Majority of Americans ARE NOT Conservatives!



Again last night the GOP Presidential candidates fell all over themselves trying to prove they are GOOD CONSERVATIVES. Why do they not understand they are not trying to lead the GOP but the nation? Anyone that looks at what the MAJORITY of Americans want from their government will see that the majority DO NOT want a Conservative Agenda.

We need candidates from BOTH parties that have an agenda that draws from all sides and support policies that are CENTRIST. As a moderate Republican I do not see a candidate that I like in either party! What we are faced with are BAD choices not a leader that represents consensus or someone that unites the country.
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It's been a while since I post on one of your corny articles. Looks like things haven't changed. You want proof of your obsession? Here it is:

Your title:
Majority of Americans ARE NOT Conservatives!


Your own words:
We need candidates from BOTH parties that have an agenda that draws from all sides and support policies that are CENTRIST.


Now, you couldn't write an article that said Anyone that looks at what the MAJORITY of Americans want from their government will see that the majority DO NOT want a Liberals "or" Conservatives agenda. You claim you want Centrist ideals yet you only point to Conservatives and completely ignored the Democratic debates that have taken place before. Typical, it's a miracle you managed to keep Bush's name out of this article.

People want someone who will work for them, who will make decisions that will benefit the American people not themselves or their party. At this point neither the Democrats or the Republicans have anyone that could accomplish any of this. The Democrats have proven that their intentions, after taking over Congress and having almost complete control of the Senate, that what they really wanted was to contradict Bush at every turn. Compromise is not in either of their vocabularies. This Gov't we have today is in more of a civil war than Iraq is. They are nothing but a bunch of selfish bastards (The Bush Administration, Congress and the Senate) who only care about their own personal gain and power and are not really fighting for the American people.
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We need candidates from BOTH parties that have an agenda that draws from all sides and support policies that are CENTRIST. That is what I said BOTH PARTIES. My Blog was about the GOP debate and the fact they were ALL trying to show they were Conservatives. If I had written about the democrat debate I would have used LIBERAL in place of Conservative. My point is correct. A President DOES NOT JUST represent either the Liberals or Conservatives BUT ALL Americans. You can not lead ALL Americans by catering to the wishes of only a minority of our population.

A good example is the claim that is if a Democrat is elected in 2008 YOUR TAXES WILL GO UP. That is a LIE. What Democrats have said is they would increases income taxes on the upper income Americans. Senator Edwards was the most specific-- He would increase taxes on people making ABOVE $200,000 per year to help balance the budget. That means that 90% of Americans WOULD NOT see their taxes go up if a democrat were elected President.
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The first part of this "article" that is not true is the fact that you are not a moderate republican. Your ideas and policies are more aligned with the far left in this country. Let's assume for a second you are correct. Now I don't follow your obsessive articles much anymore, but have you complained about the democratic candidates in the same manner? I see that you have stated that a democratic takes the White House in '08, which as of now would mean complete democratic control. Now I remember you complaining that republicans shouldn't have all the power and it should be "divided", so obviously you don't seem to have that same view when it involves democrats. I also see you don't complain about the democrats who are appeasing their liberal base. Why is it always republicans and conservatives with you? Because you are a democratic supporter I believe. You seriously have no understanding of politics.
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We need candidates from BOTH parties that have an agenda that draws from all sides and support policies that are CENTRIST. That is what I said BOTH PARTIES. My Blog was about the GOP debate and the fact they were ALL trying to show they were Conservatives. If I had written about the democrat debate I would have used LIBERAL in place of Conservative. My point is correct.


You know, no matter how hard I try I just can't resist saying it. You are stupid.You could have written about both debates with the same point but nooooo, you only picked the GOP debate.

A President DOES NOT JUST represent either the Liberals or Conservatives BUT ALL Americans. You can not lead ALL Americans by catering to the wishes of only a minority of our population.


Again, you are stupid. Just because there are more people leaning towards one issue does not make that issue the right one. If we can't even pick a good President what makes you think the American people know what they want? You can't have your cake and eat it too Col. Bush was voted, not once, but twice. If you think he was a bad choice than you think most Americans are stupid. And if they are stupid then how can you trust they know what they want when they could not even pick a good President? The average American does not know what's good for them. They are so lazy voter turn out almost equals Bush's ratings. All they want is more money and less work.

