The Deadliest SIN.

from JoeUser Forums

First off this is not some kind of fact, it is strictly my OPINION.

So there will not be links to anything to back up what I am about to set forth.

Minorities are being set up and all human pride is being sucked out of them, some examples are, The left does not feel as though minorities can take care of themselves, while the right feels they can and will if opportunity is provided.

The left keeps saying over the years, minorities NEED an advantage over whites, such as the equal opportunity act. Some major schools give blacks points on there entrance simply for being black.

Some politicians {read the left} do not think most minorities can figure out how to vote for instance.

Some states offered free Identification cards to ANYONE that needed them, they even offered to come to the homes of anyone that could or would not get them themselves. These cards were to be used in voting, to show you were eligible to vote. Sounds fair right? No! screams the left it is racist and demeaning. Again the offer of being equal is rejected because these 'PEOPLE" need to be protected. Protected from whom? Racist that are out.. such as skin heads, the real nuts on the conservative right that espouse religion and hate Jews and minorities, The KKK, they are all marginalized and are Jokes.

Right now, Racism and discrimination is kept mostly alive by members of minorities feeding off their brothers and sisters. This is NOT to deny racism exist!!

Which is worse? to own another human being or to strip them of every shred of human pride and dignity they have?

I will leave this up to the reader to decide.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Which is worse? to own another human being or to strip them of every shred of human pride they have?


Cripes MM, this is almost like voting to me. How does on choose the lessor of two evils?

I feel that owning another human being does strip that other humans pride; maybe not all, but a great deal of it.

Losing ones pride is not the worst thing that can happen to a person. Some may argue, myself included, that its sometimes a good thing to lose ones pride. But all of ones pride?

It sounds like when you say pride, you mean stripping one of all dignity.

In any event, nobody should have that much control over another person whether it be by ownership, or by stripping a persons dignity, causing that person to be totally dependant on another.

I'm sorry, but I cannot accept either option. It's simply beyond my capacity as a human being.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yep, those who profess to "protect" minorities do them far more harm in the long run than any scumbag KKK activities ever could.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
(Citizen)XytheOctober 27, 2006 12:18:38


Which is worse? to own another human being or to strip them of every shred of human pride they have?


Cripes MM, this is almost like voting to me. How does on choose the lessor of two evils?

I feel that owning another human being does strip that other humans pride; maybe not all, but a great deal of it.

Losing ones pride is not the worst thing that can happen to a person. Some may argue, myself included, that its sometimes a good thing to lose ones pride. But all of ones pride?

It sounds like when you say pride, you mean stripping one of all dignity.


dignity is a much better word, thank you.

My opinion is there is no real choice between the two they are both inherently evil
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
(Citizen)little-whipOctober 27, 2006 12:35:34Reply #


think it was anthony r who used to close his posts with the following: Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime, give a man a fish and you own the pathetic sob.

Liberals give away a lot of fish.


good saying, I believe the right wants to teach them to fish while the left wants them to have free fish, so they are forever indebted to them.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
MasonMOctober 27, 2006 12:40:53


Yep, those who profess to "protect" minorities do them far more harm in the long run than any scumbag KKK activities ever could.


so once again we are in agreement...... imagine that? heh
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think that the deadliest sins are murder and suicide.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
MartimusOctober 27, 2006 12:58:04


I think that the deadliest sins are murder and suicide.


nice but this is way off subject.. the subject is, to strip away all things that make a person self sufficient.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
That is the subject you have in the title. I read the article, and found it had nothing to do with deadly sins. The article seems a little off the deep end for me, so I wasn't going to comment on the contents since I don't want to insult you and I just am not in the mood to get into an argument right now.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: MartimusPosted: Friday, October 27, 2006
That is the subject you have in the title. I read the article, and found it had nothing to do with deadly sins. The article seems a little off the deep end for me, so I wasn't going to comment on the contents since I don't want to insult you and I just am not in the mood to get into an argument right now.

disagreement need not get into a arguement. we can disagree politely.

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hmm...we were talking about race in my anthropology class...biologically, race doesn't exist for humans. Race is only a cultural creation, which is a problem when people start forming hierarchies based on it...

Racism is too confusing and takes too much energy...I don't see the point...

~Zoo
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Which is worse? to own another human being or to strip them of every shred of human pride they have?


I dont have to equivocate. Stripping them of their dignity/pride.

Excellant article MM! I wish I had wrote it! You get an insightful.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
(Citizen)Zoologist03October 27, 2006 14:59:16


Hmm...we were talking about race in my anthropology class...biologically, race doesn't exist for humans. Race is only a cultural creation, which is a problem when people start forming hierarchies based on it...

Racism is too confusing and takes too much energy...I don't see the point...

~Zoo


as A JEW, I would much rather "see" the racist than have them slowly steal away my dignity by telling me I am too stupid to make my own way in life.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply #12
Which is worse? to own another human being or to strip them of every shred of human pride they have?


