History repeating itself, as usual.

Are all the new Vista haters children?

Or do people not remember how this went out during Xp's launch?

Xp was like Seinfield, it was never a complete success like some think, at the end of the first year only 10% of users actually used it.

I bought Xp at launch, on a celeron 500 with a geforce 4 pci and 256 megs ram (Yeah, go me.). This same shit you see now, was going on during the Xp launch.

People were saying Xp is just a visual makeover that makes their games go slower. Windows 98 can do the same things Xp does and more.

As much as some fools here will say they'll wait for Vienna, when Vienna eventually comes they'll be playing the same damn game.

BTW, one finla thing I forgot to mention. When I was 19 in 1998 or thereabouts I got windows 98 on a prebuilt.

Guess what people were saying about Windows 98?

Guess what people were saying when Windows 95 came out? I was 16, I remember.

The one OS I avoided was Windows ME. No one is probably old enough to remember, but ME was special. It was the one OS that at one point had more returns then sales.

As much as you wanna bag on Vista, calling it ME2, it ain't no ME2, and you'll eventually be using it, complaign all you want.

Your just repeating a history of stupidity that will probably last until mankind dies (Probably from this stupidity)

People are stupid.

BTW, read the whole topic before responding. Or just read this next line since the majority of people responding don't seem to understand.

1. Hate vista for reasons that are true.
2. Don't play a hating charade only to use Vista at the end.
3: Saying people can mean any number of people, not just everyone.

Personally I'd love to see a new OS take over, but that won't happen unless people stop this hate/love charade.

If you honestly want to see a new OS, that will actually come from guts. Not playing the same game everyone else has.
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1. Seinfeld is the number 1 sitcom of all time.

2. Vista has many faults that have nothing to do with it being "new" Just bad decisions with regards to intuitiveness, useabilty and most definately.. skinning it. Nothing you or anyone else can say will change my mind or any other skinner I know. If you don't agree, you haven't tried fully skinning it.  

3. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Good points.

It does get me upset though when people make up bullshit about Vista.

If you want to complaign, complaign about the one major complaint I have: Every damn Microsoft OS has been basically a visual upgrade with a few things added in (Except ME, which was a disaster).

What's worse is they end up not being visually on par to the competition (IE Linux), just like John Madden Football....

Yet it sales the best, just like John Madden.

We may as well call it (Vista) John Madden Windows 2008.

I'd personally love an OS that changed more then Windows does, but an OS like that won't come from people hating it and then buying it, as is the case with a new football game.

P.S. if you want to make my Ea-Windows reference go further, their's as many versions of Vista as their are of the Sims.

Make your own joke.
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Zellio because I don't have Vista on my computer does not make me a Vista hater. Yes what you say is true about what happens when a new MS OS comes out. But you are also making a similar error in painting everyone who doesn't have Vista installed with a wide brush. You generalize way too much. The actual number of Vista haters is probably way less then the number of people who haven't upgraded. And we haven't upgraded because we don't want to. It's called choice.

And another thing, we are not stupid. Using your theroy, because people don't adapt to or upgrade to the next new thing, whatever it is, we are not intelligent (better word then stupid). Just not the case. Chances are we are spending our time with more important issues than what OS someone is running on their computer.

Look, you made a choice, that's fine. Now get on with what we all have to face day in and day out, life. Surely there must be something else you have passion about, health care, energy concerns, our world in turmoil.

Have a great day.   
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I'm not painting with a wide brush or anything.

It is your choice. In the same light, don't BS and make up lies with your choice just to end up using Vista in the end. It honestly makes you a hypocrite.

If you want another choice of an OS, choose one. But don't charade around it, making up lies to help you make your 'choice'.

It's honestly annoying as hell when people play the Windows hate charade and then end up using it at the end.
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Ahh, yes, and then there is the flip side of the "SSDD" scenario:

The end user who implies that anyone who dare criticize the latest and greatest is somehow unsophisticated or parroting lies.

The truth is, there are as many reasons not to upgrade to Vista as there are reasons to upgrade.

What I want to see, though, is a world where all of the information on operating systems doesn't come direct from Redmond. I believe the PC world has grown up enough that choice should be a factor in operating systems. But choice can't come about unless you can carefully weigh the pros and cons of each.

Reply #6 Top
I say the same thing in every "OMG VISTA SUX, LOL!" thread that gets posted. Its happened before and will happen again.

