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GOP Presidential Candidates Have NO Clue!

GOP Presidential Candidates Have NO Clue!



The GOP presidential debate yesterday contained a segment about the fiscal problems facing our country. The moderator sighted the Comptroller General warnings about the debt and continued budget imbalance as well as the coming problems with funding Medicare and Social Security. The GOP candidates agreed with the assessment of the Comptroller General that we have created a very serious problem. However when the questions of how to deal with this were pursued it became clear none of the GOP candidates have a CLUE!

On one hand they admit it is a major problem and then blame it on entitlements. That showed either a complete misunderstanding of the problem or a refusal to face the real cause which has NOT been entitlements i.e. Social Security and Medicare thru 2007. Both these entitlements have produced an annual SURPLUS which has been used to finance the deficit in the discretionary portion of the budget. None of the $9 Trillion dollars of debt comes from either Social Security or Medicare.The problem with entitlements is in the FUTURE. The coming problem with entitlement will be ON TOP of the problems created by the discretionary spending that has exceeded tax revenue since 1981. The candidates also claim we can solve the problem without any real sacrifice and propose to cut federal revenue more with additional tax cuts. That is not true and is totally opposite to what The Comptroller General has documented. The solution to BOTH the existing $9 Trillion dollar deficit and the coming problem of entitlements as the Baby Boomers retire will require MAJOR sacrifices by Americans.

ALL the GOP Presidential candidates are in denial as to the extent and solutions that will be needed to address the growing financial storm on the horizon. To all this must be added the huge trade deficit and falling value of the dollar as well as the energy situation. We also heard the same refrain that the “Market” will solve the energy problems and that we do not need government policies to help reduce our dependence on foreign oil. There was the admission of the problems created by OUR dependence on foreign oil but the same old refrain of the “Free Market” will provide the solution. If that were true, why is the energy problem for the United States getting worse every year? The truth is to solve the energy problem we need to have both government incentive and penalties that move forward domestically controlled alternative energy supplies and far more efficient use of oil including higher mileage for cars, trucks and SUV’s. Most of the GOP candidates admit their policies over the past 7 years have failed but at the same time they proposed, for the most part, to continue those same policies with only minor changes. If you are looking to solve the fiscal, trade and energy problems NONE of the GOP candidates are for you!
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Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007Just think ColGene, every dollar you accept increases the federal deficit. And you say you CARE!!! What I accept I earned over the 40 years when I worked and paid taxes so the prior generations could live.
this does not change what parated said.and you want to take away all of frogboys money. i would venture to say that he worked and earned all of his money too.


I will be happy to receive a little of the money that Bush gave to the wealthy that they should not have received. The party will be over in 2011 when the Bush tax cuts END!
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Might I remind you, little Pissant Colonel, that I was making less than $30,000 a year when Bush "gave to the wealthy", and that check you say didn't help my family ended up saving us a few thousand dollars in interest.

Face it, you know nothing, you never have known anything and all your pathetic reruns of the same articles over and over won't change that.

Piss on you and your bigotry!
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Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007
Taking from the poor and many middle income families will cause them harm. Taking a little from the Rich will not cause then ANY harm!
and since over 22,000 of the households in the US that are considered "poor" have a heated swimming pool and/or a jaccuzzi, apparently taking from a lot of the poor folks won't do them any harm either.I still notice that you count yourself out of any increase in taxes, even though you are richer than most Americans. Idiot.
What I accept I earned over the 40 years when I worked and paid taxes so the prior generations could live.
And so did many of those you so bigotedly call, "the rich", but that doesn't stop you from wanting the government to take what they earned.Face it, you are just a theif who is too cowardly to steal the money yourself.


I earned everything I am getting.

It has EVERYTHING to do with the welfare of the Average American. The Bush/GOP policies could care less about the welfare of the poor and the middle income Americans. ONLY the Rich count for the GOP and the CROP of GOP presidential candidates. Thus anyone that would support them can not be interested in the average American. The real FOOLS are those Average Americans who support the GOP because they are shooting themselves on BOTH FEET!
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Piss on you and your bigotry!
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*zip* *tinkle*

;)

~Zoo
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Taking from the poor and many middle income families will cause them harm. Taking a little from the Rich will not cause then ANY harm!
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As usual this all goes back to genes obsessive hatred of rich people.  Notice how he loves to use the word "take".

It's been shown to you over and over that increasing taxes on business and successful Americans is not a good idea.


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The real FOOLS are those Average Americans who support the GOP because they are shooting themselves on BOTH FEET!
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Another favorite word of gene....welfare. 

Here is a bit of reality gene, the federal government doesn't take care of me or anyone else.  If someone is poor, it's because of their own irresponsibility or laziness, not anyone else.  Democrats want Americans to rely on them and the government to ensure their quality of life, that is complete BS!


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ROFL, I guess that means less than $30,000 for a family with 4 kids is RICH to ColGene!

That being true, he hates himself! That explains a lot actually.
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Don't feed the troll.  We all know the only one here with no Clue is the inferior officer.  Let his worthless rants wither on the vine of non-responses and die.  Answering his charges just amuses him and grants him pleasure.  Why do that for free?  Heck, even the average hooker would charge him double....
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Heck, even the average hooker would charge him double....
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And he'd only be half the man she is. ;~D
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Reply By: Island DogPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007
Taking from the poor and many middle income families will cause them harm. Taking a little from the Rich will not cause then ANY harm!
As usual this all goes back to genes obsessive hatred of rich people. Notice how he loves to use the word "take".It's been shown to you over and over that increasing taxes on business and successful Americans is not a good idea.


