Still obsessed with Bush and this AWOL nonsense again?





Right, you mean the Americans that you think should rely completely on the government? 

I didn't think it possible you could get any more deranged. Well, you've proven me wrong again.

Reply By: Island Dog Posted: Friday, August 24, 2007
Not nearly as scary as AWOL GEORGE being Commander-in-Chief!!!!


Still obsessed with Bush and this AWOL nonsense again?

No just stating a fact!



“One big difference-- I am not screwing up the lives of Millions of Americans the way Bush is doing!


Right, you mean the Americans that you think should rely completely on the government?”

No I mean MOST Americans including many on this Blog Site that are either too stubborn or stupid to know just how much harm GWB has done to our country!

The pot IS calling the kettle black.

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From Urban Dictionary:

Bush Derangement Syndrome

"As first described by conservative columnist and Psychiatrist Charles Krauthammer, Bush Derangement Syndrome (or BDS) is a loss of the capability for rational thought. This loss is often displayed over a period of hours, days or even months and years. The sufferer in all cases blames President George W. Bush for any and all types of disasters, human maladies, etc. despite abundant evidence of contrary causal effects. BDS is also manifested in many sufferers by a determination to label President Bush as the greatest single threat to democracy and freedom in the United States since the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts during the presidency of John Adams. Also, closely related, see Karl Rove Syndrome (KRS)."

Col, do you think this sounds like you?

Col, do you think this sounds like you?

Better look again. I never blamed Bush for, "any and all types of disasters". I have acknowledged that many of the issues that we are facing were present when Bush took office. The problem is that Bush and the policies he and the GOP implemented not only did not help resolve those problems but has made them worse. Thus, I do not blame Bush for "Any and All Disasters"

There have been some issues that Bush has created such as the $4 Trillion dollars he added to the national Debt. When he took office the annual budget was balanced for the first time in 20 years and the deficit was $5.7 Trillion. Today the deficit is over $9 Trillion and will be close to $10 Trillion by the time Bush leaves office. Iraq is a second problem that Bush created. The attack on our country on 9/11 has NOTHING to do with Iraq and it was Bush that insisted on invading Iraq despite the advice that would cause a quagmire and that it would destabilize Iraq as it has done. It was Bush who did not sent the force levels the generals said were needed to successfully control Iraq when Saddam and his government was removed! Thus those two are 100% Bush.

Better look at BDS again. Anything that Krauthammer says is not worth the time to consider. Sounds like some “take the focus off Bush" to me!

what ones haven't you blamed bush for.

Reply By: danielost Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2007
Better look again. I never blamed Bush for, "any and all types of disasters". I have acknowledged that many of the issues that we are facing were present when Bush took office.


“What ones haven't you blamed bush for?”

Here are the More Important ones:


Social Security and Medicare funding issue-- the problem is Bush suggested a change to Social Security that made the problem of paying the benefits to the Boomers worse and added the prescription drug plan to Medicare without paying for the added cost. Thus Bush did not cause these two problems but has in the case of Social security done NOTHING and for Medicare has made the existing problem much worse.


Bush did not create the illegal immigration problem but has done NOTHING to solve the problem. He does not enforce the existing laws to protect the border and go after employers that hire illegals.

He did not create the trade problem. However he expanded a trade policy that had failed for 8 Years before he took office and has made the problem he inherited twice as big of a problem.

Bush did not cause 9/11 but attacked a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and has not finished dealing with the country where 9/11 was planned. He has diverted the majority of our assets to fighting a war we van not win in a country that when we invaded had NOTHING to do the war on terrorism. He enabled al-Qaeda to set up operations in Iraq.

He did create the unbalanced budget problem. The budget was balanced when he took over and has added $4 Trillion to the debt!

The poor performance in Public Education existed before Bush and he did NOTHING to improve it.

Bush did not cause Katrina but failed to deal with the devastation of that storm.

