still require FUEL. the hydrogen has so be extracted from something, and that process takes energy. that energy will most likely still come from burning hydrocarbons in the near term. so fuel cells are not the answer. |
We are talking past each other. You claimed that Bush is all about oil. My point is that that is really not the case. If you want to argue that Bush's energy program relies on fossil fuels than I'm with you. Yes, Bush's plan relies on fossil fuels. And "clean coal" is pretty clean these days.
We need a robust multi-source energy economy. That means wind, where there is wind, solar, where the days are long and there are no clouds, ethanol where there is soil and rainfall, and limited hydropower where there are mountains and snow. Space solar also represents enormous potential. Ultimately though, we will need to master fusion reactors. And ultimately (foreseeable future), it will be Helium-3, not hydrogen, deuterium, or tritium, that will be the most practical fusion fuel. John Kerry is the only one talking about these possibilities. |
Wind and solar aren't even remotely sufficient for our energy needs. And they both take a lot of energy to construct in the first place -- it takes years just for them to make up the energy they themselves consumed let alone starting to provide a net benefit. Hydro is pretty tapped out already for easy to construct places and other places would be immensely costly in terms of energy use to construct. Space solar is a joke, I can't bleieve you would suggest that as having enormous potential. Fusion power sure, why not, great. But that's not a plan, that' sa wish.
Talking about possibilities is silly. We need a real plan. Not a wish list. Heck, let's talk about warp drive and anti-mater reactors while we're at it.
If you are a businessman, I find it odd that you are not insistent that we have a renewable energy source. |
You are obviously not a businessman so let me tell you a little bit about it - being a business man is a lot like being an engineer, you have to be pragmatic. I don't worry about us running out of oil or coal or other fossil fuels. Peak production issues on oil are an issue but there is no shortage of existing energy sources for the next few centuries.
Secondly, as a business man, I have to deal with reality as it is, not as I wish it to be. I can WISH we had fusion power or anti-matter plants just l ike I can wish we had transporters and warp drive. But that isn't a plan. Kerry isn't offering a plan, he's offering a vision of a future without the ability to achieve it.
Bush gets attacked because he puts forward an actual plan that lives in the realm of reality. You don't like fossil fuels. Fine. I'm not fond of them either. But give me an alternative then. A real alternative. Don't sit back and wave your hand saying "oh, solar and wind and space based energy collectors will do the trick" because that's just ridiculous. This issue has been discussed by far smarter people than myself who have concluded that at best, these renewable resources could make up maybe 5% of our total energy if we did a massive (expensive) investment in their construction. But 20%? No way.
Have you ever calculated how many terrajoules of energy this country uses each year? Not even counting the cars, it's enormous. Solar and wind is a drop in the bucket.
And there's no evidence that Kerry will be strong against any political pressure. He always seems to take the path of least resistance.
If you REALLY want to not be dependent on foreign energy sources then you ahve to look at COAL and NUCLEAR POWER. Those are your realistic choices today. At least until warp drive arrives.