A new option in tornado ally in the u.s.

I have made this post to share my option for protecting citizens in tornado ally.My option is that we build gaint domes because they are good at resisting wind and making shelters underneath they building to support large populations during a powerful storms incase the dome shelter fails to protect them.I would highly recomand this idea in large cities in tornado ally or other places like Dallas and Salt Lake City. :HOT: If we dont do something we will lose many more populations and billions of dollars and global warming is going to make it worse. (:( 
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since the USA is currently responsible for over 50% of all polloution(chinas rappidly catching up so is India)
Every time I see about the tornados getting worse "just desserts" comes to mind.

Giant domes would also have a greater impact on the enviroment.... however if you designed it of a composite material that included solarcells etc, and made it airtight you could actually trap all human emissions inside it and deal with them before there ever released into the greater enviroments and be to some extent selfreliant.

Domed cities have already been envisioned as a requirement for when the atmoshphere gets much worse... question why we dont build them before we need them and use them to trap large potions of polloution we are currently emitting seems like a good idea to me
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Every time I see about the tornados getting worse "just desserts" comes to mind.


Wow, another super-caring individual about other people when natural disasters strike. Did you travel to China to spit on people when the earthquake struck? I bet you're the guy who stole all that Red Cross food in the aftermath of the Tsunami, because they deserved it. I bet you even donated money during American Idol because you care so darn much and wanted to show it.

Even IF a certain nation was directly responsible for a natural disaster occuring, its pretty lowbrow to sit back and think about "just desserts" for those citizens it happened to. I'm pretty sure 5 year old Sally or Grandma in the house probably didn't have much to do with it. Remarks like that are just uncalled for, even if your "joking".
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Please, Ill need to see a reference on that US is responsible for 50 percent of pollution.
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Tornadoes aren't getting worse. We've been in a big drought the past few years and people tend to forget that tornadoes happen quite often.
I remember a few years back we had to go in our basement every week, last year not once.
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the dome thery can also be used in hurricanes too.And deserts most nations are solving that promblem like Iran,putting pipes under the deserts planting trees into the pipes and getting them fresh water thus making the desert lessen and stop sprending.Droughts...let nature take over.And tornadoes will get worse, all storms will and more water,more flooding thanks to global warming melting the ice caps thus incressing presipitation which make bigger powerful storms or super cells.lots of lighting storms,maybe 10x more deadly!! :SURPRISED: 
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polution is not a promblem in the usa its mostly in mexico and china we are more ecofriendly then them. :LOL: Of course a few very populated places do have meduim pollution in the us mostly the west and northeast.of course we need to advance in ice colonization in alaska lots of people can go up there and the dome thery can help that too sheltering people from harsh artic wind.BRRR!!!Earthqaukes i dont know... investing in quake restitate buildings i guess...underground solid structures near faults or hot spots.Isunamis...huge flood walls in line or more rocky shores or making more wetlands-best idea.Meteors...deap,DEAP underground buckers with animals and plants,planting bombs on them,gavational sliggers moving them enough to miss planet.
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polution is not a promblem in the usa its mostly in mexico and china we are more ecofriendly then them. Of course a few very populated places do have meduim pollution in the us mostly the west and northeast.of course we need to advance in ice colonization in alaska lots of people can go up there and the dome thery can help that too sheltering people from harsh artic wind.BRRR!!!Earthqaukes i dont know... investing in quake restitate buildings i guess...underground solid structures near faults or hot spots.Isunamis...huge flood walls in line or more rocky shores or making more wetlands-best idea.Meteors...deap,DEAP underground buckers with animals and plants,planting bombs on them,gavational sliggers moving them enough to miss planet.


you need to get out more
unless you were drunk or stoned or otherwise mentally inept when you wrote this post you should reread it and then do some research (unless of course if you were joking)
btw usa is not an 'ecofriendly' Denmark is ecofriendly, Finland is ecofriendly. usa...not so much
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Ever read the Robot trilogy by Isaac Asimov. The people there lived in domed cities have no pets and could not even go outside with out incredible discomfort
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Ever read the Robot trilogy by Isaac Asimov. The people there lived in domed cities have no pets and could not even go outside with out incredible discomfort


my guess is youd find that book in the fiction isles?
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My brain hurts from reading this thread.