You're crazy if you think the solution to our problems is a Democratic President. And you know what, Island Dog is right. First you say that One single party should not have so much power in our Gov't the way the Republicans had it for many years, now you're being a hypocrit by wanting a Democratic President when both Congress and the Senate are under Democratic control. If you can't follow you're own line of thinking how can I trust you know what's best for this country.

You seriously have no understanding of politics.


I second that. And I thought I was ignorant to politics.
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He would increase taxes on people making ABOVE $200,000 per year to help balance the budget.


again and again you can not raise taxes on the rich without it affecting everyone

becouse all the rich will do is increase their wages to cover the tax increase

and when a business expense goes up so do prices

why are you so stupid you cannot see this

why do you think the CEOS of companies are making millions a year

it is to cover their taxes and pay the minimum wage increases for their home staff ie maids, cooks, gardaners, and whatever else i didn't mention. and yes i know that some or all of these do not get minimum wages.

you raise taxes prices go up

you raise minimum wages prices go up and people get fired. so who benefits from a minimum wage increase the idiots in washington. becouse it makes them look like they care.

A good example is the claim that is if a Democrat is elected in 2008 YOUR TAXES WILL GO UP. That is a LIE.


taxes will not go up in 2008 becouse it is against the law bushes tax cuts stay in effect until 2010(i think). which means a democrat president would have to come up with an override vote in the house and senate.(again i think)
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IslandDog

I believe we need to BALANCE the Budget and not take part in Nation Building which were are two of the foundations of being a republican. I do not support NEW social Programs but insist we fully fund existing programs like Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid. I agree marriage is between a male and female and I do not believe abortion should be an after the fact birth control. These beliefs are in line with the OLD Republican beliefs. Today it is more important to impose our political will in Iraq and cut taxes even if that means operating at a deficit. The prime directive for the conservatives is DO NOT INCREASE ANYONE’S TAXES especially the wealthy.

“Again, you are stupid. Just because there are more people leaning towards one issue does not make that issue the right one.”

YOU ARE STUPID. This is a country where the MAJORITY rules. It is not a dictatorship or a monarchy. What the MAJORITY want is what the policy should reflect.
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He would increase taxes on people making ABOVE $200,000 per year to help balance the budget.


you cant balance the budget with tax and spend policies

and do you know why it is 200,000 a year

becouse most if not all of the reps and senaters make just under 200,000 a year.

that is what they get payed for being reps. and senaters

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“again and again you can not raise taxes on the rich without it affecting everyone.”

That is BS. The wealthy will continue to invest because that is the only way they can expand their business and make more money. The impact of increasing taxes on the wealthy and balancing the budget will have a FAR greater positive impact then to continue the current fiscal policy!

The point I was making is that the GOP LIES when they claim if the Democrats are elected everyone that pays taxes will pay more. ONLY the upper income taxpayers will be impacted by what the democrats are proposing!
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I believe we need to BALANCE the Budget and not take part in Nation Building which were are two of the foundations of being a republican.


Everyone wants a balanced budget col, only liberals like yourself want to increase taxes on successful Americans and Americans business which we have shown will not balance the budget.  The thing we need to elminate is the useless entitlement programs, and the ones democrats are proposing. 

How do you think they are going to pay for their universal healthcare col, taxing the rich just won't cut it?  You are not for more "new social programs", but what do you think democrats are already running on?  Many democrats want to extend our social services to illegal aliens too, creating a whole new welfare class, I mean democratic voters.


The point I was making is that the GOP LIES when they claim if the Democrats are elected everyone that pays taxes will pay more. ONLY the upper income taxpayers will be impacted by what the democrats are proposing!


You didn't answer the question (as usual).  Why don't you hold the democrats the same as republicans?  You are not fair, and you are certainly not moderate.


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but insist we fully fund existing programs like Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid


raise taxes and spend it

YOU ARE STUPID. This is a country where the MAJORITY rules.


this country is where the majority don't vote or say anything

The prime directive for the conservatives is DO NOT INCREASE ANYONE’S TAXES especially the wealthy.


lets see only the wealthy pay taxes anywayts so when tax cuts come in whose is going to be cut.

