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What's Wrong With Palin?

What's Wrong With Palin?

It almost seems that the left hates Palin more than they hate Bush.  She seems to be the focus of every left-leaning website and publication out there on a daily basis.  The attacks on her and her family have been nothing short of discusting.  I have even had liberals tell me straight out, "she scares me".  Of course, when I ask for specifics they don't seem to have an answer, much like asking them about Obama's accomplishments.

I do understand how a strong, conservative woman like Palin can be intimidating to liberals, I mean she is tougher than most of them.  However, I'm curious as to what is the basis of all this hate.  Is it just because she's a conservative, or are there real reasons to fear her?

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Reply #201 Top

actually no, think about it. john McCain (if elected)
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Actually no, think about it.  Obama's parents are dead, and died at an age not much older than he is now.  McCain's mother is still a very active 90+.  No one is guaranteed tomorrow, and if we are going on genetics, McCain has nothign to worry about, but Obama sure does.

Reply #202 Top

Quoting Daiwa, reply 24
We should all prepare ourselves.  As bad as all the smug condescension has been here the last couple of weeks, it's only going to get worse if/after BO wins.  Not a problem for me, but they're going to be even more insufferably boorish with their 'Your mother wears army boots!' arguments.
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That is a given.

Reply #203 Top

Quoting Dr, reply 201


actually no, think about it. john McCain (if elected)
Actually no, think about it.  Obama's parents are dead, and died at an age not much older than he is now.  McCain's mother is still a very active 90+.  No one is guaranteed tomorrow, and if we are going on genetics, McCain has nothign to worry about, but Obama sure does.

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well i dont kno the genetics of either, but i am curious as to how Obamas parents died, i cant seem to find an article about it. As far as John McCain goes, well hes had a ton of different diseases, various broken bones, infections etc. so im worried that McCain will get something bad & wont b able 2 lead if hes elected, thus leaveing the fate of the country in the hands of some1 like Palin

Reply #204 Top

If u checked his medical records, hes had a shit-load of problems, the latest of wich i believe is a form of skin cancer.
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So what? What does having had a form of skin cancer have to do with running the presidency? Why such shallow thinking? Bill Clinton never offered his medical records for public scrutiny. For all we know, He could have far worse than a form of skin cancer, right?

BLAD3MASTR POSTS:

actually no, think about it. john McCain (if elected) will b the oldest president we have ever voted in.
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So what? Again, why the shallow type thinking? From what I can tell, for the most part as far as his country is concerned, McCain has led a most honorable and distinguished career, right?

Palin is 1 of the least qualified ppl to b president.
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Hold your horses! What  were Bill Clinton's qualifications for running for President as opposed to Palin's whose running for VP?

As far as executive experience which is what Presidency is.....Obama has zippo...none....while Palin was mayor and governor and in charge of Alaska's National Guard. She went overseas visiting them....Obama didn't go until he was pressed to do so and even then ignored the troops...

Obama is an elitist bum who votes to keep killing babies in the womb and even those who survive botched abortions. He's bad for America.   

 

Reply #205 Top

what r all the McCain/Palin supporters gonna do? after watching some of the latest Palin speeches, im worried about the radicals who scream "kill him" and "terrorist". im pretty sure that palin herself is fanning these flames on purpose. she might b planning on a witch hunt of her own, & whos to say that a mad disallusioned mob wont go too far?
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This has turned out to be something of an urban/media myth.  The Secret Service detail accompanying Palin has gone on record saying the 'kill him' remark never happened.  Furthermore, there's been nothing more rowdy at any of her appearances than you would hear about Bush or McCain at any Obama rally.  Far worse things are routinely said about Bush every frickin' day of the week and it's an abject pathetic joke that the media is suddenly so 'disgusted' at such behavior, such 'inciting of hatred'... just where the hell have they had their heads the last 8 years?  Up their asses, of course.  Same place BO's hate-spewing supporters have had theirs.

