So Much for Bi-Partisanship

Webb's response? FO! Well, he was not that ribald (how I don't know, his social skills are on the level of alley oop). But the intent was there.

Here's what Webb really said...according to your source article;

Webb answered that he really wanted to see his son brought back home, a source close to Webb reported.

FO???

And what does this incident really have to do with bi-partisanship? This is obviously personal to Webb, not political.

webb had nothin about which to be pissed off.  

sure, he went outta his way not to mention his son during the campaign.  

it ain't as if he's that grieving mother who--during one of those audiences bush grants some parents of troops killed in action in iraq--said something to the effect that her boy really did have a wonderful life ahead of him had he lived.  our commander-in-chief responded by asking how anyone could know something like that.  

Webb answered that he really wanted to see his son brought back home, a source close to Webb reported. FO???

And continued........Conveniently forgetting the rudeness of his response?

sure, he went outta his way not to mention his son during the campaign.

Bullshit.  He made his sons service a part of almost every campaign commercial (except the ones bashing Allen).

Bullshit. He made his sons service a part of almost every campaign commercial (except the ones bashing Allen).

please check out all 9 of webb's commercials here: Webb Ads

almost every one of em?

who's tryin to bullshit whom, doc?

And continued........Conveniently forgetting the rudeness of his response?

What are you talking about Dr.Guy? Your source doesn't continue to discuss Webb's response any further than what Davad said.

Bush was completely and totally out of line to ask about his son in "small talk" at this function. Being from the social elite, he should have been well aware of the mistake he was making (particularly when his own two charming daughters are making a spectacle of themselves in South America). Senator-elect Webb handled the situation (from everything I've read) as Miss Manners would have recommended.

As for the full transcript--here's what Wonkette is citing from the Washington Post:

Here’s the paper’s version of the exchange:
“How’s your boy?” Bush asked, referring to Webb’s son, a Marine serving in Iraq.

“I’d like to get them out of Iraq, Mr. President,” Webb responded, echoing a campaign theme.

“That’s not what I asked you,” Bush said. “How’s your boy?”

“That’s between me and my boy, Mr. President,” Webb said coldly, ending the conversation on the State Floor of the East Wing of the White House

Somebody call the Doctor a Waaaaaaaaambulance.

Poor Republican, all in the minority and suddenly wanting to be "bipartisan."

It smacks of utter bullshit. Which is par for the course for the good Doctor.

almost every one of em? who's tryin to bullshit whom, doc?

I said except for the ones slamming Allen.  What part of that did you not understand?  And please show me ANYWHERE on this site where he lists how many times each one ran?

Bullshit is right.  I know you must have seen a lot of them in your state last fall.

Bush was completely and totally out of line to ask about his son in "small talk" at this function. Being from the social elite, he should have been well aware of the mistake he was making

Mistake he was making?  Excuse me that etiquette and decorum were also a victim of the last election.  I was unaware of the democrats running on a platform to ban it.

The Exchange continued: Bush: That is not what I asked, I asked how was your son? Webb: That is between me and my boy.

Just because the link no longer lists the whole conversation does not in 2006 mean that it does not exist.  I would hope at least that the new majority, besides breaking campaign promises BEFORE taking power, did not implement new speak.

Mistake he was making? Excuse me that etiquette and decorum were also a victim of the last election. I was unaware of the democrats running on a platform to ban it.

In polite company you do not bring up topics of conversation that will cause a debate or make the other party feel ill at ease. Webb made an entirely appropriate response to an entirely inappropriate question.

And you've misunderstood my point. I'm not suggeting that the Dems are trying to ban etiquette and decorum. Rather, I'm saying that Senator-elect Webb would have gotten a gold star from Miss Manners and President Bush would have been politely scolded for his lack of manners.

And please show me ANYWHERE on this site where he lists how many times each one ran?

What? What does the number of times aired have to do with what Kingbee said?

You said he mentioned "his sons service a part of almost every campaign commercial (except the ones bashing Allen)." You didn't say "in the ads that ran most frequently." What does the length of time it aired have to do with your initial assertion and Kingbee's rebuttal?

Somebody call the Doctor a Waaaaaaaaambulance. Poor Republican, all in the minority and suddenly wanting to be "bipartisan." It smacks of utter bullshit. Which is par for the course for the good Doctor.