The wealthy will continue to invest because that is the only way they can expand their business and make more money.


i never said that they would stop investing i said that they would increase their wages if taxes go up. TO PAY FOR THE TAX INCREASE but they have to increase prices to cover the taxes that the price increase will in act. this is called inflation.

i also said that when minimum wages are forced up by the government that prices will go up. and this is also called inflation.

you see if you raise mimimum wages then the companies that only pay minimum will have to increase their prices to pay it and/or fire people. the companies that use those companies will have thier business expense go up and have to raise their prices to cover the new expense.

you said you owned some companies, and you say you take business classes. and if you cannot or will not see what i am saying that makes you pretty stupid. becouse i never took any business classes just accounting classes.

AND AGAIN YOU CANNOT RAISE BUSINESS EXPENSES(IE RAISE TAXES ON THE RICH) BECOUSE ALL THEY DO IS PASS IT ON TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. WHICH IN THE END ARE THE POOR.

congress was controlled by the democrats for 40 years and democrats controlled the house, senate and the president for 2 years but they didn't do anything to cut spending just increased taxes
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“He would increase taxes on people making ABOVE $200,000 per year to help balance the budget.


You can’t balance the budget with tax and spend policies”



Yes the added revenue from increasing taxes for people earning above $200,000 would add to the federal revenue and along with spending cuts and better enforcement would balance the budget and begin repaying the debt.

People making above $200,000 got the Bulk of the Bush tax cuts (70% per the 2005 data) and are the people that can afford to pay more without causing them financial problems. It will also have the least impact on demand and spending.

The issue of the wealthy padding their expenses is addressed with better enforcement. Legitimate and justified expenses are being deducted and some are already trying to deduct expenses that are not legal.


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"The majority of people in this country (and the world) are STUPID. I'd rather be governed by a few smart people than an entire shit load of morons."

IF YOU BELIEVE the Bush administration is made up of SMART PEOPLE, you are living in a dream world. Most of his appointee's, like Bush, are morons and incompetent. They prove that every day with the revelations of just how inept they are at doing their jobs. There has been far too much political payback and not enough attention to the ability to do the job to which they were appointed. Bush had a few smart political operatives that got him elected like Rove & Myers. His best appointees like Powell and O'Neil did not last and we end up with incompetent and or corrupt individuals lead by GWB who brought NOTHING in terms of ability or achievements to the office of President!!!!!!
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“Congress was controlled by the democrats for 40 years and democrats controlled the house, senate and the president for 2 years but they didn't do anything to cut spending just increased taxes”

It took 20 years to balance the budget after Reagan and then Bush returned to a deficit the first year in office. We have NEVER had more Pork, Earmarks and political patronage then during the past 6 years under Bush and the GOP controlled Congress.
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Yes the added revenue from increasing taxes for people earning above $200,000 would add to the federal revenue and along with spending cuts and better enforcement would balance the budget and begin repaying the debt.


I wrote about Edward before of how he wants to use that tax increase to pay for government healthcare.  Once again, tax and social spend liberals have no grasp of reality.


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I said I support higher taxes to BALANCE the budget. My reference to Edwards was not about his health care proposals but his statement that identified the higher tax on the upper income taxpayers. The GOP lies when it says that democrats would increase taxes on the average person. The ONLY group they advocate increasing taxed for are the wealthy who can afford to pay a little more and are the people who are getting the majority of the Bush Tax Cuts!
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The GOP lies when it says that democrats would increase taxes on the average person. The ONLY group they advocate increasing taxed for are the wealthy who can afford to pay a little more and are the people who are getting the majority of the Bush Tax Cuts!


They want to take tax cuts away, that is a tax increase on every person who pays taxes.  You can do you pro-democrat spin all you want, but as usual, you are wrong.

This whole post like the 999,000 others is once again about taxing people who are successful even though your nonsense has been shot down everytime. 


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“They want to take tax cuts away, that is a tax increase on every person who pays taxes. You can do you pro-democrat spin all you want, but as usual, you are wrong.”