Reply #206 Top

Obama is an elitist bum who votes to keep killing babies in the womb and even those who survive botched abortions.

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So no change there.

Reply #207 Top

well i dont kno the genetics of either, but i am curious as to how Obamas parents died, i cant seem to find an article about it.
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I googled it and found out his mother died of Cancer in 95 (I think).  At 53.  Only 6 years older than he is. 

As far as John McCain goes, well hes had a ton of different diseases, various broken bones, infections etc. so im worried that McCain will get something bad & wont b able 2 lead if hes elected, thus leaveing the fate of the country in the hands of some1 like Palin
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And survived them.  Have you never heard the expression "that which does not kill us, makes us stronger"?  It is based on the premise that adversity - and immunization - makes us healthier and better.  Able to withstand future maladies.

It is fine that you dont like Palin.  WHy dont you tell us why you do not like her.

Reply #208 Top

So, I read that 24th comment on this thread and followed all of this evolution debate here. Well, personally I think it is wrong to promote Intelligent Science into school, since it is mere opinion (not even psudoscience, if you ask me) but here we have some believers so I won't touch this further.

 

I believe, other than science issues, I really don't see she is disqualified as a vice president. She is inexperienced, so what? Obama is also relatively inexperienced. I think she is an average politican in America, and the vice president is not a critical role in USA's political system. I really see no problems other than a fact that she really does not help McCain to win the election.

 

I think, that's the problem. She is not harmful, but nor helpful to McCain. In contrast, Obama's choice, Sen. Biden certainly is not harmful to Obama, and a little bit helpful regarding experience and foreign affair. Palin is just average choice, while Biden is good choice.

Reply #209 Top

people who are pro choice or pro life tend to already know who they vote for. People undecided about that issue can go about other things. Pointing out obamas or mccain stance on abortion is really pointless, everyone knows.

So if you are trying to convince people to join "your side" so to speak, you should be more concerned with thier stances on economy, foreign policy, etc...

Reply #210 Top

WNMNKH POSTS:

So, I read that 24th comment on this thread and followed all of this evolution debate here. Well, personally I think it is wrong to promote Intelligent Science into school, since it is mere opinion (not even psudoscience, if you ask me) but here we have some believers so I won't touch this further.
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I won't belabor the point any longer but wish to say that  if by Intelligent Science you mean Intelligent Design, with the wave of modern science, it is more than just mere opinion. The science of Paleontology, Genetics and Geology, to name a few, confirms and substantiates more Special Creation theory (e.g. typology) while discrediting "molecules to mankind" evolution theory (e.g. transformation crossover among species).

And besides, why should only an "molecules to mankind" "scientific" atheism be taught in schools when that is only opinion as well? It's time our school kids got both sides of the Origins debate.  

  

She is inexperienced, so what?
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Why do you say Palin is inexperienced when she has been mayor and governor of Alaska? That's more executive experience than Bill Clinton had when he ran for the Presidency! She also got more guts than alot of the Washington crowd...

Read this email I got from a friend.....

When I wrote the email, I was merely responding to friends and clients in the lower 48, who were asking me about Governor Sarah Palin.  Kathy and I are simple folks and life time Alaskans who run a lodge on the remote Alaska Peninsula.  I am a bush pilot and guide for the same operation that I started as the camp boy, back in 1966.  Kathy and I both pitch in to respond to emails and inquiries about fishing and hunting with us Alaska.  Although we have enjoyed many of your emails, the two of us just can't keep up with all of the questions that we are recently receiving, so I have posted the following:

Below is a copy of my original email which I sent to friends and clients.  These are my personal comments as a life time Alaskan, and you may or may not choose to share them with your friends, but you do have my permission:

Dear Friends. 