One thing that really gets on my nerves, when people call Vista an ME2. It's impossible because of one thing, Windows ME didn't use the NT kernal, Vista does. Since the kernal is pretty much the heart of the OS that arguement should instantly get labled as large amounts of pig shi.......use your imagination to finish that, im sure everyone gets my point   
Reply #7 Top
I'm leaving this topic, and hopefully it won't turn into disaster.

If you wish to understand what the topic is about, it's about choice.

Don't be a hypocrite.

And read the whole topic before responding, as the point of the topic was never laid out for the everyday man to understand. Reading the whole topic will let you understand.
Reply #8 Top
No offense but when have you seen me personally make up lies about Vista. Come on show me a list of items or statements that I personally have put forth?

There you go again lumping everyone together that doesn't see you view or hold your opinion.

I have no problem with people using Vista. If my computer craps out it is possible that I will end up with one that has Vista as an operating sys. And if it doesn't, well what's MS next OS being called?
Reply #9 Top
You call everyone stupid yet you can't seem to make any sense.   

We all thought we knew everything at 28.
Reply #10 Top
Don't be a hypocrite.


Even though I agree with your arguement here, please stop calling everyone a hypocrite. It's human nature not to want change, they're XP machine works, and thats great. I'm not even going into the whole hardware factor where alot of people just plain out don't have enough horsepower in the machine they own to run Vista flawlessly as others do.
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I found it quite ammusing that even the Mac commercials are mocking Vista now   
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Hum... I guess I should lay out what I mean in laymans terms since the people who have posted obviously don't get it.

1. Hate vista for reasons that are true.
2. Don't play a hating charade only to use Vista at the end.
3: Saying people can mean any number of people, not just everyone.

Personally I'd love to see a new OS take over, but that won't happen unless people stop this hate/love charade.
Reply #13 Top
I found it quite ammusing that even the Mac commercials are mocking Vista now

Mac commercials mock everything but fail to say anything about their own OS. I don't think people are going to switch from Windows to OS X based solely on the purpose that Steve Jobs says Windows sucks.
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Nothing will change unless people choose to.

If you like Vista, use it. If not, don't.

If you really want a new OS, then don't play this charade. Don't make history again.

If you want Vista to take over, then let it.
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And yes, my topics are about as easy to understand as you'd expect for someone who is absent minded and has a speech impediment.
Reply #16 Top
Just one question for you Zellio, has anyone who has replied here said they hated Vista?   
Reply #17 Top
I found it quite ammusing that even the Mac commercials are mocking Vista now


Apparently Leopard isn't winning any fans either. It has the macfanatics all in a huff.

Reply #18 Top
This isn't about a reply, it's about the general consensus.

People complaign about Vista, in nearly every forum, but just like the other people who complaigned about earlier OS's, they are all weak and eventually give in.

If people truly dislike Vista, then show it.

If you ask why I say this when no one in this topic has hated Vista, a message cannot truly get across unless one is willing to speak it.

Even if you were to say it to a bunch of drunk men, at least the message would get across. Not very well, but you'd have at least said it.
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One thing that really gets on my nerves, when people call Vista an ME2. It's impossible because of one thing, Windows ME didn't use the NT kernal, Vista does. Since the kernal is pretty much the heart of the OS that arguement should instantly get labled as large amounts of pig shi.......use your imagination to finish that, im sure everyone gets my point


Astyanax,

MARKETING has nothing to do with what kernel the O/S is built on.

The ME2 comparisons usually have to do with marketing and usability, not with the actual guts of the O/S.
Reply #20 Top
If people truly dislike Vista, then show it.


Oh, you mean by running Linux on 3 of my 5 machines, with the other two machines running XP?

Gotcha!
Reply #21 Top
Does everyone now understand?

I apologize for my hopelessly useless ability to actually speak and make people understand what I say.

I usually have someone else write what I need to say. if I write it myself, it's a disaster.
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The ME2 comparisons usually have to do with marketing and usability, not with the actual guts of the O/S.

It's not marketing, its more like slander if you ask me. I don't see anyone marketing ME2, the only place ive seen people use that analogy is is on this very site.
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I don't think people are going to switch from Windows to OS X based solely on the purpose that Steve Jobs says Windows sucks.


I think you may be surprised.
Reply #24 Top
I think you may be surprised.


After being in a fairly large Windows -> OS X customization community, no not at all.
Reply #25 Top
The point of the topic was that people will make their own choice.

Mac OSX is another story. I have the same problems with that as with Windows, as I see nothing but basically Apple zombies buying it.