That is a LIE. The democrats that have made statements about taxes said they would ONLY increase taxes on the upper income taxpayers like the statement Sen. Edward Made. This is like the Mushroom clouds from the non existent nuclear weapons in Iraq!

SHOW ME where the Democrats have proposed increasing taxes on Middle Income tax Payers?
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SHOW ME where the Democrats have proposed increasing taxes on Middle Income tax Payers?


Democrats have proposed taking away the Bush tax cuts, some like Hillary says it's for the greater *socialist* good.  Removing the tax cuts that I (middle income class) received would mean a tax increase on......and lets say this together......the middle income tax payers.

Col, your nonsense about taxes have been debunked 50 times over, but you still continue the cut and paste rhetoric of the democratic party.  It's really old.

Regardless, it's been show to you (as usual) countless times how increasing taxes on successful Americans will hurt other Americans, but you refuse to understand this basic concept.

Keep praising democrats and calling yourself a republican, I for one, can't stop laughing.


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I am relieved to see such intelligent debate occurring on this site.

"You're stupid!" "No, I'm not! You are!" "Nuh uh!" "Yuh huh!"
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The GOP lies when it says that democrats would increase taxes on the average person. The ONLY group they advocate increasing taxed for are the wealthy who can afford to pay a little more and are the people who are getting the majority of the Bush Tax Cuts!


Democrats said they would work with Bush if they won the House and the Senate. So far I have yet to see any "working together" situations between them. Nothing but trying to trump Bush from every corner for personal party gain. Neither Bush or the Democrats have been able to accomplish much because they are too busy trying to screw each other. So if you want to point fingers as to who's a liar, you may want to use all 10 fingers in your hands and point at both parties.
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Senator Edwards was the most specific-- He would increase taxes on people making ABOVE $200,000 per year to help balance the budget.


Hey little Gene,
Have not read any new drivel from you lately, glad to see you are still alive! I also see you have been drinking from the fountain of stupid again. I know you say you are a high school graduate and that you were a colonel in the U. S. Army and that you went to war college, it is a pity that all of that schooling has gone to waste. Try looking up history in the news. The last time what Mr. Edwards idea was used the Democrat Congress came up with the alternative minimum tax. This was to punish the filthy rich that were not paying their fair share of taxes. Anyone that made more than 100,000 a year was double taxed. No one could complain about it because it was a tax on the rich but years later because of the stupid tax cuts from Mr. Reagan and Mr. Bush the middle class is paying the AMT. Now Mr. Edwards wants to do it again because making new laws that won't work looks better than fixing the old laws that did not work. Why not raise the AMT to 200k instead of making a third tax that people will have to pay? In short your great idea is a rehash of a failed idea of the liberals that seem to hate people making money or being a success.
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Here's something to chew on.

So according to you the rich people are the ones in control of the country right now. According to reports the rich people pay most of the taxes while poor people get to keep every penny they make, I should know cause I get all my money back every year plus some extra money the Gov't gives.

It has been proven that when a company is forced to pay more for things like materials, taxes or wages, they always find ways to make up for that money they will be losing. Usually they pass the cost down to the consumer. Just look at the gas prices. If we raise taxes on the rich, more than what they already pay, where do you think they will pass on this cost too?

You may think you are doing this country a favor by making those who earn more pay more but in reality the cost will be passed on to the consumers who spend their money on the products rich people sell, mainly the middle and lower class. So while we may not pay these taxes we will pay higher prices to pay for the higher tax rates given to rich people. And in the end a Gov't who badly spends money will not just change overnight and start spending wisely. You're fooling yourself if you believe this.
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I am relieved to see such intelligent debate occurring on this site.

"You're stupid!" "No, I'm not! You are!" "Nuh uh!" "Yuh huh!"


Hey, you were smart enough to notice it didn't you? Of course you didn't comment at all on the article itself so you must be the smartest guy on the site.
Reply #25 Top
you have to forgive the col. he was a military officer

you know one of those who did exactly what he was told no matter what

so now he is a civilian democrat and the party is saying we have to raise taxes on the rich

so that is what he is pushing for

i know he said he owned some businesses once and by what i have read on here from him. we all know why he still doesn't have them anymore. his costs kept going up and he refused to raise his prices to stay in business.