Fishing is good here at Wildman and I rarely have time for politics, but many of our  friends are asking us "Who is Sarah Palin?"  Of course, as Alaskans, Kathy and I are extremely proud of her. We just want to let you know that  Sarah "Barracuda" Palin is a straight shooting, hard charging, get it done gal.  She knows when to listen, how to analyze the facts and how to make a decision, then implement the plan.  She doesn't do a poll before jumping in with both feet like too many of the Washington types.  She has little legislative experience because she has always held the EXECUTIVE position; in private life, as mayor of Anchorage's largest bedroom community or more recently as Governor of our S tate.  She is a smart, attractive home grown Alaska girl with excellent moral and family values.  She can see what needs to be done and does not hesitate to get it done.

One of our State's major problems is that its Capital is in Juneau, 500 miles from the nearest road and 800 air miles from the population base which is Anchorage, Wasilla and Fairbanks.  Our legislature and most of the State government is in Juneau and they ALL behave like a bunch of freshmen in a college town.  It has been this way since Statehood in 1959.  When Sarah moved to Juneau, so did accountability and responsibility  When the oil revenue started flowing and a barrel of North Slope Crude hit $23.00, these people began spending money like drunken sailors.  You can only imagine what was happenings when oil hit $100.00 a barrel, about the time Sarah took command.  My wife Kathy has first-hand experience with this fiasco, as her father and also her ex-husband were Alaska Legislators who served in Juneau as Senators, Senate President, or members of the State House for a combined period spanning nearly three decades.

About the time Sarah took the HELM as Governor of Alaska, about half of the State legislature was in the pocket of big oil companies or contractors doing big projects for Native Corporations around Alaska, all funded by State oil revenue.  Alaska government was nothing but a good old boys club riding the perpetual wave of prosperity.  This filtered down from the legislature, through the Department of Natural Resources,  Department of Labor and even spilled in to the Public Safety who are supposed to "preserve and protect".

When Sarah walked  into the Governor's Mansion, she promptly dismissed the State Trooper detachment assigned to Governor and had her and her husband's gun case brought in from Wasilla. Then, she got rid of the former Governor's STATE Jet and told legislators that there were no more free rides, they would have to fly Alaska Airlines, just like her and her family if they wanted to travel.  Next came the nut cutting (the Barracuda part) the heads that rolled were too numerous to name, but when Sarah finished cleaning house, a number of our legislators ended up in jail  on corruption charges, or tendered their resignations along with numerous department heads and those who have been riding the gravy train for way too long,  AND THEN SHE HAD LUNCH.  By the end of the day, Sarah Palin had saved the people of Alaska millions and has not yet slowed down.

She has truly brought CHANGE to Juneau.  I personally know persons in the private sector in Alaska, that hold her in high esteem.  She surrounds herself with smart people, many from my hometown of Anchorage, she listens to them but makes her own decisions.  Sarah Palin is a no B.S. politician.  It is refreshing that there is such a thing anymore.  You want to talk about CHANGE?  You should see a before and after picture of the State government in Alaska.  That's CHANGE!  Sarah will bring a number of things to the election.  I am sure she will appeal to many voters who may otherwise could have gone the other direction on election day.  The conservative block will not be for Barack.  We have their vote.  We need what Sarah will bring, first to the election and second, what she will bring to Washington D.C.  McCain has been advised well,  Let's just hope the American people can get the straight scoop on her in the weeks ahead.   This is just the opinion of one Alaska Bush Pilot and Guide, who pays attention to national politics, watches the news and is deathly afraid of the direction our nation is headed.  I guarantee that if Sarah gets a chance to dig her spurs into the flanks of the liberal Washington types, they will know that she is in the saddle.

Butch King   Pilot/Guide

Butch & Kathy King

Proprietors     Wildman Lake Lodge

Obama is also relatively inexperienced.
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Relatively???? He's had no executive experience whatsoever! And for the time he's been in the US Senate, he's voted present all too often showing he's unable or unwillingly to take a stand on matters put before him in the Senate.

