It Is OK to have KILLED U. S. Troops in Iraq!




I found it hard to believe what the Washington Post article said this morning which is that the Prime Minister of Iraq, Nouri al-Maliki was to announce a limited amnesty plan to help placate the Sunni Arab insurgency by granting them a PARDON so long as their only crime was ATTACKING U.S.TROOPS!

This is the new Iraqi Government Bush enabled to be created with the blood of our brave military and hundreds of Billions of dollars. This new government that is to make us more secure is considering granting PARDONS to Iraqi's that ONLY attacked and killed American Troops. If they attacked and killed Iraqi's, they are to be punished but not if their only crime was KILLING Americans.

This is the government that George W. Bush congratulated this week on his stealth trip to Baghdad. There is NOTHING that shows how wrong our policy is in Iraq then this plan to condone the killing of the infidels! All Americans must watch to see if this comes about and if is does we should leave Iraq ASAP!
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Apparently killing American troops is the Iraqi patriotic thing to do!
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Eh? Umm, could you provide a link to the article. Please.

~L
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The USA has a history of creating governments which it ultimately abandons. The South American Continent, Central American and South East Asia have all been victims of the pushes and pulls of domestic policy. The US has not yet learnt the lesson so well taught to the Romans by Livy: you cannot be both an empire and a republic(that was the old word for what we could call democracy)/

In Iraq the USA will not find any support. Even this quisling government will not stand up for the USA. In fact Bush underscored the staus of Iraq as a client stant when he landed in Baghdad Airport wihout even an invite from his quisling, al-Malaki.
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The USA has a history of creating governments which it ultimately abandons. The South American Continent, Central American and South East Asia have all been victims of the pushes and pulls of domestic policy. The US has not yet learnt the lesson so well taught to the Romans by Livy: you cannot be both an empire and a republic(that was the old word for what we could call democracy)/

In Iraq the USA will not find any support. Even this quisling government will not stand up for the USA. In fact Bush underscored the staus of Iraq as a client stant when he landed in Baghdad Airport wihout even an invite from his quisling, al-Malaki.
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The source was the Washington Post for the article I read. However all the news channels carried the story including CNN.
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This is another story about this unbelievable plan:

WASHINGTON, June 15 (UPI) -- A row is brewing after the new Iraqi government suggested that insurgents who had attacked U.S. troops might get amnesty as part of a reconciliation plan.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told reporters in Iraq Wednesday that he was developing a reconciliation plan that could include an amnesty for those "who weren't involved in the shedding of Iraqi blood."

National reconciliation between the minority Sunni Muslims -- who effectively ruled the country under Saddam Hussein and make up the bulk of the insurgents -- and their majority Shiite neighbors is seen by many as essential if the country is to survive.

But Democrats moved quickly Thursday to condemn the idea, and although administration officials cautioned that the plan was not finalized, it seems that such an amnesty would be a tough sell with the American public.

"It is shocking that (Maliki) is reportedly considering granting amnesty to insurgents who have killed U.S. troops," said Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada in a statement, "The mere idea that this proposal may go forward is an insult to the brave men and women who have died in the name of Iraqi freedom."

If Bush does not decry such a plan he is a TRATOR to our military !!!!!
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since they haven't jumped all over you about this, i guess your fan club (island dog, drmiler, etc.) must agree.
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Kingbee

That is what I have concluded. I will be VERY interested to see how Bush deals with this plan. My gut feeling is he will attempt to ignore it because for him to condone it would be political suicide. If he is silent they we will know he believes to is an acceptable policy by Iraq and as such would by a disloyal American! The ONLY thing he could do that would be acceptable is CONDEM it in the strongest possible terms but that would create problems with the NEW government he helped create. Sounds like a Lose-Lose for Bush!!!!!
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Congratulate yourself all you want - you're just being ignored. al-Maliki has multiple constituencies to which he must speak and I have a sneaking suspicion that your characterization of this "plan" is way off base. Nothing new there.
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Daiwa

We will see. That was the story as reported by multiple sources. I posted the UPI story and read the Washington Post story as well as the reports on CNN. It is interesting that when you Bushies have no comeback you do not agree but ignore the truth. JUST LIKE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We will see. That was the story as reported by multiple sources. I posted the UPI story and read the Washington Post story as well as the reports on CNN. It is interesting that when you Bushies have no comeback you do not agree but ignore the truth. JUST LIKE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just as you have no comeback in the countless articles posted by Shadowar about SUCCESS in Iraq?
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So it's heads you win, tails we lose, Col?
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The success in Iraq ???????