It has everything to do with what is BOTH FAIR and NEEDED. It has nothing to do with hate!
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Reply By: terpfan1980Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2007Don't feed the troll. We all know the only one here with no Clue is the inferior officer. Let his worthless rants wither on the vine of non-responses and die. Answering his charges just amuses him and grants him pleasure. Why do that for free? Heck, even the average hooker would charge him double....




You are an ignorant insensitive idiot that abuses the freedom of this country!
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It has everything to do with what is BOTH FAIR and NEEDED. It has nothing to do with hate!
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Taxing one group of Americans more simply because you want to is not fair gene.  Get that through your head. 
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Reply | Edit | DeleteReply By: Island DogPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007
It has everything to do with what is BOTH FAIR and NEEDED. It has nothing to do with hate!
Taxing one group of Americans more simply because you want to is not fair gene. Get that through your head.


The issue is simple-- we need more revenue to help balance the budget and begin paying down the debt. There are several reasons why this added revenue must come from the wealthy.

First they are the people who got the bulk of the Bush Tax Cuts.

They are the group who will not suffer any hardship by paying a little more in taxes.

They are the group who will not reduce their spending from slightly higher taxes unlike the middle income tax payers who would be forced to cut spending if their taxes were to increase.

NONE of these reasons have anything to do with wanting to harm the wealthy but make both economic and social sense.
Reply #39 Top
Taking a little from the Rich will not cause then ANY harm!
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The problem with Col is that he just doesn't get that anything taken from big corporations or rich people will just trickle down to the average people. Prices will go up, wages will go down,or people will lose their jobs, either way the big corporations and rich people will not see a thing and in reality it will be the Average people who will get stuck with any kind of tax hike given to them.
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As usual, Col is just too stupid to look beyond a simple solution. Col never bothers to look at future consequences to his actions, he only cares abouts the results of here and now.
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Reply By: CharlesCS1Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2007
Taking a little from the Rich will not cause then ANY harm!
The problem with Col is that he just doesn't get that anything taken from big corporations or rich people will just trickle down to the average people. Prices will go up, wages will go down,or people will lose their jobs, either way the big corporations and rich people will not see a thing and in reality it will be the Average people who will get stuck with any kind of tax hike given to them.


What are NOT trickling down are the benefits from the Bush economic policies. Those benefits for the most part STOP with the wealthy! Wait until November 2008!!!!!!!
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Wait until November 2008!!!!!!!
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For what?  Democrats aren't doing that great gene.
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For what? Democrats aren't doing that great gene.
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no their not they just loss 2 special elections.
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Reply By: Island DogPosted: Friday, December 14, 2007
Wait until November 2008!!!!!!!
For what? Democrats aren't doing that great gene.


That is because the GOP and Bush are preventing anything from being passed by Congress!
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Wait until November 2008!!!!!!!


You know what? I am gonna vote for Democrats, because I want them to win. I want them to win just so everyone can see just how stupid their ideas are once they start implementing them and all hell breaks loose. I hope Democrats take control, it's the only way people learn. Sometimes you gotta get burned to learn not to play with fire.
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Entitlements result in a surplus? What school of economics did you flunk out of? Each new article from you just brightens the light shining on your ignorance.
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Entitlements result in a surplus? What school of economics did you flunk out of? Each new article from you just brightens the light shining on your ignorance.
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It's always funny to hear gene with his bold and underlines talk about the budget deficit, and then at the same time call for government healthcare and other entitlement programs. 
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Reply | Edit | DeleteReply By: CharlesCS1Posted: Friday, December 14, 2007Wait until November 2008!!!!!!!You know what? I am gonna vote for Democrats, because I want them to win. I want them to win just so everyone can see just how stupid their ideas are once they start implementing them and all hell breaks loose. I hope Democrats take control, it's the only way people learn. Sometimes you gotta get burned to learn not to play with fire.


The people have learned how big a mistake they made by voting for Bush!

Reply | | DeleteReply By: DaiwaPosted: Friday, December 14, 2007Entitlements result in a surplus? What school of economics did you flunk out of? Each new article from you just brightens the light shining on your ignorance.



In the past, both Social Security and Medicare have collected MORE in taxes then they paid out in benefits. That surplus has been used to help fund the annual deficits and the Treasury has issued about $4 Trillion dollars worth of IOU's to the trust funds of Social Security and Medicare. The $9 Trillion dollars of the National debt was not because we paid out more then was collected for Social Security or Medicare. That will change and as the Boomers retire the payments from Social Security and Medicare will be greater then the current tax collections form payroll taxes!


I have a far better understanding of financial management then most on this Blog site. I also have a MUCH better understanding then Bush. I balanced budgets for MANY years during my career!

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I agree that taxing the rich more will not hurt the rich one bit. No, they will pass the hurt onto the middle and lower class, because they CAN. Because they control the flow of money in the economy simply because they have more of it. They will continue to make the same amount, and the money will go to bureacratic bulge instead of straight into the poor/middle class pockets. Yeah, some will make it through the massive bulge, but less than it we cut out the government from the process.
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I balanced budgets for MANY years during my career!
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Right gene.  What federal goernment have you ran lately?


I have a far better understanding of financial management then most on this Blog site.
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I don't think so gene.  We have showed your lies and twists too many times for you to claim that.