Reply #211 Top

So, I read that 24th comment on this thread and followed all of this evolution debate here.
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Heh, that was me... :blush:

I've seen some quotes from that reply pop up here and there with their two cents attached without reading my follow ups.  For those who believe I was saying that Palin was advocating for and trying to force those 'science' :puke: issues to be brought up in public schools, what was not what I was going after.  With that reply, I was merely addressing the question of why don't I like her?  For the record, I like debating Lulapilgrim on evolution.  It brings me great joy, but I won't continue it on this thread.  

P.S.:  I know I still didn't write that article we had mentioned a little, Lula...things have been really busy as of late.  Not much time to sit down and collect thoughts to express; it has been go, go, go, maybe eat or sleep... #:(   I suspect my next blog will be about personal things anyway, so we'll see if I can get back into the swing of things here in the weeks to come.

Reply #212 Top

Thanks Kurtin for the follow-up....

I too have greatly enjoyed the evolution debate....

Don't trouble yourself over being busy with life outside JU.

 

 

I was merely addressing the question of why don't I like her?
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What do you think of my #210 post on Palin?  

Reply #214 Top

Quoting lulapilgrim,
BORNAGAINATHEIST POSTS: Fear of if/when she takes over for McCain. ....... It just cannot be allowed to happen. Can't be allowed to happen? Interesting choice of words....How far will Obamians go to make sure this "cannot be allowed to happen"? Is this why there is so much voter fraud going on in Ohio? WNMNKH POSTS: This thread is for Palin, but why do I see evolution debate here?I think it goes back to Kurtin's comment #24......if you care to follow the discussion, I think you'll find it is interestingly relevant.
End of lulapilgrim's quote

 

oh, please...  classic inflamatory distortion.  we cannot allow it by not voting, or voting for McPalin.

Reply #215 Top

Quoting Daiwa,
Boorish, elitist, scripted talking points.
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what exactly is boorish, elistist, and scripted about what I wrote?

Reply #216 Top


Relatively???? He's had no executive experience whatsoever! And for the time he's been in the US Senate, he's voted present all too often showing he's unable or unwillingly to take a stand on matters put before him in the Senate.
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Can you give me one example of Obama voting "present" since he's been in the US Senate?

Reply #217 Top

Quoting bornagainatheist, reply 15



Daiwa

Boorish, elitist, scripted talking points.


what exactly is boorish, elistist, and scripted about what I wrote?
End of bornagainatheist's quote

You wrote something?  Might want to try re-writing it since it was apparently lost and gibberish was left in its place.

Reply #218 Top

Can you give me one example of Obama voting "present" since he's been in the US Senate?
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Or attending committee meetings, roll call votes, real votes, doing work - of any kind?

Reply #219 Top

 

Lula posts:



Relatively???? He's had no executive experience whatsoever! And for the time he's been in the US Senate, he's voted present all too often showing he's unable or unwillingly to take a stand on matters put before him in the Senate.
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DAVAD70 POSTS:

Can you give me one example of Obama voting "present" since he's been in the US Senate?
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DR GUY POSTS:

Or attending committee meetings, roll call votes, real votes, doing work - of any kind?
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Obama's voting "present" was when he was in the Illinois state Senate, but while in the US Senate, he's on record for "not voting" especially in his second year waayyy tooo many times. (and this is just a very small sampling..)

During his stint as Senator during the 109th Congress, his "not voting" record inlcuded:

9/05/06 #231 ON Nomination of PN1594, "Kimberly Ann Moore, of Virginia, to be US Circuit Judge for Federal Circuit...and on 5/08/06 # 115, ON cloture on motion to proceed S.22, "A bill to improve patient acess to health care services and provide medical care by reducing the excessive burdens the liability system places on health care delivery systems." and on 4/25/06, #93, Nomination of PN1187, "Gray Hamptom Miller, of Texas, to be US District Judge for the Southern District of Texas."