More attacks then ever
2,500 American Casualties
Less Electric and water then before the war in many locations
Some areas have 50% unemployment
There is NO security outside the Green Zone
The oil Revenue has not materialized
Most of OUR $20 Billion to rebuild the infrastructure in Iraq was wasted
There is no indication when they can take over protecting their country WITHOUT our
our Military.

Those are GREAT things happening in Iraq.
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#14 by Daiwa
Mon, June 19, 2006 7:13 PM


yer pissin in the wind trying to keep your shoes dry, trying to reason with this bonafide lunatic!
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Those are GREAT things happening in Iraq.


It's obvious col you read nothing but the msm headlines. I bet you never take the time to see the progress that has and continues to be made. What a sad life.
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Without security Iraq can not move forward. The only area that is secure is the Green Zone. People can not safely walking the street in many areas in Iraq. You may call that progress I DO NOT!

The subject of this Blog is the proposed amnesty plan that says if the Iraqi's attacked Americans they could be pardoned but if they attacked an Iraqi they will be punished. If such a plan is instituted, Bush had better condemn that action and get the Hell out. What would that say to our military that have risked and in too many cases gave their lives if the new government Bush is touting were to establish such an amnesty program?
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Without security Iraq can not move forward. The only area that is secure is the Green Zone. People can not safely walking the street in many areas in Iraq. You may call that progress I DO NOT!


This is where you are completely wrong. If you would read the progress and good news from Iraq you would know a great part of Iraq is secure. The media only focuses on the bad areas, the democrats only focus on the bad areas, and they both ignore the areas that are secure.
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Today there we a new series of insurgent attacks. Most of the major population areas, even some in the south that were more calm, are experiencing attacks. There are vast areas in Iraq where there is no violence but the major cities where the population live ARE NOT SECURE. The electric and water availability in many areas is BELOW pre war levels. The rebuilding in Iraq is a MAJOR failure. The conditions again in the major population centers are not getting better and 40-50% of the people have no work. Keep making believe the situation is getting better. CNN has been interviewing average people in the major cities in Iraq and the people confirm it is not safe to walk the streets in many areas!
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I see you ignored the post that shows the opposite of what you are saying.


CNN has been interviewing average people in the major cities in Iraq and the people confirm it is not safe to walk the streets in many areas!


Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm sure CNN is doing it's best to find people like. I can't stop laughing.
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What about these stories:

Violence hits Iraq despite security plan

Saturday 17 June 2006, 10:42 Makka Time, 7:42 GMT

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A bomber has killed at least 10 people and wounded 21 in one of Baghdad's largest mosques, despite a security crackdown putting large numbers of Iraqi and US troops on the streets.

on Firiday, the bomber attacked the Baratha mosque barely an hour before Friday's prayers, a security source said on Friday.

The mosque, which is used by members of Iraq's Shia, had been fired at several times since the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq.



On April 7, a triple bombing hit worshippers just as they were leaving the mosque, killing 90 and wounding 175.

Also, a mortar barrage struck a commercial area north of Baghdad on Friday, killing at least two people and wounding 16, police Lieutenant Muhammad Khayun said.

The attack occurred at 1:30pm on a street with many shops in the northern suburb of Saba Abkar, near the Taji air base.


Cheney Says U.S. Underestimated Iraq Insurgency (Update1)

June 19 (Bloomberg) -- Vice President Dick Cheney said that while the administration underestimated the strength of anti- American violence in Iraq, he still believes the insurgency is in its ``last throes,'' as he asserted last year.

