TheDarkKnight2008 TheDarkKnight2008

History repeating itself, as usual.

History repeating itself, as usual.

Are all the new Vista haters children?

Or do people not remember how this went out during Xp's launch?

Xp was like Seinfield, it was never a complete success like some think, at the end of the first year only 10% of users actually used it.

I bought Xp at launch, on a celeron 500 with a geforce 4 pci and 256 megs ram (Yeah, go me.). This same shit you see now, was going on during the Xp launch.

People were saying Xp is just a visual makeover that makes their games go slower. Windows 98 can do the same things Xp does and more.

As much as some fools here will say they'll wait for Vienna, when Vienna eventually comes they'll be playing the same damn game.

BTW, one finla thing I forgot to mention. When I was 19 in 1998 or thereabouts I got windows 98 on a prebuilt.

Guess what people were saying about Windows 98?

Guess what people were saying when Windows 95 came out? I was 16, I remember.

The one OS I avoided was Windows ME. No one is probably old enough to remember, but ME was special. It was the one OS that at one point had more returns then sales.

As much as you wanna bag on Vista, calling it ME2, it ain't no ME2, and you'll eventually be using it, complaign all you want.

Your just repeating a history of stupidity that will probably last until mankind dies (Probably from this stupidity)

People are stupid.

BTW, read the whole topic before responding. Or just read this next line since the majority of people responding don't seem to understand.

1. Hate vista for reasons that are true.
2. Don't play a hating charade only to use Vista at the end.
3: Saying people can mean any number of people, not just everyone.

Personally I'd love to see a new OS take over, but that won't happen unless people stop this hate/love charade.

If you honestly want to see a new OS, that will actually come from guts. Not playing the same game everyone else has.
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Reply #26 Top
This isn't about a reply, it's about the general consensus.


Okay, so this post had nothing to do about you making a statement, getting replies and then answering those replies. So if I read this correctly you feel that most people don't like Vista?

Reply #27 Top
No, I simply feel that most people don't make their own choice.

The fact that they would hate it early on is a clear indication of that.

People end up buying it because the latest games require it, or business, etc.

I'd rather them make their own choice.

I've always been against Vista bashers and I always will unless valid points are made, as I don't feel people are making their own choices.

They go by staus quo, by what Steve Jobs says, by what they feel, or by what games require.

If someone honestly has to make your choices for you, you should be their butler, as your too incompetant to make choices yourself.

Asking someone's opinion is a different thing. But if you spend your life going by what people say and not trying things for yourself, you've made your life a perfect replica of the person your copying.

If you copy Steve Jobs, you aren't yourself anymore, your the 3rd million Steve.

If you were to hate this topic, guess what? I'D MUCH RATHER YOU DID THEN COPY ME! I'm my own person, I'd rather not have people copy me.

I like Albert Einstein, but while I'm intelligent, I'm not gonna try and copy him.
Reply #28 Top
Are all the new Vista haters children?


Your just repeating a history of stupidity that will probably last until mankind dies (Probably from this stupidity)


People are stupid.


And yes, my topics are about as easy to understand as you'd expect for someone who is absent minded and has a speech impediment.


I usually have someone else write what I need to say. if I write it myself, it's a disaster.


The point of the topic was that people will make their own choice.


No, I simply feel that most people don't make their own choice.[/quote]

I like Albert Einstein, but while I'm intelligent, I'm not gonna try and copy him.


Zellio these are all you words, you said more but these I thought were interesting.

It's somewhat not unlike the caterpillar changing into the butterfly.

Have a great day.







Reply #29 Top
So, say there's a house. And it's not big enough for your family. Do you buy that house?

Now, say that the person selling the house adds an additional room onto it, and it is now big enough for your family. Because you didn't like the house before, you should not buy it now, right? I mean, if you hate Vista now, you need to hate it forever, even when they improve it.

Vista is going to take over when Vista is better than XP. It isn't now, it needs to be fixed and improved. Because I hate Vista now, that does not mean that improved Vista will be hated as well.
Reply #30 Top
Hey Zellio I went and checked your other posts. I must say that your fishing tactics have not improved much. We still won't take the bait.   
Reply #31 Top
Are all the new Vista haters children?

Or do people not remember how this went out during Xp's launch?

Xp was like Seinfield, it was never a complete success like some think, at the end of the first year only 10% of users actually used it.

I bought Xp at launch, on a celeron 500 with a geforce 4 pci and 256 megs ram (Yeah, go me.). This same shit you see now, was going on during the Xp launch.

People were saying Xp is just a visual makeover that makes their games go slower. Windows 98 can do the same things Xp does and more.

As much as some fools here will say they'll wait for Vienna, when Vienna eventually comes they'll be playing the same damn game.

BTW, one finla thing I forgot to mention. When I was 19 in 1998 or thereabouts I got windows 98 on a prebuilt.

Guess what people were saying about Windows 98?

Guess what people were saying when Windows 95 came out? I was 16, I remember.

The one OS I avoided was Windows ME. No one is probably old enough to remember, but ME was special. It was the one OS that at one point had more returns then sales.

As much as you wanna bag on Vista, calling it ME2, it ain't no ME2, and you'll eventually be using it, complaign all you want.

Your just repeating a history of stupidity that will probably last until mankind dies (Probably from this stupidity)

People are stupid.

BTW, read the whole topic before responding. Or just read this next line since the majority of people responding don't seem to understand.

1. Hate vista for reasons that are true.
2. Don't play a hating charade only to use Vista at the end.
3: Saying people can mean any number of people, not just everyone.

Personally I'd love to see a new OS take over, but that won't happen unless people stop this hate/love charade.

If you honestly want to see a new OS, that will actually come from guts. Not playing the same game everyone else has.