No, but a huffing burnt out ex-teacher who cant hold a job due to brain decay sure smacks of utter bullshit.  You do continue to amaze me.  On how childish and immature you can sink.

And I never said I "Wanted" anything.  Your Il Duces said that.  But I guess in your drug induced haze, you cant tell the difference.

In polite company you do not bring up topics of conversation that will cause a debate or make the other party feel ill at ease.

Asking about one's children is not cause for a debate. But I guess in new speak it is.  That is utter nonsense! Webb was and is way out of line.

What? What does the number of times aired have to do with what Kingbee said?

How many of the ads did you see/hear?  He may have 100 ads, but if 99 of them never ran or ran once, and the other one ran 1000 times, it makes a big difference now doesn't it?  For it is the quantity of the ads - not the diversity - that the voters saw/heard during the campaign.  So when I say almost every one, maybe I should new speak and say "almost everyone aired" since that is where 99.9% of the voters hear and see them.

How many of the ads did you see/hear?

I saw all the ads that Kingbee linked to during the campaign season.

Asking about one's children is not cause for a debate. But I guess in new speak it is. That is utter nonsense! Webb was and is way out of line.

Asking about a son (and, might I add referring to him as a "boy") while said son is defending our country in a very controversial war that the father does not support is cause for debate. Dr. Guy, please do not pretend that the President was unaware of the situation when he asked the Senator-elect the question.

The simple truth is, it would have taken nothing for Webb to politly respond, He is doing the best he can under such situation.

I notice the left refuses to even acknowledge, the exchange MIGHT be impolite.

Dr. Guy, please do not pretend that the President was unaware of the situation when he asked the Senator-elect the question.

My "BOY" is 21.  He is still my "Boy".  Asking about a child as a child is normal for parents.  Asking about a child in harms way is not out of line and in keeping with how Bush is.  Show me how it was out of character?  Show me where he has never done that before?  Is Webb ashamed of his sons service?  He must be if he was offended.  Why did he even show up if he was going to be rude?  Just to be rude?

No, fortunately for most of us, New Speak has not taken hold yet.  If you ask me how my boy is doing while he pickets this war, I am not going to take offense.  But then I am not looking for offense.  The only ones that could construe Bush's question as an offense is one who is looking for it.

The simple truth is, it would have taken nothing for Webb to politly respond, He is doing the best he can under such situation.

Politeness seems to still be lacking on the left, even in victory.

I notice the left refuses to even acknowledge, the exchange MIGHT be impolite.

I fully acknowledge that the exchange was impolite. I just happen to think that ther person lacking manners is not the person who you think is lacking manners!

Nice to see you back, MM!

(Citizen)shadesofgreyNovember 30, 2006 14:49:25

Nice to see you back, MM!

TY meg... hope all went well at turkeyday and here is a good thoughts from christmas, you are allowed to celebrate christmas yes? heh heh heh

you are allowed to celebrate christmas yes?

Why, but of course. Us godless liberals partake fully in the commericalized aspect of the holiday season -- we just ignore that bit about the Savior's birth!

(Citizen)shadesofgreyNovember 30, 2006 15:22:15

Why, but of course. Us godless liberals partake fully in the commericalized aspect of the holiday season -- we just ignore that bit about the Savior's birth!

thank you for taking the gentle ribbing in the spirit delivered.

thank you for taking the gentle ribbing in the spirit delivered.

Thank you both for restoring some of my faith in people. Now carry on.

I said except for the ones slamming Allen

why do i get the feeling you consider the set of all webb ads slamming allen to comprise all webb ads ever produced?


i have the utmost confidence those willing to invest a few minutes checking out all 9 of webb's ads will easily be able to determine for themselves whether webb did or didn't (as you claim) make "his sons service a part of almost every campaign commercial."

mildly entertaining as it may be witnessing yet another of your futile attempts to bridge the ever-widening gap between that which you'd prefer to be and that which actually is, i'm not sufficiently motivated to contact webb's campaign for a full tally of what aired when and to whom.

thank you for taking the gentle ribbing in the spirit delivered.

gentle ribbing? gentile ribbing? both?