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An Anti-Choice Argument

An Anti-Choice Argument

A pregnant woman.

What characteristics define this noble creature? Hormonal, of course, and as it should be. Lacking in brain power, quite forgiveable, as the blood that normally visits there is now taken by a new life, which is such a beautiful thing that one can only smile when she forgets her phone number, where she left the car keys, and sometimes, her own name. Women who would never have this kind of problem under any other condition, any other stress...

In other words, a pregnant woman is the LAST person who should be making ANY sort of life changing decision, even in her OWN life.

Why, then, do we leave this decision up to her? It may be her body, but she is in an altered state during this time.

So why, how can we even think that this person should have a decision that could impact the world, and her own life, with such magnitude? It doesn't make any sense!

Alas, there is nobody that can choose for her, including herself. The woman, even before she is pregnant, is not properly equipped to choose. During the pregnancy, as discussed, is not fit to choose. After the pregnancy is too late. It is nobody else's right to make the decision for her. I can think of only one other soul who has any right to choose in this instance - and they are not born yet, not nearly old enough to choose.
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Reply #26 Top
So what is impairing her cognitive ability, then?


men
Reply #27 Top
It's easy to believe in a position when you have the facts wrong to start, which is now the entire point of this article! My thinking was quite logical, given what I was working from.

Like the fact that a baby is not a living human until it is born. OF COURSE you can support abortion if that's a fact - but it's not. It's either a lie or an opinion. Either way, I feel it's better to err on the side of caution and NOT kill.

By the way, accountants don't do math. We have calculators and MS Excel to do math for us! But, if I analyze a file, and I talk to the insured, and they tell me something that they were mistaken about, I might analyze the file incorrectly. Absolutely. But if they give me the truth, it will get done right. The logic isn't the problem, the presumption is.

Which, of course, is what everyone seems to have had a problem with, and for good reason. Exactly as I intended. To show how the anti-life argument is based on a flawed presumption, as well, and therefore should be discarded much like this one. The only difference is, we don't have a bunch of unborn children typing in how they're alive, and how dare you presume they're not.

"Oh. My. Gawd. I can't believe you even wrote I'm not alive," they would say!
Reply #28 Top
By the way, accountants don't do math.


then your not a very good accountant.
Reply #29 Top
Accounting has very little math involved. Checking math, perhaps. But it's more about classification than actual math.

(for any who saw what was posted here to start with, I apologize as it was uncalled for and has been edited away as such)
Reply #30 Top
I was just joking about the 'exactly as I intended part'.

Anyway, prohibiting all decision making was never part of it. Just one decision should not be able to be made. I love how everyone blows it out of proportion from shouldn't make the decision to kill her kid to shouldn't make any decision.

And I wouldn't have liked your friend Randy Weaver, who I'm sure you were very close with, when you weren't menstruating that is.

The forgetfulness pregnancy causes is documented. It exists. I watched my wife go through it. I'm watching my coworker's wife go through it. I even provided links for it. So whether or not it made your father dull, slow, and forgetful, it does happen to pregnant women, mostly in the first and third trimester.

As for menstruation, if you're menstruating, you're probably not pregnant. Therefore, you are probably not deciding whether or not to have an abortion. So it's a moot point, isn't it, as that's the only decision that shouldn't be made?
Reply #31 Top
If I have time today I'll rip you a new asshole.

I've got to to go to Wal-Mart first.

Reply #32 Top
Have a nice trip to the store!
Reply #33 Top
If I have time today I'll rip you a new asshole


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahah. i sho do love me some tw!
Reply #34 Top
I've got to to go to Wal-Mart first.


Great. I'm headed to the break room to pop some popcorn!
Reply #35 Top
i sho do love me some tw!


HAHAHA me too!
Reply #36 Top
If I have time today I'll rip you a new asshole.


Oh boy. You're done, dude. Better hope for a long line at Mycomart.
Reply #37 Top
Judging by my Wal-Mart experience, she could be there for hours. Just getting from one side of the store to the other is a haul. Never mind waiting in the lines... but then again, it is a Monday. Most people are at work. So she could be back any minute...

I'm actually very curious about what she feels the need to say as, after all, I have already recinded the argument when I realized that I was confusing the forgetfulness with loss of cognitive abilities.

I really hope she doesn't want to rehash what everyone else already said, just in a more hateful way. I really hope she has something new to add to this conversation.
Reply #38 Top
If I have something to say, it will always be new and always add to the conversation. LOL.

During pregnancy a woman's blood volume increases, as does her heart rate. Yes, there is increased blood flow to the uterus, but not at the detriment of the brain.

Have you shown this to your wife?

It is one of the most ignorant, misogynistic pieces of crap I've read on JU. Even Xythe and Dr.Guy wouldn't post something so full of disdain, condescension, and disrespect to the female race.

Your premise is flawed, yes, and you've admitted that. But there's still the pesky little matter of you actually buying into this and believing that pregnant women are hormonal idiots, incapable of the most simple tasks and especially incapable of any sort of decision-making.

Is that really how you saw your wife when she was carrying your children?

Let me tell you something. When I was pregnant with my daughter I was raising 2 boys by myself. I kept the house clean, kept the budget, planned menus, did the shopping and cooking, took out the trash, got the kids to school, made sure the homework was done, scrubbed toilets, got the boys to Cub Scout meetings and outings, did crafts and Cub Scout tasks with the boys, camped out with them, put together all the baby gear and did all the preparation for our new arrival, and shopped for, got financing and insurance for, and bought a new vehicle.

All by my stupid, drooling, slack-jawed little pregnant self.

I'll be sure to let my husband know that it was a severe error in judgment for him to trust me to purchase a vehicle much less feed and care for the children. Imagine the damage I could have done. Aren't we lucky things turned out so well?

Maybe next pregnancy he can put me in a padded room so I don't hurt myself.

Ridiculous, Jythier. Ridiculous that you would even entertain this idea. AT ALL.



Reply #39 Top

All by my stupid, drooling, slack-jawed little pregnant self.


Oh Tex, will a single clever thought ever enter that pretty skull of yours? Those tasks would have been so much more competently done by a man! Your husband is probably just trying not to worry you with all the fixing he's had to do!

All sarcasm aside...

Jythier, I can't believe you've found someone willing to breed with you. The mind boggles.
Reply #40 Top
BTW, females aren't a race, we're a gender. D'oh! Must be left-overs from pregnancy. Stupid uterus, always making me do stupid things.
Reply #41 Top
Accounting has very little math involved. Checking math, perhaps. But it's more about classification than actual math.


i have a cert. in accounting true it isn't a college degree. but i do have some knowledge of accounting.
Reply #42 Top
Hey brother,

Lacking in brain power? Ewwwwwww I knew you were dead in the water when I read that.

trying to figure a way to help get you out of the hole, but it's a really really deep hole you've gotten yourself into, and I'm not strong enough to help get you out.





Reply #43 Top
Has anyone noticed that MM is sitting on the sidelines measuring my buddy for his coffin? Jythier you really need to quickly write at least a dozen 'please ladies I was on drugs' articles or that was not me writing it was an Illegal alien that broke into my home and is trying to ruin my blog life. or Try the temporary insanity plea or you could just beg, begging works real well with the ladies here.
Reply #44 Top
begging works real well with the ladies here.


So does chocolate, I'm told! A few well sent Dove bars and these ladies might just forget it ever happened...lol!
Reply #45 Top
trying to figure a way to help get you out of the hole, but it's a really really deep hole you've gotten yourself into, and I'm not strong enough to help get you out.


Even your SON doesn't dig holes THIS deep, KFC! LOL!
Reply #46 Top

Has anyone noticed that MM is sitting on the sidelines measuring my buddy for his coffin?

Pass the Popcorm Elie.

Reply #47 Top
"Your premise is flawed, yes, and you've admitted that. But there's still the pesky little matter of you actually buying into this and believing that pregnant women are hormonal idiots, incapable of the most simple tasks and especially incapable of any sort of decision-making."

If you want to think that's what I said, go ahead. But it's not. And if you want to make it out to be all this you go right ahead.

All I said was that women should not be making decisions about aborting their children while they are pregnant, or before they are pregnant. That's it. That's the end of it. If you want to make me out as if I was talking about every little decision, then that's your problem. Makes me sad that you would think I thought like that. But, there you go. But I know what women are capable of. And I respect it. I just don't want them messing up their lives because they made a decision while they weren't 100% that they cannot undo.
Reply #48 Top
Makes me sad that you would think I thought like that.


Please, please re-read what you posted.

I just don't want them messing up their lives because they made a decision while they weren't 100% that they cannot undo.


Yes, good thing we have men around to keep us from making bad decisions in our fragile conditions.

I am just really surprised to see this from you. Like I said, read it again. It is NUTS.
Reply #49 Top
Has anyone noticed that MM is sitting on the sidelines measuring my buddy for his coffin?

Pass the Popcorm Elie.


i'll take some as long as it isn't theater popcorn
Reply #50 Top
hahahaha poor Jythier. We'll all teasing him in good fun right guys....right?   

So does chocolate, I'm told! A few well sent Dove bars and these ladies might just forget it ever happened...lol!


uh-oh Gid...this is almost just as bad...trying to buy us off now? You think a few Dove bars is going to erase the memory regarding ....lack of brain power? Huh? I think it's going to take a bit more than Dove bars, however good they are. I'm thinking like a full 4 course dinner.

and throw in a movie for good measure....we're talking chick flick.