Heh . . history DOES repaet itself! 
Reply #32 Top
well done Zubaz very good

I use both mainly XP because I find it easier and quicker to use XP


Reply #33 Top
Vista is coming off my system this weekend. Dual booting XP and Vista doesn't work so well and I sure am not ready to go full Vista so back to XP I go until Vista SP1.
Reply #34 Top
1. Seinfeld is the number 1 sitcom of all time.


And your smoking crack if you seriously think that. :)

Zellio - people dislike Vista because it's an half baked poorly planned out OS that has holes in it. Even MS has admitted Vista wasn't ready - I read that the other day on the net.

If Vista was so good Dell and other companies wouldn't be offering XP as an OS option...

Oh and yes everyone I had Vista installed on this machine the other day. Installed a graphics driver and got a BSOD. I'm not impressed.
Reply #35 Top

it's amazing how the same ppl who bitched about xp when it was released are now praising it and complaining about vista. vista needs upscale hardware to run correctly, there's no doubt. it was the same when xp was released. ppl had to upgrade their hardware to use xp most of the time. 98 didn't need as much ram, i know. do not try telling me xp can run fine and dandy on 128 megs of ram. you know as well as i do that it can't. 256 isn't enough! if you want to run vista on a rig that has a low-end vid card and no ram, so be it. just don't expect very much.

i've put vista and vista 64 on numerous rigs and have had only one person complain and want to go back to xp. but then again, i told her vista on an amd 2800 and 512 megs of ram won't run very well.

Reply #36 Top
No one is probably old enough to remember, but ME was special.




started on an Commodore 64 back in the 80's before there was an OS so to speak..


tons of lines of code on the old apples to get a green ball to bounce across the screen.. ;)

Reply #37 Top
Yeah I remember the old Commodore 64 days. Had those in first and second grade before they switched to Apple IIs.
Reply #38 Top
I found it quite ammusing that even the Mac commercials are mocking Vista now   


You mean;
'Hi, I'm a self involved hypocritical asshole '
'and I'm a PC'



Reply #39 Top
I had Vista installed on this machine the other day.

so does that put you up to like 20 minutes of REAL experience with it now...  :LOL: 

people dislike Vista because it's an half baked poorly planned out OS that has holes in it.


bullshit...

Reply #40 Top
as with every release a OS has issues... it was the same with 98 XP and is with Vista. any body who expects New Software to be 100% bug free .. is a fool of the highest standard...
Reply #41 Top
Very true HG!
Reply #42 Top
And in 2010 - 2011, everybody who's slamming Vista now will be defending it against Windows 10 or Vienna...whatever it'll be called. Yep, SP1 and SP2 will have plugged the couple of iffy bits they've all been bitching about, so then it'll be the bees knees and the 'I hate/loathe/despise new OSes' will start all over again.

And when Windows Near-to Perfection comes out in 2020, me ol' mate Wayne 'll still be running his copies of 95 & 98SE. :SURPRISED: :LOL:

Me, I only hate new diseases.... a past MD certified me as being a hypocondriac, so I'm bound to have 'em. ;p
Reply #43 Top

Unless MS releases a SP4 for XP, support for XP will be gone in 5 - 7 years (or thereabouts) after the release of SP3.

That being said, I am thinking that Vista will then be a relatively mature OS offered by MS (and will likely be at SP2 or better, if history does repeat itself here) and should be a reasonably solid and well supported platform.

Most IT personnel I know will wait until Vista SP1 is released before testing because they have the history of Windows '98, 2000 and XP to validate their thinking that the service pack will address some security and other issues that are important to their line of work.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and a choice. I for one just recently decided to stick with Vista Business edition (32 bit) full time and just let go of XP and Linux. A choice I made based on the fact that I just don't need the blazing speed missing in the current Vista code, nor do I need the rendering of the icons to be instantaneous at this time (although it would be nice when opening explorer). The security is good enough for my personal use, so Linux would just be a hobby for me.

I also based that decision on living life to a larger extent away from the computer, so I can now simply enjoy the time I do spend on my home machine.

I agree that hating anything is a waste of energy. ;)

Reply #44 Top
/me huggles Corky_O (he doesn't post nearly enough these days).  [Good to see you my friend]
Reply #45 Top
Starkers - I hope by 2011 that MS is gone and Linux is the OS of choice.

I'm telling everyone I know to switch to Linux.

Phoon - whatever...

(By the way in case anyone is wondering - yes I use Windows 90 percent of the time I use the computer here at home. I just don't use Vista. ;p )
Reply #46 Top
Kona...good luck with that. The rest of us non-Linux luddites will keep computing in THIS century (instead of being stuck in the command line 70's), thanks. ;)
Reply #47 Top

No one is probably old enough to remember, but ME was special.

Um....just how old do you think we are? ....;)

ME was about '99/2000 or so....we'd be, what, seven?...;)

Reply #48 Top
I remember when they came out with calculators that the masses could afford.  It was about 5inx7jn, 4 function and cost about $100USD.  Hehe, computers, they were the size of buildings still.  I think I read that the support for XP will end in a year or so, not 5-7 years.  But what does it matter, I think we all agree that ME was the crappiest OS ever.  I liked 95, XP was great and so far Vista is doing good.
Reply #49 Top
How times Change early 70's a calculator was the must have thing.
Window's were just for looking through.
Reply #50 Top
The rest of us non-Linux luddites will keep computing in THIS century (instead of being stuck in the command line 70's), thanks.


Uh, yeah.

If you'd actually USED one of the better Linux distros, you'd know how very, very misguided that statement is.

But don't let me stop you from enjoying your hallucinations. Have another mushroom, my friend :)