Bush did not cause the infrastructure to crumble but he has done NOTHING to deal with this problem.

HE HAS SHOWN A TOTAL LACK OF LEADERSHIP!!!!!

He did not create the trade problem

Bush did not cause 9/11

The poor performance in Public Education existed before Bush

Bush did not cause Katrina

Bush did not cause the infrastructure to crumble

He has not done ANYTHING to solve any of the above problems. He has not provided LEADERSHIP!

so he didn't cause these problems but it is his fault that nothing has been done about them.


one more time. WHICH ONES HAVE YOU NOT BLAMED ON BUSH.

"one more time. WHICH ONES HAVE YOU NOT BLAMED ON BUSH."

Are you just to dumb to be able to read? I said I did not blame Bush for ANY of the items I listed. That does not mean they are not serious issues that need solutions. Bush has done NOTHING to solve or improve ANY on these items. In fact they have gotten worse during his term as President. That is because is lacks effective leadership. Add the issues Bush did create like Iraq and the deficit and you have a president that has failed to meet his responsibilities to this country! He is a DISMNAL FAILURE!!!!!!!!

= blame for not solving the above problems.

Reply By: danielost Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2007
He has not done ANYTHING to solve any of the above problems. He has not provided LEADERSHIP!


“= blame for not solving the above problems”.


CORREECT. I do not blame Bush for creating the problems I listed but I do say he did nothing to deal with them. We do not elect a President to take up space but to resolve the problems facing our country. That is LEADERSHIP. Bush failed Totally to LEAD!

Bush did nothing to protect us before 9/11 even though he was given many warnings by the CIA Director that we were to be attacked. He failed his most basic responsibility to protect America!

shall we talk about the warnings


al queda is going to attack sometime on sept. 11th 2001.

ok now what is the president supposed to do.

Reply By: danielost Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2007
"Shall we talk about the warnings?


al Qaeda is going to attack sometime on sept. 11th 2001.

ok now what is the president supposed to do. "


If you read the warnings that are documented by Tenet and you look at the fact that Bush and Rice did nothing you will understand they both failed to do their job to protect our country. As I said:

It is one thing to be unaware of a possible attack and quite another to IGNORE the warnings from the agency that is charged with proving intelligence to the President and the Security Council. For Bush and Rice to not act on warnings brought from the Director of the CIA is CRIMINAL. No one can say that if Bush and Rice had acted on the warnings that 9/11 would not have happened. But to IGNOIRE these warnings is dereliction of duty on the part of Bush and Rice.

again you fail to answer my question


and the security council is united nations not united states.


the only dereliction of duty is yours.


if those 19 people had been arrested before 9/11. the mainstream media and the democrats would have called bush a racist and tried to impeach him on that. since that is a crime in the usa.

Reply By: danielost Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2007
again you fail to answer my question


and the security council is united nations not united states.

The National Security Council headed by Rice is the principal security agency of the U.S.


Let’s take a look at some of the warnings Bush and Rice ignored and failed to act upon to protect our country.

All this is from At the CENTER of the STORM by George Tenet. I sight to page for each warning. The material in Quotes is the exact text and anything in parentheses is what I have added.

P 136.

“On Jan 13, 2000 (7 days before Bush took office) John McLaughlin, Jim Pavill and Tenet briefed Pres Elect Bush, Cheney and Andy Card. “We told them that out biggest concerns were Terrorism, Proliferation and China. I don’t recall Iraq coming up at all.”

P 138

“ The Vice President’s presence may also have had an unintended chilling effect on the free flow of views as important policy matters were debated.”


P 139

“The Pakistanis always knew more then they were telling us and they had been singularly uncooperative in helping us run these guys (al-Qaeda) down.”


p. 143

“On January 25, 2001 Dick Clark sent a memo to Condi Rice saying there was an urgent need for an NSC Principals Meeting to review his strategy against al-Qaeda”. ( This meeting was never held)

P143

“If we were going to switch from defense to an offensive posture against the Terrorists, we need new covert action authority.” (One of the issued was permission to use the new Predator equipped with the hell Fire Missile from President Bush. Tenet tried over and over again to get Bush to enable the CIA to use this new system).


