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Explain again, just what is Hillary Clinton's experience?

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Explain again, just what is Hillary Clinton's experience?

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Someone please, just about anyone, though I'm looking sort of at one particular Hillary Clinton lover to really come on over and defend the bit..., uh, woman (and I use that term very loosely and feel bad about the disrespect it shows to all other women out there) and really explain just what is Hillary Clinton's experience?

What makes her more qualified for the office of President of the United States than anyone else, like say my birds, or the neighbors cats, or especially other legitimate candidates like her current opponent Senator Barack Obama.[more]

Seriously, where does anyone, and I mean anyone, in their right mind come off saying that Hillary Clinton is the more experienced candidate.  What experience are you counting?  What measuring system are you using?

Hillary ducking from Sniper FireShe was first lady.  That got her a ton of experience didn't it?! (NOT!)  Experience in attending funerals, state dinners, meeting and greeting (even if she didn't have to duck snipers) and things like that maybe, but when she was at these events it was as first lady.  She was meeting other first ladies, other spouses of other dignataries and officials and the like, and never once really to have input into any matters of state.  Do you really believe that is experience that qualifies someone to be President of the United States?

She is still the Junior Senator from New York, that the experience you want to count?  A whopping 4 years of additional experience over the person that is ahead of her in the polls, ahead in delegate count, would be miles ahead of her if it was winner take all and not the screwed up proporational system that is keeping her in the running.  And wow, she has helped passed a ton of bills, co-authored a ton of bills, sponsored a ton of legislation, oooops, not.

So what makes Hillary Clinton qualified or more qualified than the next person.

I'll re-use the question that Geraldine Ferraro raised -- if Hillary Clinton wasn't a woman would she be where she was?  Answer: Hell No.

If she wasn't a former first lady, she wouldn't even have been elected as a carpet bagging Senator from New York.  She'd have disappeared off into the sunset, or, you know what -- she'd have left her scumbag husband for his habitual cheating, rather than sticking around with him because her own addictive personality won't let her slink away from power.

Hillary Clinton respresents the worst in U.S. politics in far too many ways.  That she gathers any support shows the desperation of some.  Some that believe that times were oh so much better with a Clinton in the White House.  Enough already of the Bush / Clinton then Bush ride.  We don't need to repeat it.  The Clintons had their chance to get things done for this country.  If she really was a co-President as she tries to claim, then technicly she should be excluded from being a candidate for the same reason her husband can't run.  She had her 8 years, that's the constitutional limit, time for someone else to take the job.

But, I'll certainly entertain defense of the woman even as I sneer at such defenses as pathetic justification for wanting to waste a vote on someone that will clearly lose in the general election.

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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top
You know a typical liberal democrat.
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Loony one. We do have sane liberal democrats around.
Reply #52 from PolMach Forums Top
At the level you write on it would not be too intellectual for a fifteen year old.
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Probably not, but the average fifteen year old is much more capable of independent thought than the average conservative.
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Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top
TP is a hoot, ain't he? :LOL:
Reply #54 from JoeUser Forums Top
Actually, he really worked for a living. Shocking, eh?The false implication was two-fold. One, that politics was not a job (in which case she lied, since her definition of a job seemed to entail getting paid), and 2 that only Obama had done it - another lie, since by no stretch of the imagination could one think that flying combat missions was not a job.And of course the related item to number 1, was that Obama had been working all his life until he magically (Lucky Charms!) appeared to run for president.And if we are going to get to the "casting aspersions" stage, then it is not McCain that is being slammed here, but Hillary and Kerry (he never did anything but shoot up 44 gallon drums).That is what she was being called out on, and when done so, you can see she basically resorted to name calling to justify her lies.
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My point is that Obama, when compared to the other candidates isn't close to being elitist, he came from a working class parents (the mother at least, the father was...odd), he was raised by working class people. He's worked for what he wants, and wasn't given it.
Reply #55 from JoeUser Forums Top
I realize those comments are too intellectual for most low brow conservatives.At the level you write on it would not be too intellectual for a fifteen year old.You seem vindictive and petty, you lack substance in your posts, and you continually fail to answer any question posed to you with anything other than invective terms and characterizations. Based on your writings you appear to be racist, sexist, bigoted, and homophobic. You know a typical liberal democrat.
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Sounds like an asshole, period. Got nothing to do with being a liberal democrat.
TP is a hoot, ain't he?
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More of a fart maybe? :LOL: Just kidding.



Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top
My point is that Obama, when compared to the other candidates isn't close to being elitist, he came from a working class parents (the mother at least, the father was...odd), he was raised by working class people. He's worked for what he wants, and wasn't given it.
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Your parentage has something to do with being elitist, but not all. It can be bred,or learned. in his case it was learned.
Reply #57 from JoeUser Forums Top
My point is that Obama, when compared to the other candidates isn't close to being elitist, he came from a working class parents (the mother at least, the father was...odd), he was raised by working class people. He's worked for what he wants, and wasn't given it.Your parentage has something to do with being elitist, but not all. It can be bred,or learned. in his case it was learned.
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No it wasn't, just read the actual comment and not the parsed one from the (gasp!) MSM.

Reply #58 from JoeUser Forums Top
No it wasn't, just read the actual comment and not the parsed one from the (gasp!) MSM.
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Your response makes no sense. I was not commenting on his comment, only the statement that he is elitist. So it may be "he isnt", but not "it wasnt".

However, I have heard his entire comment (shock! Not from the MSM, but I am sure they fed it to the site I listened to it on). And it is elitist.

Now you can say "it wasnt".
Reply #59 from JoeUser Forums Top
No it wasn't, just read the actual comment and not the parsed one from the (gasp!) MSM.Your response makes no sense. I was not commenting on his comment, only the statement that he is elitist. So it may be "he isnt", but not "it wasnt".However, I have heard his entire comment (shock! Not from the MSM, but I am sure they fed it to the site I listened to it on). And it is elitist.Now you can say "it wasnt".
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Well, In my opinion it wasn't, and it seems others (conservative like yourself) are of the same opinion as I. In fact, if you read some comments about it, there's not much bitterness over it.

But, whatever you think is what you thnk, and you're entitled to it.
Reply #60 from JoeUser Forums Top
there's not much bitterness over it.
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Elitist <> Bitterness.

Learn the meaning of words. As far as I have heard, no one has said there was bitterness. The term was elitist. As in better than the subject. And you may not see that, but most of the country (based upon the fact that most republicans and half the democrats) think it was very elitist.
Reply #61 from JoeUser Forums Top
Probably not, but the average fifteen year old is much more capable of independent thought than the average conservative.
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And have you proven that you can write above that level?

Reply #62 from JoeUser Forums Top
And have you proven that you can write above that level?
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She has not proven she can write at that level yet, much less above it.
Reply #63 from PolMach Forums Top
She has not proven she can write at that level yet, much less above it.
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And you dr. iwishiwasaguy have not prove you are even human, let alone someone worthy of wasting my time.
Reply #64 from JoeUser Forums Top
And you dr. iwishiwasaguy have not prove you are even human, let alone someone worthy of wasting my time.
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Yet you do it. Does that put your sanity in question or your judgment?
Reply #65 from JoeUser Forums Top
there's not much bitterness over it.Elitist <> Bitterness.Learn the meaning of words. As far as I have heard, no one has said there was bitterness. The term was elitist. As in better than the subject. And you may not see that, but most of the country (based upon the fact that most republicans and half the democrats) think it was very elitist.
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I'm talking about the bitterness over what he said, geesh. Seriously, I get that people think he is elitist, but then there is also how the people react, and some are bitter, most are not, but there are some.

Oi, read and comprehend better next time Doc.
Reply #67 from JoeUser Forums Top
yet I do what?
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Reply #68 from JoeUser Forums Top
Let me rephrase my comments slightly:

Yes, they view him as elitist, but then there is a belief that most of the people suddenly are bitter at him and what not, most are not according to what I've read. There are some though.
Reply #69 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm talking about the bitterness over what he said, geesh. Seriously, I get that people think he is elitist, but then there is also how the people react, and some are bitter, most are not, but there are some.

Oi, read and comprehend better next time Doc.
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I do, but you had no transition. You were commenting (I take it since you quoted me) about my comment, and you mentioned bitterness. You need to keep your comments separated, or one can only assume you are reading something into the comment that is not there. I will only plead that I took it you were commenting on my comment, not making a new point.

As for teh bitterness, the only bitterness I have seen appears to be from the Obamites because Hillary is gigging him. There may be more, but my "MSM filters" have not been reporting it. ;)