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Comparing Suicide Bombers from WW2 and today

Comparing Suicide Bombers from WW2 and today

We won once and can do it again

There was a religious angle to the ‘divine wind’ Kamikaze pilots of WW2 Japan. The Emperor was descended from the Gods. Shinto religion as practiced within the military of the time, was a motive to the warrior culture.

That is why unconditional surrender was demanded of the Japanese. You have to  undeify any man who is supposed to be a God. If not, the people following him, will believe in their right to perform any deed, that serves the holy cause. As we know the Japanese believed that their Emperor was a living embodiment of GOD.

Muhammad is dead, but his holy path has not been disproved. His suicidal followers are rewarded with praise, and honor to their families. The living see this, and see the west recoil, and so they believe in the holiness of suicide.

It may take a great horror to shock such a culture into defeat.

Suicide attacks are actually a sign that they are losing or a sign that they cannot succeed with anything less.

It is a desperate tactic, and one that is incredibly wasteful of the ranks of the attackers. Remember, a suicide attacker CANNOT BE USED AGAIN, unlike a conventional military unit. In order for the side utilizing suicide bombers to be stopped, it will require a shock to their collective system, an event that changes everything as far as the attacker is concerned’; an event that drives home that the eventual “end game” is total annihilation.

The use of 2 atomic bombs in Japan was one such event. The Japanese were faced with genocide if they didn’t surrender. Just 2 weapons killed outright 150,000 people. It was “the handwriting on the wall” that drove home to the Japanese government emotionally what they already knew logically — that they were going to Lose  many more people if they didn’t surrender. Yes, there is a question that had the Allies not demanded unconditional surrender, the Japanese might have been willing to surrender earlier. But this would be the wrong assumption because “surrender” was absolute anathema to the Japanese warrior culture. Better death (seppuku), by their own hand, than surrender to an enemy.

Their brutal, murderous treatment of POWs (the Bataan Death march, the many prison camp, etc.), was a reflection on their belief that people who surrender are lower than the lowest animal, and no longer worthy of being treated decently.

It is going to take a similar event comparable to the Atomic bomb blasts” to end the suicide bombers in Gaza and the West Bank. To end the Islamic Fascists total war against western countries, the horror of this continuing war in Iraq, to stop Iran's acquisition of Nuclear weapons

know that this is a harsh concept to grasp — and a harsh one to even state. But we Know that the Muslims have already “groomed” the next generation of Western culture and Jew Haters, and they certainly do not have much else to negotiate with (as if they were interested in negotiating, that is).

The relentless attacks on the west and Israel by the suicide bombers, bolstered by their religious fanaticism, leaves us little room to maneuver, except to do something so horrendous in return they no longer want to continue to fight, but live in peace.

 

 

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Reply #51 Top
It may be tell by Media that nun was praying anf nick berg was looking for work. You or me not there to know any truth.
Reply #52 Top
I did't lose anything there. My post was clear which bothred you to say that
Let you know guys try to explore all aspect of any thing then we can able to know better. Every media took their nations side or go angianst thier opositions.
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Every media took their nations side or go angianst thier opositions.

Forget losing it, you have lost it.  That statement clearly indicates that you know nothing about the media, and that you will excuse the most brutal acts of savagery for these animals.  Plainly you have no facts, just an excuse machine.  But I doubt you even realize that in your deluded state.

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rget losing it, you have lost it. That statement clearly indicates that you know nothing about the media, and that you will excuse the most brutal acts of savagery for these animals. Plainly you have no facts, just an excuse machine. But I doubt you even realize that in your deluded state.

I told you fact short and clear without taking rounds here and there.
My statment giving you indication to think. But now i doubt you have somthing(mind) to think.
Reply #55 Top
I told you fact short and clear without taking rounds here and there.