``I don't think anybody anticipated the level of violence we encountered,'' Cheney said in a question-and-answer session following a speech today at the National Press Club in Washington.



Fresh violence hits Iraq cities
Scene from the Karbala blast
Sunni insurgents are usually accused of attacking Shia sites
A number of car bomb attacks have killed at least 24 people in Iraq's holy city of Karbala and Baghdad.

A bomb near the provincial government in Karbala killed at least 15 people. In Baghdad, two bombs killed at least nine people, mostly soldiers.

Baghdad police also said they had found the bullet-riddled bodies of 43 men killed in apparent sectarian attacks.

It comes as Prime Minister-designate Nouri Maliki continues efforts to form a cabinet, months after elections.

Rush hour attack

In Baghdad, the first explosion at 0900 (0500 GMT) targeted an army patrol in the city's Adhamiya district. At least 15 people were injured, including civilians.

A second blast - apparently aimed at a police patrol - followed immediately afterwards, killing one civilian and wounding five.

The Karbala device went off at about 0915 (0515 GMT) as employees returned to work after the weekend.

Police at first said the bomb had killed 21 people and injured more than 50, but hospital reports later put the casualty figures at least 15.

Karbala, about 80km (50 miles) south of Baghdad, is home to two of the most important shrines for Shia Muslims and has been often targeted by insurgents.

The BBC's Andrew North, in Baghdad, says certain groups within the Sunni-led insurgency are widely thought to be running a deliberate campaign of attacking Shia religious sites.

It is feared the Karbala attack is aimed at provoking further communal violence between Iraq's Shia and its minority Sunni Arab community, says our correspondent.

Most of the bodies found recently are suspected to have been murdered in the spate of violence that began after a major Shia shrine in Samarra was bombed in February.

All the bodies discovered in the past 24 hours belonged to men who were "handcuffed and shot in the head" , according to an interior ministry official quoted by AFP news agency.

Twenty-eight were found in Baghdad's western Kharkh area, while another 15 were recovered from the eastern Rusafa district, the unnamed official told AFP.

Elsewhere, an Italian soldier has died from his injuries gained in a blast last month in the southern city of Nasiriya, bringing to five the number of foreign soldiers killed in the 27 April attack.
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Anyone the believes Iraq is safe is a NUT CASE!!!!!!!!!
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What about these stories:


What about the stories of progress and success?


Anyone the believes Iraq is safe is a NUT CASE!!!!!!!!!


Is New Orleans safe?
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Acknowledging that anything good is happening in Iraq would undermine Gene's agenda and weaken his arguments, so he simply ignores such news. Which is OK, because it makes it that much easier for the reader to identify him as the demagogue he is. As long as he keeps it up, rombios & Bahu will continue to be the only people who take him seriously.

And the media haven't suddenly bought in to supporting this war just because Zarqawi got taken out. Their fundamental distrust of and disdain for America, especially during a conservative administration, is just too ingrained. Same with Gene. He's incapable of seeing anything that doesn't fit his view.
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Anyone that would compare the situation in New Orleans with many areas in Iraq shows their lack of understanding. Iraq EVERYDAY is worse then New Orleans was just after Katrina. Without security and an end to the daily sectarian violence progress in Iraq is just an elusion!

We have spent over $20 Billion to rebuild Iraq and in many areas there are fewer hours per day of electric then before the war. People with the second largest oil reserves do not have enough fuel for their use and the so called cash cow that was to pay for the rebuilding of Iraq is not happening. The reports about the reconstruction have shown that in some areas as much as 85% of OUR MONEY can not be accounted for and there was so much FRAUD that the projects themselves were not completed. We could have rebuilt most of the levies in New Orleans with $20 Billion that Bush BLEW it in Iraq on reconstruction. In addition the most recent estimates of the total cost of the Iraq War will be ONE TRILLION DOLLARS. To have spend, I mean BORROWED, that amount of money to get what is taking place in Iraq is a crime against the Tax payers of this country. I suggest a SUR TAX on those that support Bush and this war to pay that ONE TRILLION DOLLARS back and lower the National Debt!