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The Deadliest SIN.

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The Deadliest SIN.

from JoeUser Forums

First off this is not some kind of fact, it is strictly my OPINION.

So there will not be links to anything to back up what I am about to set forth.

Minorities are being set up and all human pride is being sucked out of them, some examples are, The left does not feel as though minorities can take care of themselves, while the right feels they can and will if opportunity is provided.

The left keeps saying over the years, minorities NEED an advantage over whites, such as the equal opportunity act. Some major schools give blacks points on there entrance simply for being black.

Some politicians {read the left} do not think most minorities can figure out how to vote for instance.

Some states offered free Identification cards to ANYONE that needed them, they even offered to come to the homes of anyone that could or would not get them themselves. These cards were to be used in voting, to show you were eligible to vote. Sounds fair right? No! screams the left it is racist and demeaning. Again the offer of being equal is rejected because these 'PEOPLE" need to be protected. Protected from whom? Racist that are out.. such as skin heads, the real nuts on the conservative right that espouse religion and hate Jews and minorities, The KKK, they are all marginalized and are Jokes.

Right now, Racism and discrimination is kept mostly alive by members of minorities feeding off their brothers and sisters. This is NOT to deny racism exist!!

Which is worse? to own another human being or to strip them of every shred of human pride and dignity they have?

I will leave this up to the reader to decide.

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
have you been paying attention to the tremendous RISE in tuition? affordable has become a thing of the past. Most get financial aid or grants, the lucky ones get scholarships.


You bet your ass...My cost of going to school for one year is around $36,000. Luckily I have some grants and scholarships to buffer that...so I'm only borrowing around $12,000 a year...still a kick in the ass, but it could be worse.

~Zoo
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top
The left keeps saying over the years, minorities NEED an advantage over whites, such as the equal opportunity act. Some major schools give blacks points on there entrance simply for being black.


no matter who's said what over the years, facts are facts. here's one for you.

following the passage of prop 209 which prohibits california's schools from "giving blacks points" for being black, the number of black incoming freshmen dropped 40%

you may or may not know about ucla's 2006 freshman class. here's a fairly good summary:


UCLA holds the dubious distinction of admitting the lowest number of California African-American freshmen in the entire UC system — just 210 of the campus’ 10,487 admitted California freshmen for 2006 (2%). Given that the yield rate for African-American students admitted to the campus has been around 50% in recent years (but is declining), we are looking at a freshman class for 2006 that will contain only about 100 African Americans out of 4,500 students.

While K-12 inequities are clearly an important part of the problem, California Proposition 209 and the admissions practices shaped by it are also pivotal. The number of African-American students admitted to UCLA’s freshman class has dropped 57% since affirmative action in admissions ended a decade ago.

ucla admissions


whatever the deadliest sin may be, i'm fairly sure it's not related to encouraging anyone to get an education.
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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
Given that the yield rate for African-American students admitted to the campus has been around 50% in recent years (but is declining),


Well, that's only right, kingbee, since blacks only comprise about 17% of the population. Why should they be 'given' 50% of admissions to anything?

I mean given literally, too, even if that result is achieved through subterfuge, like the dumbing down of tests and other entry requirements until such a result is achieved.

Far too many people have confused 'equal opportunity' with equal results. When we start fiddling with results, the opportunities are no longer equal at all, but skewed to ensure the equality of results.

My guess is that in order for UCLA to have bragging rights for GRADUATING a 17% figure for African Americans, they had to have an admission rate of 50%. There's nothing equal about this, and I'm glad they put a stop to the practice.

In my opinion, the problem starts with the low quality of PUBLIC education available to blacks raised in low income areas, we need school choice, we need to hold our educators accountable for their dismal results, and we need to abolish their leftist dominated unions that have brought so much misery to the very people who vote them into office on empty promises.

Of course, the left HAS to maintain a permanent underclass in America, who else would vote for them?
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top
kingbee:

Yes, admissions of minoritys fell at UCLA, but that doesn't tell the whole story.

By artificially increasing the number of minority admissions with the method of lowering the standards needed to meet the academic requirements for college, many of these sub par students are being set up to fail.

And while minority admissions fell dramatically at UCLA, they were up at other UC schools such as UC Riverside. Overall figures for UC schools show African-American admissions dropping 18% and Hispanic admissions droppng 7%.

The number that really shows effectiveness in any policy regarding admissions should be graduation rates which have dramatically increased for minorities since the affirmative action policies were dropped.

This article has more detail:

The Consequences of Colorblindness

While racial preferences do get some students accepted into schools they ordinarily wouldn't be academically qualified for, they handicap them in their ability to graduate. Without the set asides, students tend to gravitate to academic institutions they are better suited for and in which they have the greater chance of graduating and succeeding.
Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top

Lot of back and forth here now, with a thank you to whip, king, mike,and pictorius, since I have nothing further to add, I am just sitting enjoying the exchange.

 

tip of the hat to zoo, for proving a point on a personal level.