P 144

“Feb 2001 Usama Bin Ladin and his global network of Lieutenants and associates remain the most immediate and serious threat, Tenet told Rice.”



P 145

“During the spring of 2001, at one of the innumerable Deputies meetings John McLaughlin expressed frustration at the lack of action.”

P145

“May 30, 2001 meeting with Condi Rice Rich (would not further identify) ran through the mounting signs f a coming attack. They were truly frightening.”


P. 149

“On June 28, 2001 we had more then ten specific pieces of intelligence about impending attacks… the intelligence was both unprecedented and virtually 100% reliable. Over the last three to five months we had been witness to never-before seen efforts by Ayman al-Zawahiri to prepare terrorists operations.”

P 149

“All around the Moslem world important operatives were disappearing while others were preparing for martyrdom.”

P. 150-152

“July10, 2001 a meeting with Rice. There will be a significant terrorist attack in the coming weeks or months! The signs were unmistakable. The attack will be spectacular Rich told Condi and the others and it will be designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. Facilities.”


P153


“At the conclusion of the July 10th meeting Condi looked at Cofer and asked, what should we do? Cofer responded this country needs to go on a war footing now!” ( Nothing changed after this meeting In addition the Bush administration kept the very existence of this meeting secret even from the 9/11 Commission The commission and the public did not learn of this July 10th meeting until the Fall of 2006 when the Press learned of the meeting and the dire warning that was ignored by Bush and Rice).


P 156

“On July 24, 2001 King Abdullah of Jordan sent word (to Bush) in his view Bin Laden and his command structure must be dealt with in a decisive and military fashion. He offered to send two battalions of Jordanian Special Forces to go door-to-door in Afghanistan” (Bush took no action).


Page 158-159


“August 6, 2001 the Presidential daily Brief (PDB) entitled, Bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S.” (No action resulted from this PDB)


P 160

“September 4, 2001 (7 days before 9/11) meeting with Rice and Rumsfeld and others was dominated by the same subject and the issue of Bush approving the use of the weaponized Predator Drone” (Bush did not act on this request until a week AFTER 9/11)

There's nothing like a liberal use of CAPITAL LETTERS and underlining and bolding of points to help make ones case.

I mean, I wasn't convinced before of the evils of Bush but then with Gene's charges in all caps, how can you refute that?

gene with all of that crap that you copied. there is nothing there that bush could have done to make the USA safer or stop 9/11. that date isn't even talked about.


so the CIA wanted to be able to attack someone without permission first.



and again you did not answer my question.


what was the president supposed to do specifically to stop 9/11 from happening.

Reply By: danielost Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2007
“gene with all of that crap that you copied. there is nothing there that bush could have done to make the USA safer or stop 9/11. that date isn't even talked about.


so the CIA wanted to be able to attack someone without permission first.



and again you did not answer my question.


what was the president supposed to do specifically to stop 9/11 from happening.”


Act on the warnings he was given. To be told we need to go a WAR FOOTING and do NOTHING is unbelievable. The President acted as if NONE of these warnings existed. He did not act on the request to begin employing the weaponized Predator Drone as Tenet requested time after time. No one knows if we would have prevented 9/11 had Bush moved our country to a War Footing but we do know that we were attacked just like all the warnings foretold that Bush and Rice IGNORED!

ok act on what warnings and how should he have acted. i asked for specific actions not general.

Reply By: danielost Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2007
ok act on what warnings and how should he have acted. i asked for specific actions not general.

All the ones I posted. He did nothing.

how do you protect from an unknown attack. type of attack. how their going to attack. where their going to attack.

come on gene you can't be this stupid.