Hey brainless! You have given NO FACTS. Just some sorry assed excuse for a bunch of savage murderers.
Reply #56 Top
Wow, what a prize this guy is. From religion of peace to "he deserved it" in minutes.
Reply #57 Top
You or me not there to know any truth


Yeah the nun was an NSA agent. The Jews just won't tell us right?
Reply #58 Top
The Video of Deniel you saw and believe on it that someone cutting his head?
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ThemerboyJanuary 9, 2007 12:47:50


If any Muslim come in to U.S army Qurters or any top secert army agency to spying anything there. Will it be treated by good food? It will be shoot out there.


the nun was in a christian church and nick brg was walking on a public highway. you are trying and losing in the excuse making department.
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(Citizen)greywarJanuary 9, 2007 14:03:20


Wow, what a prize this guy is. From religion of peace to "he deserved it" in minutes


typical. he or she was an infidel, they deserved to die.<{FOR THE TERMINALLY STUPID THIS IS CALLED SARCASM, IT IS A TOOL USED TO MAKE A FOOL OUT OF SOMEONE THAT IS MAKING STATEMENTS SO STUPID THAT THEY CANNOT BE REASONED WITH}
Reply #61 Top
The Video of Deniel you saw and believe on it that someone cutting his head?


him (i guess you mean dAniel) and others...gonna "enlighten us" now? lol gonna claim it was a fake? it wasn't. gonna claim all the other footage where terrorists show us their "power" by cowardly hacking a person's head off while they are bound and gagged? it wasn't. the terrorists are proud of their brutality against anyone who doesn't share their dream of an archaic feudal system where whatever they say is law and all who disagree are murdered.

go ahead and defend these brutal cowards...cowards who hide behind masks and veils while they slay innocent humans then run into the shadows and hide some more. America is by no means perfect, but according to the whole world, we're still the best place on earth to be...millions of immigrants every single year while the good people of the arab world continue to flee these nations that have become a welcome home to those brutal, radical, fascist cowards.
Reply #62 Top
He would love to have you believe it was all fake. I can't count the times I have had this conversation : "We are a religion of peace.. if only those dirty Jews would let us be that is... all the deaths you see were of Mossad agents."
Reply #63 Top
lol gonna claim it was a fake? it wasn't.


He would love to have you believe it was all fake.


You are expecting me to say that the video was fake. Unfortunalty that is not a fake video.
You admire that you believe on that video and video is teling that "he was a spy and deserve this punish" in the bottom of the video screen.
Reply #64 Top
typical. he or she was an infidel, they deserved to die.


After few relpies Modrateman syaing that "he or she was an infidel, they deserved to die" only few comments agianst his view deserve a death in his sense then what he deserve which is spying?
Compare.
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deserve a death in his sense then what he deserve which is spying?


Dude, he was being sarcastic. He wasn't agreeing with you that Daniel Pearl deserved it because he was an infidel.


chill out... have a ham sandwich...
Reply #66 Top
I am not saying that any infidel deserved to be die. I were quoting his line.
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I were quoting his line.


I know, becasue you thought we weren't taking him up on his agrument. He never said he thought infidels deserved to die... it is called sarcasm. Wiki for it.
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Reply By: Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007
The Video of Deniel you saw and believe on it that someone cutting his head?


him (i guess you mean dAniel) and others...gonna "enlighten us" now? lol gonna claim it was a fake? it wasn't. gonna claim all the other footage where terrorists show us their "power" by cowardly hacking a person's head off while they are bound and gagged? it wasn't. the terrorists are proud of their brutality against anyone who doesn't share their dream of an archaic feudal system where whatever they say is law and all who disagree are murdered.

go ahead and defend these brutal cowards...cowards who hide behind masks and veils while they slay innocent humans then run into the shadows and hide some more. America is by no means perfect, but according to the whole world, we're still the best place on earth to be...millions of immigrants every single year while the good people of the arab world continue to flee these nations that have become a welcome home to those brutal, radical, fascist cowards.

get im sean!! chew im up

Reply #69 Top
Who is "Baha'u'llah? Is that miss spelled by you.
Prophecy has beed completed no new religion or Prophet will Born.
Only Hazarat ESA (PBUH) will come again as muslim in the world without any new religion. Some call him as jesus.