The polar ice caps cause tornadoes. If they actually melted, severity of weather would be decreased drastically. Alas, even with the best possible projections, melting Antarctica is flat impossible, so we're fucked on that one. If the north pole melted, tornado ally wouldn't exist. The strong air currents are driven by the radical change in temperature caused by the ice caps. No ice caps, no radical change in temperature.

Now, hurricanes are another matter. If the caps melted, we might see worse hurricanes. Hurricanes, unlike normal storm systems, are not created by cool air running into hot air. Hurricanes are created by warm water running into cold air. Relatively cold anyway. Water evaporates, rises, cools, condenses, drops the pressure, and starts the sucker up. It's a self contained system that generates it's own power as long as the water stays warm enough. There is the question of how cold the air would be though. Global warming is going to increase the air temperature more than the water temperature in the southern hemisphere. This isn't an arguable point, Antarctica is not going to melt, period. You'd need almost a 40F degree change in the average temperature, got it? Global warming doom and gloom scenarios call for a minuscule fraction of that required. Since water has a vastly higher heat capacity than air, the stabilizing force that is Antarctica will guarantee that the average difference between the air and water temperature will decrease, not increase. The might hinges upon unknowns that may or may not end up in more favorable conditions in various circumstances based on entirely unknown changes to global currents. Regardless, tropical cyclones are beneficial, they redistribute the warmth to cooler areas by nature of continuing till they run into one.

I'd be much more worried about the geological record than I would global warming. We're due for another ice age if the pattern holds, hello permanent ice over a third of the globe. Of course, we'll all be dead by then, which is probably why people are more interested in arguing over mythical global warming dangers and pure speculation that might have minimal bearing on their own existence.

Besides, CO2 isn't pollution.
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we are sort of ecofriendly more than china and mexico but i didnt say we where the ecofriendliet now did i,no and thats fiction books,real life is real and really different and what if you bort in outside by making forests and ecosystems i never said how big they were.And what would be that increaible discomfort huh tell me.
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I have support on my theries watching tv and school and have you seen the movie the day after tommorrow and it based on REAL facts,that will happen. co2 is poison mexico city look it up people have breathing promblem from CO2 that can make acid rain kill all kinds of stuff.
You are right it will get cold thanks to the changing water currents but these droughts global warming it will stay warm for a while and the ice caps will melt copletely by 2100 thus flooding coastlines not whole states or countries.tornadoes form from water currents too not all air currets.it will also change air currets too.Small changes in temperture can easily effect the world.Watch some educational tv and come back here with REAL BASED FACTS.
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and i know for a FACT phychoak that you are not 2,007 years old.
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Drakthar and others,

I happen to live less than a mile away from the "Just Dessert" that rolled through Hugo, MN and killed a little two year old boy, as well as damaged ours and many of our neighbors homes.

How about you eat a big dish of "Go F$#@$ Yourself" k?

You are young and nieve, and the fact that you state that you learned everything from TV, Movies(a bad one at that) and school is quite frightening indeed.

How about when DDT was banned because apparently it hurt people(which hasn't been proven scientifically) However, it has been proven that the outburst of malaria and starvation from subsequent crop loss has killed millions in Africa. Eco-friendliness at it's holocaust best.

Get your head out of your ass. Please.

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If it weren't so sad, it would be hilarious.

DessanT, do you by chance know what you and every living plant and animal on earth exhale? I'll give you a hint, you've labeled it as pollution.

Seriously people, the latest doom and gloom scenario designed to sell advertising space on TV is not what you should be watching to educate yourselves.
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I have support on my theries watching tv and school and have you seen the movie the day after tommorrow and it based on REAL facts,that will happen. co2 is poison mexico city look it up people have breathing promblem from CO2 that can make acid rain kill all kinds of stuff.You are right it will get cold thanks to the changing water currents but these droughts global warming it will stay warm for a while and the ice caps will melt copletely by 2100 thus flooding coastlines not whole states or countries.tornadoes form from water currents too not all air currets.it will also change air currets too.Small changes in temperture can easily effect the world.Watch some educational tv and come back here with REAL BASED FACTS.


lol
please tell me your joking when you say you get your facts from school, tv, and movies

...

