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Is Michael Moore "anit-American"

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Is Michael Moore "anit-American"

How his "documentaries" affect our Nation's standing in the world

from JoeUser Forums
Mr. Moore is among the growing number of Americans who trash our nation, our Military, and our Domestic and National Polices.
"Bowling for Colombine" was an interesting film and raised many serious questions that should be addresed but nevertheless it portrayed the majority of Americans as gun toteing, inherantly violent, and aboslutly ignorant and/or unwilling to change the status quo of our nation. This is greatly emphaised by my Japanese pen-pal writing to me asking if Mr. Moore's statement that "virtually every houshold in the United States owns a firearm." And his assertion that the vast majority of firearm owners take little or no action to safeguard thier weapons from children.

I can handle his opinions, I take them with a grain of salt, ( actually many, many grains) but his most recent film. "Farenhit 9/11" was completly over the top for me, especially as a soldier. To add insult to injury, upon his visits to foreign countries he continued to bash our country. Saying such things to the French of all people, that "we should have listend to them." and his comments go on and on and I feel no need to quote him further unless it is needed.

Under his illusion that he only wants to air out our nations flaws he is unquestionably among the most arrogent "anit-americans" that I have ever had the displeasure of hearing, seeing, or reading.

I am intrested to see how agrees with me and more importantly who does not, and why.
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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top
Nothin to add on that point very "insightful" thank you.
Reply #52 from PolMach Forums Top
Dymas - I am proud that your a solider and you should not take the offense to the young or kids comments. I have lost friends in Iraq 19 year old kids that signed up for ROTC to pay for college and payed with their lives instead. You seem to mix up frusturation with an administration that puts you and your friends and my friends in harms way for lack of support of the people that go do the job. You could not be more wrong.


We obviously have differnt opinions on leadership, reason for being there etc .etc. Regardless of those comments and if they were taken out of context or not They were said and it sends a terrible message to those that are in Iraq. Just like when the Sadam statute fell good goal bad way to do it with American Solider put a flag on his face...

I commend you for giving service to our country, but that does not mean I have to agree with the leader than gives your orders. I have never said that good is not being done. but you can hardly argue that their are many many more "humanatarian hotspots" that need our assistance that dont have oil in them, or muslims for that matter.

You are to be commended for your service to the country, but that does not let Shrub of the hook.


Citizen T - The fact remains he made those comments , and yes freedom of religion is granted to everyone. He fucked up when he made those comments in uniform imo. He was not speaking as a person but as a political head. He should have been terminated from duty for those comments. If he said Hilter was not a bad guy he would have been tossed asap. Same difference. He expressed opinion that has not shit to do with his job and crossed the line.

Laugh at the comment about resources but its not any secret that we tend to find "humanitarin calls" in resource laden areas. We are the world police when it is convient to us not when we are really needed. (WW2 not included)

To expose you folks to anything other than blind faith for George Bush is obviously an effort in futulity so if he losses and kerry sucks you can say I told you so in 4 years. If he wins which sadly I think will be the case, when the country turns to shit you can say Damn that mobcoa guy told us this shit .

I do love how with 9/11 the current admin has you all brainwashed to think that anyone that does not agree with them is unamerican or out of the loop with reality.

When you bury your friend mabye you wont think that GW is such a great guy.
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Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top
I dont think GW is a great guy at all.
Im absolutly not brainwashed, I speak my opinion only from experiance.
If people you know joined ROTC "to pay for collage" then they had their priorites off. Everyone knows that when you join the military you main purpose is war, every thing else, education perks included, is just extra. To serve is to serve.
It's sad that so many had to pay for this war with thier lives, but that is the case in all wars.
An american soldier may have put a flag on his face, meanwhile the Iraq crowd was hitting his statue with their shoes ( a sign of major disrespect) and chanting "God is great, Saddam is an enemy of God." The soldiers who toppled the statue only helped. It was not a decision of the commander on the ground. The people were already trying and we helped. Helped, I think that sends a good message.
but you can hardly argue that their are many many more "humanatarian hotspots" that need our assistance that dont have oil in them, or muslims for that matter.

Yes I can argue that there are far more humanitarian hotspots, places and issues that need to be addressed. Schools, hospitals, farms, buisnesses, factories, water for the population, power for cities. The list goes on and on. Those issues number far more than some Iraqi insurgents or Iraqi and/or forign terrorists. ( there is a difference I know )
Im sure that in some, miniscule way, oil is involoved in those issues, but we dont use our oil, we use thiers and its only right that we do so, its their country. We dont charge them for the oil.
You know what the gas price was while I was in Iraq? the equivilent of 10 cents a gallon. 10 cents. what are our gas prices today? No way was this about oil. As for you comment stateing "..or muslims for that matter" I dont really know what you mean.
Im sorry for your loss, I assume your a teacher or close to those who make the decision to serve. And most importantly, thank you for your kind words about my service. I hate to "tout" it, but on these political topics its almost unavoidable.
Reply #54 from JoeUser Forums Top
I dont think GW is a great guy at all.
Im absolutly not brainwashed, I speak my opinion only from experiance.
If people you know joined ROTC "to pay for collage" then they had their priorites off. Everyone knows that when you join the military you main purpose is war, every thing else, education perks included, is just extra. To serve is to serve.
It's sad that so many had to pay for this war with thier lives, but that is the case in all wars.
An american soldier may have put a flag on his face, meanwhile the Iraq crowd was hitting his statue with their shoes ( a sign of major disrespect) and chanting "God is great, Saddam is an enemy of God." The soldiers who toppled the statue only helped. It was not a decision of the commander on the ground. The people were already trying and we helped. Helped, I think that sends a good message.
but you can hardly argue that their are many many more "humanatarian hotspots" that need our assistance that dont have oil in them, or muslims for that matter.

Yes I can argue that there are far more humanitarian hotspots, places and issues that need to be addressed. Schools, hospitals, farms, buisnesses, factories, water for the population, power for cities. The list goes on and on. Those issues number far more than some Iraqi insurgents or Iraqi and/or forign terrorists. ( there is a difference I know )
Im sure that in some, miniscule way, oil is involoved in those issues, but we dont use our oil, we use thiers and its only right that we do so, its their country. We dont charge them for the oil.
You know what the gas price was while I was in Iraq? the equivilent of 10 cents a gallon. 10 cents. what are our gas prices today? No way was this about oil. As for you comment stateing "..or muslims for that matter" I dont really know what you mean.
Im sorry for your loss, I assume your a teacher or close to those who make the decision to serve. And most importantly, thank you for your kind words about my service. I hate to "tout" it, but on these political topics its almost unavoidable.
Reply #55 from PolMach Forums Top
I have lost friends in Iraq 19 year old kids that signed up for ROTC to pay for college and payed with their lives instead.


This is in no way an insult. I hope your not a history teacher. Because after the first Gulf war it was general knowledge that the main objective of the military is to kill poeple and blow things up. If these 19 year old kids didn't know that, then they didn't get much education in contemperary history. Most poeple learned from that war that the military is not a collage fund. I am sure his ROTC professor clearly stated this the first day of class and offered them a chance to leave.

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Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top
Lee1776:
Absolutly correct