Voting Record

Senator Obama's Voting Record for the 110th Congress

View the record for the previous 109th Congress.

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Session Date Vote Question
Description
Result Position
213 2 10/01/08 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 1424
A bill to provide authority for the Federal Government to purchase and insure certain types of troubled assets for the purposes of providing stability to and preventing disruption in the economy and financial system and protecting taxpayers, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for energy production and conservation, to extend certain expiring provisions, to provide individual income tax relief, and for other purposes.
Bill Passed (74-25, 3/5 majority required) Yea
212 2 10/01/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424 (A bill to provide authority for the Federal Government to purchase and insure certain types of troubled assets for the purposes of providing stability to and preventing disruption in the economy and financial system and protecting taxpayers, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for energy production and conservation, to extend certain expiring provisions, to provide individual income tax relief, and for other purposes.)
In the nature of a substitute.
Amendment Agreed to (74-25, 3/5 majority required) Yea
211 2 10/01/08 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 7081
A bill to approve the United States-India Agreement for Cooperation on Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy, and for other purposes.
Bill Passed (86-13, 3/5 majority required) Yea
210 2 10/01/08 On the Motion (Motion to Concur in the House Amdt. To the Senate Amdt. to H.R. 2095)
A bill to amend title 49, United States Code, to prevent railroad fatalities, injuries, and hazardous materials releases, to authorize the Federal Railroad Safety Administration, and for other purposes.
Motion Agreed to (74-24) Yea
209 2 9/29/08 On the Cloture Motion H.R. 2095
A bill to amend title 49, United States Code, to prevent railroad fatalities, injuries, and hazardous materials releases, to authorize the Federal Railroad Safety Administration, and for other purposes.
Cloture Motion Agreed to (69-17, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
208 2 9/27/08 On the Motion (Motion to Concur in the House Amendment to the Senate Amendment to H.R.2638)
A bill making appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2008, and for other purposes.
Motion Agreed to (78-12) Not Voting
207 2 9/27/08 On the Cloture Motion H.R. 2638
A bill making appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2008, and for other purposes.
Cloture Motion Agreed to (83-12, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
206 2 9/26/08 On the Motion to Proceed S. 3604
A bill making emergency supplemental appropriations for economic recovery for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2008, and for other purposes.
Motion to Proceed Rejected (52-42, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
205 2 9/23/08 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 6049
A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for energy production and conservation, to extend certain expiring provisions, to provide individual income tax relief, and for other purposes.
Bill Passed (93-2) Not Voting
204 2 9/23/08 On the Motion (Motion to Waive C.B.A. Baucus Amdt. No.5635)
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend certain expiring provisions, and for other purposes.
Motion Agreed to (84-11, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
203 2 9/23/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5634 to H.R. 6049 (Renewable Energy and Job Creation Act of 2008)
To provide alternative minimum tax relief, and for other purposes.
Amendment Rejected (53-42, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
202 2 9/23/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5633 to H.R. 6049 (Renewable Energy and Job Creation Act of 2008)
In the nature of a substitute.
Amendment Agreed to (93-2, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
201 2 9/17/08 On Passage of the Bill S. 3001
An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2009 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.
Bill Passed (88-8) Not Voting
200 2 9/16/08 On the Cloture Motion S. 3001
An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2009 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.
Cloture Motion Agreed to (61-32, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
199 2 9/10/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 4979 to S. 3001 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2009)
To repeal the requirement for reduction of survivor annuities under the Survivor Benefit Plan by veterans' dependency and indemnity compensation.
Amendment Agreed to (94-2) Not Voting
198 2 9/10/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5280 to S. 3001 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2009)
To authorize, with an offset, an additional $100,000,000 for Procurement, Defense-wide, and an additional $171,000,000 for Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation, Defense-wide, for near-term missile defense programs and activities.
Amendment Rejected (39-57) Not Voting
197 2 9/08/08 On the Cloture Motion S. 3001
An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2009 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.
Cloture Motion Agreed to (83-0, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
196 2 7/31/08 On the Concurrent Resolution H.Con.Res. 398
A concurrent resolution providing for an adjournment or recess of the two Houses.
Concurrent Resolution Agreed to (48-40) Not Voting
195 2 7/31/08 On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed S. 3001
An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2009 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.
Cloture on the Motion to Proceed Rejected (51-39, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
194 2 7/31/08 On the Conference Report H.R. 4137
A bill to amend and extend the Higher Education Act of 1965, and for other purposes.
Conference Report Agreed to (83-8) Not Voting