Ignorance is mans greatest weakness


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DessanT: That is just sad. Do you know what concentrations of co2 would have to be in the atmosphere for it to be poisonous? You need 10,000 ppm to be even REMOTELY harmful. I think you meant carbon monoxide poisoning. CO kills people at 12000 ppm. CO2 helps plants GROW. Acid rain does NOT occur because of CO2:
Heres some chemistry for you.
This is normal set of reactions CLEAN rain that makes it SLIGHTLY acidic:
H2O (l) + CO2 (g) → H2CO3 (aq)
2H2O (l) + H2CO3 (aq) ⇌ CO32- (aq) + 2H3O+(aq)
This is SULFURIC ACID RAIN:
SO2 + OH· → HOSO2·
HOSO2· + O2 → HO2· + SO3
SO3(g) + H2O(l) → H2SO4(l)
This is NITRIC ACID RAIN:
NO2 + OH· → HNO3
Do you see a CO2 in any of the damaging reactions? I don't. Before you try to act condescending with your 'facts' PLEASE check them.
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I meant the reactions in clean rain. For some reason I cant edit my original post.
This is normal set of reactions CLEAN rain that makes it SLIGHTLY acidic:


Oh and:
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It should also be noted that acid rain occurs natural and is what formed limestone caverns in most cases.
Also side note plants inhale CO2 and exhale O2 so that DessanT doesn't get anymore confused than he already is.
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I have support on my theries watching tv and school and have you seen the movie the day after tommorrow and it based on REAL facts,that will happen. co2 is poison mexico city look it up people have breathing promblem from CO2 that can make acid rain kill all kinds of stuff.You are right it will get cold thanks to the changing water currents but these droughts global warming it will stay warm for a while and the ice caps will melt copletely by 2100 thus flooding coastlines not whole states or countries.tornadoes form from water currents too not all air currets.it will also change air currets too.Small changes in temperture can easily effect the world.Watch some educational tv and come back here with REAL BASED FACTS.


Ignorance like this will do more damage to the world than any "pollution" ever will...
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Edit : Pollution is not meant to be quoted. I do believe in the existence of pollution...
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Acid rain killing the rain forest was a myth anyway. It was proven to be a drought not very long after they came up with that absurd idea.
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I believe domed cities would be impractical for many reasons.

Firstly, the dome would act as a greenhouse and trap large amounts of heat. Air conditioning would be needed to keep the dome livable for most of the year, and that would use enormous amounts of energy. Generating all that extra energy would likely produce lots of extra pollution.

Secondly, the outside of the dome is going to get awfully dirty. That means you'll either need an army of window washers to keep it transparent, or use an opaque dome and paint a fake background on the inner surface.

There is also the issue of whether a dome is actually cheaper or more effective than simply digging storm shelters for everyone and installing better warning systems, or even building homes underground.
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If we're going to take the suggestion seriously, domes wont work for tornadoes anyway.

The problem with building for a tornado is that a nice, mile wide F5 can launch 5 ton trees at 200 mph.

Actual use of a dome would have excellent benefits outside of his suggestion though. Washing it isn't as difficult as you might think. You simply ring it with a moat to collect the water, and install high pressure sprayers starting at the top. Negligible water loss, easy cleaning. Using a multiple layer dome to insulate against temperature changes would significantly reduce the fluctuation from one day to the next, and even out temperatures year round to a marginal degree depending on how well insulated you are. If you line it with solar panels, you've just taken care of your power usage. Of course, only Bill Gates can afford to live in such a city, but whatever.

If you really want to protect against tornadoes, don't have any trees next to your house, build well, and have a storm shelter. Then all you have to do is not go to sleep while under a tornado watch, which isn't something you're supposed to do.
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If you really want to protect against tornadoes, don't have any trees next to your house, build well, and have a storm shelter. Then all you have to do is not go to sleep while under a tornado watch, which isn't something you're supposed to do.


or sleep in the shelter.  :CONGRAT: