why dont we blame the real problem

the democrats

Reply By: danielost Posted: Sunday, July 08, 2007
"why dont we blame the real problem

the democrats"

NO the IRAQ WAR IS 100% GWB. We would not be at war if Bush had not lied to Congress and if he had listened to the military leaders and sent enough troops to prevent the violence we see in Iraq. This weekend 220 were killed in and around Baghdad. So much for the Surge. The surge is in the level of violence.

the violence was dieing down until the democrats last year started yelling about too many deaths.

about we cannot win this war.

about we should withdraw.

about we need a set day for said withdraw.

they also promised to make bush withdraw the troops. by the way who won that fight.

the democrats promised to let us lose this war so they could be elected.

the democrats gave the insurgents hope. with hope you can do almost anything.

you are supporting our militaries biggest enemy and it isn't the insurgents in iraq. it is the democrats in office in washington.

the general in charge keeps saying that we should be able to start withdrawing troops in march because of the surge.

so who do i believe so washed up idiot who thinks he used to be a col. of something. or the general in charge.

i will put my money on the general in charge instead of some arm chair quarterback.

Posted: Sunday, July 08, 2007
"the violence was dieing down until the democrats last year started yelling about too many deaths."

There would not be any violence if Bush had not invaded Iraq or had sent enough troops to prevent the internal and external terrorism!

"about we cannot win this war." That is true and it is because of Bush.

the democrats promised to let us lose this war so they could be elected. That is BS. The GOP lost because the American People do not support their policies in Iraq and almost everything else.


The general in charge keeps saying that we should be able to start withdrawing troops in March because of the surge.


Then Bush should not object to Congress requiring a withdrawal in 2008 as part of the new budget.


I will put my money on the general in charge instead of some arm chair quarterback." Most of our generals said the Surge would not reduce the violence. Most of our generals said it would take 500,000 troops to control Iraq after Saddam was removed!

ok so your saying your comfortable with a mass murderer in control of chem. weapons and nuke weapons



and i said that the general in charge said it is working

and your little quote above proves that it is starting to work.



so your trying to tie the presidents hands again.

Reply By: danielost Posted: Sunday, July 08, 2007
Ok so you’re saying you’re comfortable with a mass murderer in control of chem. weapons and nuke weapons. I am not comfortable with that but there are many countries where the dictators have the WMD that Saddam DID NOT have. We attacked a country that was at the bottom of the Danger list. WHY?

"And I said that the general in charge said it is working"


The leaders in Iraq and the continued attacks say the opposite. Now Iraqi Leaders are telling the average person in Iraq to ARM themselves because they have no confidence in the military to prevent attacks. That does NOT show that the Surge is working. READ:



International News Printable View Politicians to Iraqis: Arm Yourselves
By ROBERT H. REID (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
July 09, 2007 5:26 AM EDT
BAGHDAD - Prominent Shiite and Sunni politicians called on Iraqi civilians to take up arms to defend themselves after a weekend of violence that claimed more than 220 lives, including 60 who died Sunday in a surge of bombings and shootings around Baghdad.

The calls reflect growing frustration with the inability of Iraqi security forces to prevent extremist attacks.

The weekend deaths included two American soldiers - one killed Sunday in a suicide bombing on the western outskirts of Baghdad and another who died in combat Saturday in Salahuddin province north of the capital, the U.S. command said. Three soldiers were wounded in the Sunday blast.

The Iraq Government has not met a single benchmark to resolve the many issues essential to ending the violence in Iraq. It is now time to bring our troops home and allow the Iraqi people to deal with the future of Iraq.

Official: Iraq Gov't Missed All Targets
By ANNE FLAHERTY and ANNE GEARAN (Associated Press Writers)
From Associated Press
July 09, 2007 8:45 PM EDT
WASHINGTON - A progress report on Iraq will conclude that the U.S.-backed government in Baghdad has not met any of its targets for political, economic and other reform, speeding up the Bush administration's reckoning on what to do next, a U.S. official said Monday.

One likely result of the report will be a vastly accelerated debate among President Bush's top aides on withdrawing troops and scaling back the U.S. presence in Iraq.

The "pivot point" for addressing the matter will no longer be Sept. 15, as initially envisioned, when a full report on Bush's so-called "surge" plan is due, but instead will come this week when the interim mid-July assessment is released, the official said.

"The facts are not in question," the official told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because the draft is still under discussion. "The real question is how the White House proceeds with a post-surge strategy in light of the report."

from what i have heard today if it is true then we do need to leave Iraq now.

is this bushes fault NO.

it is the so called leaders in Iraq.

they seem to be playing games and it is time to stop playing their game.

the government of Iraq is failing

but the people of Iraq are starting to stand up for themselves

so dictator gene what do we do abandon the people because the government has failed to do its job

Col, what you never seem to grasp is that, thanks to our operations, as flawed as they have been, in Iraq and Afghanistan, and to our heightened sense of alert, much terrorist activity has been precluded. It destabilizes the terror networks. Without it, there'd likely have been dozens of of attacks, if not hundreds, by now. The "sectarian violence" in Iraq is turning on al-Qaeda, now, too, by the way.

You don't want admit any of this, though, because, like all tunnel-vision Bush-haters, it doesn't fit your view of Demon Bush as evil genius/moron/scheming puppetmaster/incompetent fratboy/diabolical manipulator/lightweight idiot.

Make up your mind already.

Rightwinger

I do not doubt that Iraqi's oppose al Qaeda. The problem is that we have allowed BOTH the internal violence between Iraqi's as well as the Foreign Terrorists to take hold in Iraq. When we removed the control exercised by Saddam, we did not have the power to STOP the internal factions from arming and organizing nor did we have the troops to prevent the foreign elements from entering Iraq and establishing operations. Now we have the worst of all worlds-- Internal fighting, Foreign Terrorists, potential conflict with countries like Turkey because of the Kurds and a government that WE ENABLED that is close to Iran and incapable of dealing with either the internal or external violence. They also refuse to make the political choices as the report clearly states. That makes it IMPOSSIBLE for our military to bring stability to Iraq. All we do is a continuous bleed of our troops and money.

The time has come to turn the future of Iraq over top the Iraqi people. If as you say the People want to save their country it may mean a period of more intense violence. The difference it will be up to them. We were WRONG to invade Iraq and then we compounded that mistake by sending less then 1/3 the troop level required to prevent the violence we see in Iraq today. Bush is the one that made those choices and is responsible for one of the worst foreign policy choices this country has ever made.

he will never give up his mad obsession with bush

Reply By: danielost Posted: Tuesday, July 10, 2007
Rightwinger

"
he will never give up his mad obsession with bush "

The Iraq war and the situation we are in today is because of Bush and his poicies. To say anything different is a LIE!

Another useless article. Terrorist have existed long before Bush was President. Does it really matter if they were in Iraq before or not? They would have gotten bigger regardless. I find it stupid that you, Col gene, would think that things would have turned out any different. This would have happened even if we would have just stayed in Afghanistan. Sad to see you are more concerned with what Bush does and not care what the terrorist do. This is like blaming the alcohol companies for drunk drivers. Your logic is stupid, as usual Col.

CharlesCS1

If you believe the war in Iraq has help make America more secure you have lost your mind. We should have delta with 9/11 by dealing with those that planned and executed that horrible attack. Iraq had NOTHING to do with that and we not only diverted our resources by attacking Iraq but increased the number of radicals that are willing to attack us in the future. We set out on a policy that said just establish a democratic government and all will be fine. Nothing is further from the truth. People far more knowledgeable then Bush warned that our invasion of Iraq would get the U.S. Bogged down in a war and that the Moslems would NOT welcome such an invasion EVEN to remove Saddam. Only other Moslems should have removed Saddam and now we are in a NO WIN situation supporting an ineffective government that is like Iran. It is time to turn Iraq over to the Iraqi people. If they choose to allow the fighting to escalate so be it. We can not win this with 160,000 troops and there is no political WILL of the government we helped put into place to make the compromises to settle the internal discord. Add the fact that now two major foreign Terrorist groups have established themselves in Iraq and you have an impossible situation that is a DIRECT result of Bush and his policies. He got his way at every turn and he is responsible along with Congress who enabled Bush to take our country into an unjustified War! It is time to END our involvement in the Iraq War!

OK, first of all I never said anything about believing or not about America being safer. Second, I am so sick of you repeating this stupid sentence every time someone responds to you. Do you not get tired of repeating yourself word for word? You're so blinded by your stupidity that you can't see past "If you believe the war in Iraq has help make America more secure you have lost your mind".

Guess what, I believe we are safer. Why? Simple, the average American is now more attentive of their surroundings. So much that we have reached a point where no Muslim or anyone resembling a Muslim or Arab can go about without being looked at as a terrorist. Not a single act of terrorism has happened here, some stupid wannabe terrorist tried but failed. In Britain 2 out of 3 were stopped and the 3rd did not even kill the terrorist himself. You don't think we are safer? Then you have no faith in this country and it's people. You don't believe in the American way, you have plowed this country into the ground as you were from another country. Your only care is that SS check in the mail. You are so much more concerned with every word Bush says that you see people dying and instead of getting mad at the terrorist you get mad at Bush. These people hated us before Bush was even President and they will continue to hate us even after he's gone. All you are doing is falling in line with them. Keep fighting us, I wonder why terrorist even try to attack us at all. We seem to be doing a better job at screwing ourselves with people like you.

this is what hatered does it blinds you to everything else.


ask dictator gene or the arabs

We are not safer because of invading Iraq. Bush made a mistake and it is time for Congress to END this war!!!!

daniel, why do you even bother to respond to this idiot? You'll notice that for the most part I do not bother to respond to his "particular" brand of idiocy anymore. Maybe if we just ignore him, he'll just fade away.

Just once I'd like to see "one" of klink's post go without even one response.

your right and i am tired of dealing with what might have been instead of what is

I have tried to ignore and I have seen a few of his articles go 0 all the way to the graveyard. But sometimes I get bored and need to bash on someone and he makes such an easy target.