I believe (correct me if you have evidence I'm wrong, please) that she commented, when asked, that she would have no problem with creationism being discussed in schools.  I've not seen any evidence that she ever proposed, campaigned for, pushed for or otherwise actively promoted the teaching of creationism or intelligent design as part of the defined school curriculum.

Yes.

Incidentally, neither have I.

Even Little Green Footballs are satisfied with Palin's stance on the issue. And they are no friends of Creationists.

Campaigns are not about the truth, but about spin.  I have seen a lot of distaste and our right hate for Palin, only because she was percieved to be a threat to Obama.  There is almost no reciprocation about Biden because he did nothing for Obama.

LEAUKI POSTS #152

Yes, I agree.

#1 and #4 ......AGREE.

#2 and #3 ....Disagree....Catholicism teaches that God created the universe and all that's in it including man according to Genesis...."In the beginning.." 1:1. Genesis contains sublime, moral and religious truths regarding creation, while it is not scientific per se, it is in accordance with science. So far,  since the Church has left open the question of age of the world, faithful Catholics can believe that it took billions of years or in the literal days of Creation.

As far as evolution, Catholics are free to accept it as a working hypothesis ....understanding it is not a proved fact despite the assertions of many pseudo-scientists. It is not and can not be an experimental science and suggests more problems than it solves.  

This thread is for Palin, but why do I see evolution debate here?

It's like tuberculosis, once it infects something it is damn difficult to get rid of.

It's not hate.  It's fear.  Fear of if/when she takes over for McCain.  We thought W was incompetant an unprepared for the role - I think we ain't seen nothin' yet.  She has admittedly not kept up with the war or current events.  She cannot articulate the simplest of concepts without a rehearsed script.  She thinks she has international experience because of Alaska's proximity to Russia.  She believes Muthee helped her win the governorship when he laid hands and prayed away the witches.  She believes the war and the gas pipeline are god's will. charging rape victims for rape kits, uninquisitiveness, abstinence-only, fear of "g"'s at the end of words, the only bad thing about Cheney she can come up - the shooting accident. the end days, women's issues, and on and on and on...  McCain is 72 and a multiple-time cancer patient, and his odds are not good.  I don't wish him ill, but compare him from the the last two elections in the PBS documentary 'The Choice' - he has aged a lot.  He might be tolerable, with a heavily Demiocratic House & Senate, but Palin?  It just cannot be allowed to happen.  Again, it's not hate.  Conservatives have cornered the market on that.

Except that the Catholic Church said a long time ago that the theory of evolution is not just a hypothesis any more.

Oh please.  The hate against Palin is amazing, and is the worse I have ever seen.

Uh, excuse me?  I evolved from a sperm and egg!

Wow, I didn't realize this thread was still going!

You sure know how to swallow the Obama talking points and regurgitate them as truths don't you?

Really? I just came from those. But they had already evolved into my species generations earlier.

You must look funny!

Boorish, elitist, scripted talking points.

That's what my wife says.

DRGUY POSTS:

Ha, we all did Doc.....this is growth to maturity which isn't "evolution" that is, one species evolving into another as in new higher genetic info being gained....any more than the acorn growing into the oak tree.

LEAUKI POSTS:

Leauki,

The following report from Lifesite News should correct any mis conceptions you have concerning the CC and evolution....

Darwinian Evolution Incompatible with Catholic Faith says Cardinal and Author of Catholic Catechism

NEW YORK, July 11, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) – On July 7, after years of media-generated confusion, Christoph Cardinal Schonborn, a theologian who helped author the 1992 Catechism of the Catholic Church, wrote in the New York Times clarifying the Church’s understanding of human origins.

Since 1996, the world’s secular media have claimed that Pope John Paul II endorsed Darwinian evolution as being “more than a hypothesis.” The remark, taken out of context, established in some minds that the Catholic Church was ready to abandon its adherence to the notion of a personal God who created life, the universe and everything.

In his article, Schonborn said, that the “defenders of neo-Darwinian dogma have often invoked the supposed acceptance - or at least acquiescence - of the Roman Catholic Church when they defend their theory as somehow compatible with Christian faith.”

“This,” the Cardinal says bluntly, “is not true.”

Schonborn unequivocally establishes that the Catholic Church does not endorse Darwinism. “Evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true, but evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense - an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection - is not.”

Cardinal Schonborn, a close associate of both Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI, continued, saying, “Any system of thought that denies or seeks to explain away the overwhelming evidence for design in biology is ideology, not science.”

The New York Times, never missing an opportunity to bash prominent Catholic prelates, has suggested that Schonborn has changed his tune regarding the legitimacy of Darwinian evolution. But Darwinism, the idea that life sprang and developed into its myriad forms by means of “an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection” has never been supported by Catholic teaching.

As early as 1950, Pope Pius XII wrote that it is Catholics teaching that all human beings in some way are biologically descended from a first man, Adam. “The faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all,” Pius wrote in his encyclical Humani Generis.

Two days after the Cardinal’s article appeared, the New York Times followed up with an interview with Schonborn in which he reiterated that he had been encouraged by Pope Benedict XVI to continue to refine Catholic teaching on evolution.

Read Cardinal Schonborn’s essay:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/07/opinion/07schonborn.html

BORNAGAINATHEIST POSTS:

Can't be allowed to happen? Interesting choice of words....How far will Obamians go to make sure this "cannot be allowed to happen"? Is this why there is so much voter fraud going on in Ohio?

WNMNKH POSTS:

I think it goes back to Kurtin's comment #24......if you care to follow the discussion, I think you'll find it is interestingly relevant.

actually no, think about it. john McCain (if elected) will b the oldest president we have ever voted in. If u checked his medical records, hes had a shit-load of problems, the latest of wich i believe is a form of skin cancer. Palin is 1 of the least qualified ppl to b president. Obama spent several weeks going to other countries, what did Palin do? she met w/ 1 or 2 leaders at the UN. Foreign relations experience is hardly gained by governing alaska. & she didnt even do a decent job of that either. Tho i do applaud her 4 getting away w/ scamming the state out of $10 mill for that bridge. btw what did she do w/ that money?

I stand by my comment.

ah the old, stick ur fingers in ur ears & sing rly loudly "la la la la" technique. works so well on important matters doesnt it?

for the record, it was on the news that obama went to other countries, & that palin had an interview w/ a world leader or 2, so if that is all scripted to u, then im afraid u live in a sad world my friend

BORNAGAINATHEIST POSTS:

So what? McCain is a survivor....his mother is in her mid 90's.

well im afraid u may have missed some of the interviews. the last ive heard/ seen of her, she was avoiding a reporter who kept asking about a recent article (what that article was about escapes me, but i think it may have something 2 do with her power scandal up in alaska)  the 1st time the reporter asked about it, Palin said that the article did not implicate her in anything despite the fact that it is clearly written in the text. shortly thereafter she left on a bus standing by her original statement even tho it was clearly false.

oh & were those supposed 2 b links? if so, they arent working for me

We should all prepare ourselves.  As bad as all the smug condescension has been here the last couple of weeks, it's only going to get worse if/after BO wins.  Not a problem for me, but they're going to be even more insufferably boorish with their 'Your mother wears army boots!' arguments.

i havent seen many responses that were all that bad, tho mayb i just havent been paying attention >.< but what bothers me about if Obama wins, is what r all the McCain/Palin supporters gonna do? after watching some of the latest Palin speeches, im worried about the radicals who scream "kill him" and "terrorist". im pretty sure that palin herself is fanning these flames on purpose. she might b planning on a witch hunt of her own, & whos to say that a mad disallusioned mob wont go too far?