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193 2 7/31/08 On the Conference Report H.R. 4040
A bill to establish consumer product safety standards and other safety requirements for children's products and to reauthorize and modernize the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
Conference Report Agreed to (89-3) Not Voting
192 2 7/30/08 On the Cloture Motion S. 3335
A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend certain expiring provisions, and for other purposes.
Cloture Motion Rejected (51-43, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
191 2 7/30/08 On the Cloture Motion S. 2035
A bill to maintain the free flow of information to the public by providing conditions for the federally compelled disclosure of information by certain persons connected with the news media.
Cloture Motion Rejected (51-43, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
190 2 7/29/08 On the Cloture Motion H.R. 6049
A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for energy production and conservation, to extend certain expiring provisions, to provide individual income tax relief, and for other purposes.
Cloture Motion Rejected (53-43, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
189 2 7/28/08 On the Cloture Motion S. 3297
A bill to advance America's priorities.
Cloture Motion Rejected (52-40, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
188 2 7/28/08 On the Motion (Motion to Instruct Sgt. At Arms)
A bill to advance America's priorities.
Motion Agreed to (87-3) Not Voting
187 2 7/26/08 On the Cloture Motion S. 3186
A bill to provide funding for the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program.
Cloture Motion Rejected (50-35, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
186 2 7/26/08 On the Motion (Motion to Concur in the House Amendment to Senate Amendment to the House Amendments to the Senate Amendment to HR 3221)
A bill to provide needed housing reform and for other purposes.
Motion Agreed to (72-13) Not Voting
185 2 7/25/08 On the Cloture Motion H.R. 3221
A bill to provide needed housing reform and for other purposes.
Cloture Motion Agreed to (80-13, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
184 2 7/25/08 On the Cloture Motion S. 3268
A bill to amend the Commodity Exchange Act, to prevent excessive price speculation with respect to energy commodities, and for other purposes.
Cloture Motion Rejected (50-43, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
183 2 7/22/08 On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed S. 3268
A bill to amend the Commodity Exchange Act, to prevent excessive price speculation with respect to energy commodities, and for other purposes.
Cloture on the Motion to Proceed Agreed to (94-0, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting
182 2 7/16/08 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 5501
A bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal years 2009 through 2013 to provide assistance to foreign countries to combat HIV AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria, and for other purposes.
Bill Passed (80-16) Not Voting
181 2 7/16/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5077 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008)
To reduce to $35,000,000,000 the amount authorized to be appropriated to combat HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria in developing countries during the next 5 years.
Amendment Rejected (31-64) Not Voting
180 2 7/16/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5082 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008)
To limit the period during which appropriations may be made to carry out this Act and to create a point of order in the Senate against any appropriation to carry out this Act that exceeds the amount authorized for fiscal year 2013.
Amendment Rejected (28-67) Not Voting
179 2 7/16/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5081 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008)
To strike the provision requiring the development of coordinated oversight plans and to establish an independent Inspector General at the Office of the Global AIDS Coordinator.
Amendment Rejected (44-51) Not Voting
178 2 7/16/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5083 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008)
To establish a bipartisan commission for the purpose of improving oversight and eliminating wasteful government spending under the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief.
Amendment Rejected (32-63) Not Voting
177 2 7/15/08 On Overriding the Veto H.R. 6331
A bill to amend titles XVIII and XIX of the Social Security Act to extend expiring provisions under the Medicare Program, to improve beneficiary access to preventive and mental health services, to enhance low-income benefit programs, and to maintain access to care in rural areas, including pharmacy access, and for other purposes.
Veto Overridden (70-26, 2/3 majority required) Not Voting
176 2 7/15/08 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5073 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008)
In the nature of a substitute.
Amendment Rejected (16-80) Not Voting
175 2 7/15/08 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 5078 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008)
To limit the countries to which Federal financial assistance may be targeted under this Act.
Motion to Table Agreed to (70-24) Not Voting
174 2 7/11/08 On the Cloture Motion S. 2731
A bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal years 2009 through 2013 to provide assistance to foreign countries to combat HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria, and for other purposes.