So there you go, you've never heard of Baha'u'llah. (And I spelled it exactly right.) He was the prophet of the Bah'ai faith, and proclaimed that he was there to fulfill all previous prophecies, to unite all religions. Thus, if we follow your own line about the natural evolution of religion, the Bah'ai faith is the finished product. Islam was just another stepping stone on the path to the birth of Baha'u'llah.

Wiki Bah'ai too . . . might do you some good.
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Reply By: San ChoninoPosted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007
Who is "Baha'u'llah? Is that miss spelled by you.
Prophecy has beed completed no new religion or Prophet will Born.
Only Hazarat ESA (PBUH) will come again as muslim in the world without any new religion. Some call him as jesus.


So there you go, you've never heard of Baha'u'llah. (And I spelled it exactly right.) He was the prophet of the Bah'ai faith, and proclaimed that he was there to fulfill all previous prophecies, to unite all religions. Thus, if we follow your own line about the natural evolution of religion, the Bah'ai faith is the finished product. Islam was just another stepping stone on the path to the birth of Baha'u'llah.

I had no idea there was such a thing, now I must go educate myself. thank you.

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I had no idea there was such a thing, now I must go educate myself. thank you


It's a very interesting religion, and Baha'u'llah's writings are very interesting. Granted, you know I'm a Christian and don't necessarily believe in the Bah'ai faith, but when one uses the logic that Islam is the finished product . . . it isn't. Baha'u'llah grew up Muslim and then was "called as a prophet, the fulfillment of all prophecy". So . . . following the logic . . . Bah'ai is the finished product.
Reply #72 Top
get im sean!! chew im up


see MM,,,we are all americans,,,and we are on the same side.

for too long the adnministration and it's pundits have painted anyone who didn't believe that goin into Iraq was a great idea as "weak." on the whole, we're not.

what i see in Iraq and in this 'war on terror" is us getting outsmarted. outsmarted into spending hundreds of billions we don't have to fight an entirely different war than the war being fought against us. not to mention, i just have a belief that you can't "genocide" any group, no matter how evil they are, out of existence.

i know the way most people think is to 'smash" your enemy...it's only natural. but the most successful people and organizations in history (and more and more as we go on in time) for the most part didn't get there by brute force, but by outsmarting their opponent. i want us to outsmart the terrorists.

but so far, we haven't done that. we have been gettin played. we have been getting hustled like a naive tourist in a bazaar. and it's painful for me to watch.

but don't mistake that for any kind of weakness or sympathy for terrorism or those who support it.
Reply #73 Top
Wiki Bah'ai too . . . might do you some good.
It's on my list to do today. Thanks for the info on it.
Reply #74 Top
get im sean!! chew im up


see MM,,,we are all americans,,,and we are on the same side.

for too long the adnministration and it's pundits have painted anyone who didn't believe that goin into Iraq was a great idea as "weak." on the whole, we're not.

what i see in Iraq and in this 'war on terror" is us getting outsmarted. outsmarted into spending hundreds of billions we don't have to fight an entirely different war than the war being fought against us. not to mention, i just have a belief that you can't "genocide" any group, no matter how evil they are, out of existence.

i know the way most people think is to 'smash" your enemy...it's only natural. but the most successful people and organizations in history (and more and more as we go on in time) for the most part didn't get there by brute force, but by outsmarting their opponent. i want us to outsmart the terrorists.

but so far, we haven't done that. we have been gettin played. we have been getting hustled like a naive tourist in a bazaar. and it's painful for me to watch.

but don't mistake that for any kind of weakness or sympathy for terrorism or those who support it.


BTW to "all" interested parties.....If you didn't already know it SConn1 and Col Gene are the same person. Below is a quote from an exchage on klink's thread.


#97 by Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1
Wed, January 10, 2007 10:32 AM





Like usual you get backed into a corner with facts and figures, and then you cut and run.


no one has gone anywhere,,,just bored with you for now (and have sh*t to do besides go round with you in circles 24/7),,,have a nice day:) we'll talk again


This is from klink's thread on stem cell research.
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BTW to "all" interested parties.....If you didn't already know it SConn1 and Col Gene are the same person. Below is a quote from an exchage on klink's thread.


oh PuHleeeaaaSeeee.....

we are not,,,stop lying. it does no one any good.