I dont have to equivocate. Stripping them of their dignity/pride.

Excellant article MM! I wish I had wrote it! You get an insightful.


thanx doc, been a while since I really thought out an article.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
good saying, I believe the right wants to teach them to fish while the left wants them to have free fish, so they are forever indebted to them.

"Learning to fish" could be a metaphor for education, and the left has done far more to provide the opportunity to get an education.

That being said, there is a lot of evidence that things like affirmative action and hiring quotas have created cultures with victim mentalities, and that has hurt minorities tremendously. Again, it's not just the left that is responsible, though. Many of those types of programs were created under the Nixon administration.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
"Learning to fish" could be a metaphor for education, and the left has done far more to provide the opportunity to get an education.


Provide results, not intentions, and prove your point.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

)Mike's Daily LogOctober 27, 2006 16:35:29


first welcome to my blog... thank you for taking the time to read and comment.



"Learning to fish" could be a metaphor for education, and the left has done far more to provide the opportunity to get an education.

nope learning to fish in THIS CASE is learning to do for yourself..;. the right has been saying make your own life better for years, the left says here let us make your life better... huge difference.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
(Citizen)little-whipOctober 27, 2006 17:58:16


Learning to fish" could be a metaphor for education, and the left has done far more to provide the opportunity to get an education.


You've got to be kidding, right? 'The left' has been in charge of education via all powerful unions for decades now, and our educational system is abhorrent, lagging far behind those of our western counterparts in the world.


not just behind... way behind.

It is because of the unwillingnes to fail students that deserve failure.. we reward failure now with passing grades for morons who cannot even read at a fifth grade level.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
It is because of the unwillingnes to fail students that deserve failure.. we reward failure now with passing grades for morons who cannot even read at a fifth grade level.

Agreed, the left holds a lot of responsibility for the "dumbing down" of our schools, especially back in the rampant political correctness of the 80s and early 90s. Remember "ebonics?" That was a low point in our educational system. Actually, that was late 90s. My point was, democrats push for more funding of state colleges and universities as well as financial aid. One of the problems with that has been, they tie it to race. A wealthy black student can get more financial aid than a poor white student.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
as A JEW, I would much rather "see" the racist than have them slowly steal away my dignity by telling me I am too stupid to make my own way in life.


I don't blame you for that...I just wonder where racists get all their energy to be racist. Doesn't make sense to me...never did.

~Zoo
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top

A wealthy black student can get more financial aid than a poor white student.
Reply By: Mike's Daily LogPosted: Friday, October 27, 2006

 

and this is fair on what planet? I am agreeing witrh you BTW... this unfair practice which in many cases takes away from good students is ALSO a democrat gift. {sarcasm}

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
and this is fair on what planet? I am agreeing witrh you BTW... this unfair practice which in many cases takes away from good students is ALSO a democrat gift. {sarcasm}


Yeah, you're right. It's not fair. And it does more harm than good because it promotes the “victim” mentality among minorities. Still, there is typically more financial aid available to everyone due to democratic legislation and also more funding for state universities, which keeps tuition affordable.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's called Paternalism .. as in "I'm your Daddy and I know what's best for you".
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
)Mike's Daily Log October 28, 2006 00:31:13


and this is fair on what planet? I am agreeing with you BTW... this unfair practice which in many cases takes away from good students is ALSO a democrat gift. {sarcasm}


Yeah, you're right. It's not fair. And it does more harm than good because it promotes the “victim” mentality among minorities. Still, there is typically more financial aid available to everyone due to democratic legislation and also more funding for state universities, which keeps tuition affordable.


have you been paying attention to the tremendous RISE in tuition? affordable has become a thing of the past. Most get financial aid or grants, the lucky ones get scholarships. While I agree that the left does a little more for students, I think it is for the wrong reasons.

wow a exchange with differing views and not one attack or cus word. thank you mike.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply #24
It's called Paternalism .. as in "I'm your Daddy and I know what's best for you".


I know that's the attitude of the left, the "WE" know best, I have never heard it put that way.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
have you been paying attention to the tremendous RISE in tuition? affordable has become a thing of the past. Most get financial aid or grants, the lucky ones get scholarships. While I agree that the left does a little more for students, I think it is for the wrong reasons.

There has been a tremendous rise in tuition because state funding has not kept up with costs. Tuitions at state universities here in Colorado are now about the same as some of the private universities, thanks to right wing initiatives such as the Taxpayer's Bill of Rights (TABOR) and a republican governor. Now, I agree with some of the provisions in TABOR, but the fact is, it has caused tuition rates to skyrocket. Bill Ritter, democratic candidate for governor, is running on a platform to make state universities more affordable. The republican candidate hasn't said a word about it.

If you think about it, government investment in education is a great investment. People with college degrees earn far more than those without, thus they pay more in taxes, and the government get a big return on its investment.

wow a exchange with differing views and not one attack or cus word. thank you mike.

I know. I must be getting old!