 

Reply #220 Top

Maybe he will act the same way as president.  We can hope after all.  An absent Obama is better than a present one.

Reply #221 Top

Maybe he will act the same way as president.  We can hope after all.  An absent Obama is better than a present one.
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That is what I hope... heh, my dad the liberal says it is all smoke and mirrors and that he is gonna do nothing.. so voting for "democrat" makes sense in that he is probably not gonna fight against abortion laws, while at the same time he is gonna renege on all his promises of socialism...

If obama is really voted in, I sincerely HOPE he would do nothing.

Reply #222 Top

Ok Lula, so in the 109th congress Obama missed 11 votes, versus McCain missing 58.  51 Senators missed more votes than he did.

 

In the 110th Congress, when they were both actively running for president. Obama missed 303 votes versus McCain missing 420.  McCain missed more votes than Tim Johnson, who was in the hospital for 7 months.

 

How exactly does any of this demonstrate that McCain is a better choice than Obama for president?

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LULA POSTS:

Relatively???? He's had no executive experience whatsoever! And for the time he's been in the US Senate, he's voted present all too often showing he's unable or unwillingly to take a stand on matters put before him in the Senate.
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DAVAD70 POSTS:


Can you give me one example of Obama voting "present" since he's been in the US Senate?
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DAVAD70 POSTS: #222

Ok Lula, so in the 109th congress Obama missed 11 votes,
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DAVAD70 POSTS:

In the 110th Congress, when they were both actively running for president. Obama missed 303 votes
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You asked for ONE example and this exercise has you answering your own question and then some! B)

How exactly does any of this demonstrate that McCain is a better choice than Obama for president?
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It you want to parse out Obama's  not voting, a picture might come into focus.....for example, his "not voting" for court nominees. Under the Constitution, the president's job is to nominate and his job as Senator is to give them a fair up or down vote. Obama is playing games, working for himself, power, and his party instead of serving the people and I find that just one more of his very repugnant characteristics.  

Put all the Obama facts together and one can get a fairly good picture of where he'd like take our country...it isn't one that's agreeable to me.  

I wonder, have you noticed that all the things that have been found out about Obama have been found out by people other than the mainstream media? Doesn't that give you grave concern? Having witnessed the media's bias and favoritism towards him, doesn't that lead you to suspect what else does the media know but is concealing until the election is safely over?

Chris Matthew's admitted he gets chills up his legs for Obama for pete's sake. Something is very rotten out there and for the most part, the rot is all over Obama and his side of the court. Nah, he's not my kind of President, not at all.  Mccain and Palin are light years ahead of Obama and Biden as far as the common good of this country goes.

 

 

 

 

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Mmmmm, I love the smell of fear mongering in the morning.

Let's be honest - NONE of the four people put up by the two major parties should be withing TEN MILES of the Oval Office. 

They ALL SUCK.

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You asked for ONE example and this exercise has you answering your own question and then some!
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And you still never gave an instance of him voting "present" in the US Senate.

My point is, yes he's missed votes, just like every other senator.  It doesn't make him unfit or irresponsible any more than it makes McCain unfit.